Sick Boy
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How is his bid any different to the others? Do you believe he genuinely cares about the club and the fans? He also did all the photos and everything else with the other clubs he was looking at investing in.
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How is his bid any different to the others? Do you believe he genuinely cares about the club and the fans? He also did all the photos and everything else with the other clubs he was looking at investing in.
Copy of the e-mail i've just sent to SL following his chat on here this morning:
Hi Stuart
Following on from the online chat you had with us on SBT this morning, the next time Tim Fisher is on your show, if i'm not available to speak on air, I would like you to ask him the following on my behalf:
Mr Fisher has stated in numerous interviews both on CWR and in the CET that the trading of the football club has been (for some years) in Holdings, not CCFC Limited (in administration).
In the 31.05.2011 accounts, signed by Mr Fisher, and submitted to Companies House, the principal activity of Limited (company reg: 03056875) is listed as "professional football club". The principal activity of Holdings (company reg: 00094305) is listed as "holding compnay whose subsidiary is engaged in playing activities of a professional football club". This clearly shows that the football club is in Limited and not Holdings. The annual return submitted by the Football League in June 2012 also declares that the "golden share" is in Limited and not Holdings. This is a fact confirmed by the Football League and the administrator recently.
The turnover of Ltd (in admin) in the 31.05.2011 accounts is declared at £10.2m and employees remuneration (wages) at £10.3m. How is this possible for a company that he states is non-trading and has no player contracts in it and no assets or liabilities? The administrators report also shows that the management accounts to 31.05.12 has a turnover of £9m.
If the players wages and tax deductions have been declared in Ltd, but the contracts are all in Holdings, does this mean that all of the submissions to HMRC are incorrect and will need to be re-sumbitted? Likewise does the same apply for turnover and which company has declared it on submitted VAT returns?
I am also providing a link to the article (not written by myself I must point out) that was being discussed on the thread started by you this morning on SBT for you to read in your own time:
http://aprisonofmeasuredtime.wordpress.com/2013/06/01/its-timmy-time/
Many thanks in advance
Jason (jas365)
Hi Stuart
Following on from the online chat you had with us on SBT this morning, the next time Tim Fisher is on your show, if i'm not available to speak on air, I would like you to ask him the following on my behalf:
Mr Fisher has stated in numerous interviews both on CWR and in the CET that the trading of the football club has been (for some years) in Holdings, not CCFC Limited (in administration).
In the 31.05.2011 accounts, signed by Mr Fisher, and submitted to Companies House, the principal activity of Limited (company reg: 03056875) is listed as "professional football club". The principal activity of Holdings (company reg: 00094305) is listed as "holding compnay whose subsidiary is engaged in playing activities of a professional football club". This clearly shows that the football club is in Limited and not Holdings. The annual return submitted by the Football League in June 2012 also declares that the "golden share" is in Limited and not Holdings. This is a fact confirmed by the Football League and the administrator recently.
The turnover of Ltd (in admin) in the 31.05.2011 accounts is declared at £10.2m and employees remuneration (wages) at £10.3m. How is this possible for a company that he states is non-trading and has no player contracts in it and no assets or liabilities? The administrators report also shows that the management accounts to 31.05.12 has a turnover of £9m.
If the players wages and tax deductions have been declared in Ltd, but the contracts are all in Holdings, does this mean that all of the submissions to HMRC are incorrect and will need to be re-sumbitted? Likewise does the same apply for turnover and which company has declared it on submitted VAT returns?
I am also providing a link to the article (not written by myself I must point out) that was being discussed on the thread started by you this morning on SBT for you to read in your own time:
http://aprisonofmeasuredtime.wordpress.com/2013/06/01/its-timmy-time/
Many thanks in advance
Jason (jas365)
Samo
Well-Known Member
I agree, it's just a matter of price. If the admin recomends a new owner and the FL give the share to that owner, SISU will be gone very shortly after with an 'undisclosed' amount in the pocket. They will not want to go to court and I'm sure thier legal team will be telling them it would be very risky.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Correct. He cared a lot about Leeds at the time. Great pictures of him and bates if you google them.
Samo
Well-Known Member
We are all aware that any new owner would be in for business reasons, we'd just prefer competant owners. Wouldn't you? What is your point?
Sick Boy
Well-Known Member
Of course everyone wants owners who will make the football club a success. Why do you assume that he would be competent? Is it because our mate Joe is trying to get him in?
