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wingy

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  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #596
Yeah
They did the right thing
Thinking of all those kids who died over in Ireland earlier this year.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #597
Otis said:
Furious social media response after Jay1's Godiva set axed

Some people really don't have a clue.

I see someone has suggested that they should have moved Jay 1 to the main stage.

Umm.... and do what exactly with the bands due to perform on the main stage? Cancel them instead? Laughable.

Seems so many people pushed in despite warnings and it was so many it actually broke the barriers at the front of the stage. They obviously couldn't continue.

Someone could have been seriously hurt and it could easily have resulted in multiple deaths. Surely they had to stop and cancel everything didn't they? The council could have been in real hot water if they allowed a vast over capacity and then there was a tragedy and fans were crushed.

Seems entirely the right thing to do to me.
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Any criticism aimed at the council should concentrate on why they failed to control the crowd in the first place but once they'd lost order you're right, they had to cancel.
 
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oscillatewildly

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #598
Otis said:
Furious social media response after Jay1's Godiva set axed

Some people really don't have a clue.

I see someone has suggested that they should have moved Jay 1 to the main stage.

Umm.... and do what exactly with the bands due to perform on the main stage? Cancel them instead? Laughable.

Seems so many people pushed in despite warnings and it was so many it actually broke the barriers at the front of the stage. They obviously couldn't continue.

Someone could have been seriously hurt and it could easily have resulted in multiple deaths. Surely they had to stop and cancel everything didn't they? The council could have been in real hot water if they allowed a vast over capacity and then there was a tragedy and fans were crushed.

Seems entirely the right thing to do to me.
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Yes, entirely agree, Otis. Haven't been up so far this weekend and have been occasionally following reports via SBT. My immediate opinion upon hearing this cancellation and subsequent closure of the tent for the remainder of the day was that it was an over reaction borne of incompetent stewarding.
If reports are correct about barriers collapsing and general aggressive entry tactics then cancellation was the only option.
 
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oscillatewildly

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #599
Otis said:
They would get slated either way wouldn't they. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

You allow it, serious repercussions, you don't, you get slated.

A tragedy waiting to happen.
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Is this a 'subliminal' message to the organising committee for next years Friday night main stage headline act?
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #600
oscillatewildly said:
Is this a 'subliminal' message to the organising committee for next years Friday night main stage headline act?
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I am not sure Repercussions are available, as they have only recently disbanded.
 
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oscillatewildly

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #601
Otis said:
I am not sure Repercussions are available, as they have only recently disbanded.
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I think 'The Slated' spontaneously combusted a couple of years back during their annual Pontins tour, too.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #602
oscillatewildly said:
Is this a 'subliminal' message to the organising committee for next years Friday night main stage headline act?
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They've had all the other punk veterans up there and with them touring quite prolifically it can only be a matter of time.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #603
It makes me laugh that in this Jay 1 Twitter rant he has said that Godiva owe him some serious 'bread.'

Ummmm.....there will be a fee surely. He performs he gets the fee. He doesn't appear due to a situation such as this, he surely still just gets his fee.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #604
Otis said:
It makes me laugh that in this Jay 1 Twitter rant he has said that Godiva owe him some serious 'bread.'

Ummmm.....there will be a fee surely. He performs he gets the fee. He doesn't appear due to a situation such as this, he surely still just gets his fee.
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He'll get paid anyway.
He will have to pay his staff.
If he hasn't got some cancellation clauses in his contract he needs a new tour manager.
 

Mild-Mannered Janitor

Kindest Bloke on CCFC / Maker of CCFC Dreams
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #605
clint van damme said:
He'll get paid anyway.
He will have to pay his staff.
If he hasn't got some cancellation clauses in his contract he needs a new tour manager.
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And more press coverage, profile and downloads as a result, it’s a win win for him
 
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Mild-Mannered Janitor

Kindest Bloke on CCFC / Maker of CCFC Dreams
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #606
Think it will be busy today for Busted
 
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oscillatewildly

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #607
Otis said:
It makes me laugh that in this Jay 1 Twitter rant he has said that Godiva owe him some serious 'bread.'