SkyBlue_Bear83
Well-Known Member
Notice how Psgm and Linnel are never available at the same time, they are clearly the same person
trondegilsoltvedt97
Active Member
It does not appear to be invite only- see here http://www.ccfc.co.uk/news/article/fans-forums-2013-836931.aspx
Samo
Well-Known Member
We don't know and with any new owner you never really can. But we do know that those we currently have are. I Still don't see the point in your agrument. It appears to be: New owners might be shit so let's stick with our shit owners.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
It is responding to a comment that Haskell caress about the club and the fans. He doesn't not that this is a big issue. No one here though can really make a judgement as to the best bid.
Sick Boy
Well-Known Member
It is more of a case of trying not to repeat mistakes of the past.
I would welcome a takeover of the club by someone who has no previous connections to the club. Why would you blindly back a takeover instrumented by someone who played a major part in bringing sisu into the club?
Samo
Well-Known Member
Fair enough. I agree, of course the doesnt care. And we don't really care about him or any new owner. Only that they are successful.
Samo
Well-Known Member
When did I state that I do back it? Bottom line is... I would welcome any new owner, I may prefer some bids over others but would rather any than what we have. I realise of course that it's a roll of the dice but when you're out of options you roll the dice!
Flying Fokker
Well-Known Member
Funny if it was. Forum ventriloquism.
Sick Boy
Well-Known Member
It wasn't directed at you, but in general.
This sounds all a bit too familiar to last time we were in this situation. Personally I would rather us have a fresh start and have people involved who have no previous connections to the club.
Flying Fokker
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Dude, follow the other threads. We've already done this but no response from the club. They appear to be back tracking.
DazzleTommyDazzle
Well-Known Member
Personally, I'd prefer us to be taken over by a billionaire who named his children after the '87 team and has a statue of Jimmy Hill in his back garden.
However, if it were to be a choice between SISU and someone that JE was involved with, I'd be happy to drive all the departing SISU folk to an airport of their choice - as long as no return tickets were involved.
Voice_of_Reason
Well-Known Member
If anyone wants to send this link to Company House the email address is:
[email protected] ask them to pass it on ! (I haven't sent it, sent enough emails and letters to date - let someone else have a go. Whose up for sending it ?)
DazzleTommyDazzle
Well-Known Member
Does anyone have a link to a media report of TF admitting that the accounts are incorrect?
SkyBlueBlood
Member
So do you accept that the £2.6million per annum management fee that SISU are claiming to be owed to them should be paid based on what they have delivered for the football club since taking over? Just thinking of the relegation due to dismantling of the squad, deliberate non-payment of rent to force us out of the Ricoh and their unsupported plan to take CCFC out of Coventry and the constant turnaround of Managers.
brinner
New Member
if they had paid all their bills we wouldnt be in administration!
brinner
New Member
done!!!!
Skyblueloyal
Active Member
He does yes will be right back after the travel news.
Voice_of_Reason
Well-Known Member
done!!!!
Nice one Brinner -- like you, I haven't been sitting on my backside doing nothing - I've been emailing Paul Appleton and the Football League for 2 weeks with loads of observations. Some might say it's a waste of time -- I would ask " how do they know?" Cheers bud.
SallyCinnamon
New Member
Hi Stuart
Have you heard a rumour that PHIV has signed a deal with the Higgs lot and it will be announced early this week?
Have you heard a rumour that PHIV has signed a deal with the Higgs lot and it will be announced early this week?
Presumably that's what you've heard then SC? Where did you hear that?
Bluegloucester
New Member
The silence says enough.
Nick
Administrator
Or maybe he just hasn't been online to reply
Sky Blues
Active Member
torchomatic
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It's amazing how many people can be so disrespectful to someone like SL who comes on here to answer questions as best as he can. He's like us, he doesn't know all the answers.
hill83
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It's easy to be like that sat in your pants typing on a pube covered keyboard.
I've no issue with getting abuse myself on here, as I'm not strictly posting as me, only a couple of people on here know who I am. But when someone comes on in good faith, as themselves, the abuse isn't needed.
dongonzalos
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I agree sometimes people get a thrill trying to get 'bites' from people and throwing in subtle abuse it is a bit sad really
torchomatic
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hill83
Well-Known Member
I do it myself occasionally, as I'm sure you know. We're all friends though really