Ummmm.....there will be a fee surely. He performs he gets the fee. He doesn't appear due to a situation such as this, he surely still just gets his fee.
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I wonder how many 'bags' equates to 'serious bread'?
 

LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #608
Went Friday and all day yesterday. The Twang were class and as usual had a quality weekend.

Not sure how people’s expectations are so high for a festival that cost £2.

I had a cracking weekend, although feeling it now after being sat in Bennys at 3 this morning following grooving in Scholars.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #609
LastGarrison said:
Went Friday and all day yesterday. The Twang were class and as usual had a quality weekend.

Not sure how people’s expectations are so high for a festival that cost £2.

I had a cracking weekend, although feeling it now after being sat in Bennys at 3 this morning following grooving in Scholars.
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For the benegit of an old bastard, what the fuck is Bennys?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #610
clint van damme said:
For the benegit of an old bastard, what the fuck is Bennys?
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Chicken takeaway isn't it?
 

bringbackrattles

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #611
Feeder were good only band I stood and watched. But £5.50 for a pint of weak lager, what a rip off !
 
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LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #612
clint van damme said:
For the benegit of an old bastard, what the fuck is Bennys?
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A hovel.
 

LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #613
bringbackrattles said:
Feeder were good only band I stood and watched. But £5.50 for a pint of weak lager, what a rip off !
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The Fosters was awful. Drank Strongbow all weekend.

I now remember why I don’t drink cider.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #614
bringbackrattles said:
Feeder were good only band I stood and watched. But £5.50 for a pint of weak lager, what a rip off !
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Thought you might like Reef. Quite a bit of their stuff was heavy rock,though they did fluctuate between the blues and pop at times.
 

bringbackrattles

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #615
Otis said:
Thought you might like Reef. Quite a bit of their stuff was heavy rock,though they did fluctuate between the blues and pop at times.
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I got in about 8oclock so must have missed them. My mate was there for the whole day, impressed with his durability !
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #616
Otis said:
Furious social media response after Jay1's Godiva set axed

Some people really don't have a clue.

I see someone has suggested that they should have moved Jay 1 to the main stage.

Umm.... and do what exactly with the bands due to perform on the main stage? Cancel them instead? Laughable.

Seems so many people pushed in despite warnings and it was so many it actually broke the barriers at the front of the stage. They obviously couldn't continue.

Someone could have been seriously hurt and it could easily have resulted in multiple deaths. Surely they had to stop and cancel everything didn't they? The council could have been in real hot water if they allowed a vast over capacity and then there was a tragedy and fans were crushed.

Seems entirely the right thing to do to me.
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People are clueless and these days the media just help by giving them the oxygen of publicity. Jay1's fans seem to have decided he's bigger than Feeder, despite having released only 2 singles and never doing a headline tour, and therefore should have taken their slot.
Otis said:
It makes me laugh that in this Jay 1 Twitter rant he has said that Godiva owe him some serious 'bread.'
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He seems a grade A prick. How is your first thought not the safety of your fans?

Coming up with absolute rubbish on twitter. Claims he should never have been on that stage as 10,000 were coming to see him. In which case why did he take the booking, why did nobody on his side flag this up?

And more importantly if 10,000 want to see him in Coventry why is his hometown gig on his upcoming tour in a 900 capacity club and not at the Ricoh?
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #617
oscillatewildly said:
My immediate opinion upon hearing this cancellation and subsequent closure of the tent for the remainder of the day was that it was an over reaction borne of incompetent stewarding.
If reports are correct about barriers collapsing and general aggressive entry tactics then cancellation was the only option.
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You've got to take action when it reaches that point but equally it shouldn't have got to that point. Seems to have been very badly managed, surely before it got to the critical point there must have been some indication of an issue.

Plenty of festivals have acts in tents who, either because they're playing 'secret' sets or because they've had a surge in popularity between the booking and the event, have more people trying to get in than the capacity but at a properly managed event its not an issue. Something has gone seriously wrong here on the organisational side and hopefully will be properly addressed.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #618
It’s had it’s day and needs to charge a lot more and have real bands on an outside arena only. It just doesn’t work
 
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Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #619
Grendel said:
It’s had it’s day and needs to charge a lot more and have real bands on an outside arena only. It just doesn’t work
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Yep, been saying it for years. Charge a decent fee, get some decent acts instead of yesterday’s washed up people.
Pub in the park in Warwick yesterday also for £45 and acts including Razorlight (might not be everyone’s cup of tea). No riff raff and drunk idiots spoiling it, no hint of disorder or overcrowding and it was also sold out.
I know which I prefer.
 
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oscillatewildly

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #620
chiefdave said:
You've got to take action when it reaches that point but equally it shouldn't have got to that point. Seems to have been very badly managed, surely before it got to the critical point there must have been some indication of an issue.

Plenty of festivals have acts in tents who, either because they're playing 'secret' sets or because they've had a surge in popularity between the booking and the event, have more people trying to get in than the capacity but at a properly managed event its not an issue. Something has gone seriously wrong here on the organisational side and hopefully will be properly addressed.
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Agreed. 'Security' in so many differing environments is just not up to the task. Most of us has witnessed it at football stadia, I see it regularly at work - guys on the gate not knowing what they are checking for as concerns a relevant access pass, even to the point of waving through vehicles that don't have any!
I can't imagine these lads and lasses are paid a great deal so there will probably be a (lack of) motivational factor. But I just don't think training or even adequate briefing is in place so the problems exist higher up.
They do seem to hire a lot of zombies though for these events.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #621

This is how empty it was
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #622
Adge said:
Yep, been saying it for years. Charge a decent fee, get some decent acts instead of yesterday’s washed up people.
Pub in the park in Warwick yesterday also for £45 and acts including Razorlight (might not be everyone’s cup of tea). No riff raff and drunk idiots spoiling it, no hint of disorder or overcrowding and it was also sold out.
I know which I prefer.
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Aren't Razorlight a washed up act?
 

eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #623
Otis said:
Aren't Razorlight a washed up act?
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Yes and the libertines were the drying up support
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #624
Otis said:
Aren't Razorlight a washed up act?
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If they can command a £45 fee then no and that’s the point - this is the type of charge that’s required as otherwise the majority of attendees just want to get pissed up in a park for the day
 
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Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #625
Otis said:
Aren't Razorlight a washed up act?
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Maybe-it was sold out though.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #626
Grendel said:
If they can command a £45 fee then no and that’s the point - this is the type of charge that’s required as otherwise the majority of attendees just want to get pissed up in a park for the day
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It's more Tom Kerridge and the Michelin starred chefs that command the fee.

Not exactly packed either. All very middle class!
 
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ccfctommy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #627
Otis said:
Aren't Razorlight a washed up act?
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Yes.
 

ccfctommy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #628
I've just paid two pounds to see the Selecter and The Sugar hill Gang. What more can you want?
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #629
Fuck me that cleared me out. After the £4 on entry highlights included:

£3 for some chav to paint pva glue on my daughters cheek then throw glitter at it

£17.80 for an anaemic chicken burger, a tiny portion of cold fries and a bottle of water

£15 for three of us to go around the Ferris wheel three times

£3.50 on hook a duck to win a prize worth less than £1
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2019
  • #630
oscillatewildly said:
Agreed. 'Security' in so many differing environments is just not up to the task. Most of us has witnessed it at football stadia, I see it regularly at work - guys on the gate not knowing what they are checking for as concerns a relevant access pass, even to the point of waving through vehicles that don't have any!
I can't imagine these lads and lasses are paid a great deal so there will probably be a (lack of) motivational factor. But I just don't think training or even adequate briefing is in place so the problems exist higher up.
They do seem to hire a lot of zombies though for these events.
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Got a mate that used to do security for these sorts of events, football games, festivals, etc. He’s a barely functioning alcoholic without two brain cells to rub together and has been a regular for a decade. The way He tells it it’s a mix of underpaid foreigners with no English, reprobates like him and kids all employed by people lucky to be out of prison.
 
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