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Goal or no goal (2 Viewers)

  • Thread starter robbiekeane
  • Start date Mar 16, 2022
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Goal or no goal

  • Goal

    Votes: 105 76.1%
  • No goal

    Votes: 33 23.9%

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David O'Day

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  • Mar 16, 2022
  • #141
Liquid Gold said:
wow
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wow indeed
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2022
  • #142
shmmeee said:
Whole ball, middle of the white line.
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Then you'd need a tiny line to work out if it had actually crossed.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2022
  • #143
shmmeee said:
Whole ball, middle of the white line.
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Ah, I think that leaves it open to interpretation then though, where is the middle of the line.
Better off as it is.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2022
  • #144
What a time to be alive anyway. I'd rather it was a fucking goal.
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2022
  • #145
David O'Day said:
it hits their player and rolls back before they freeze frame it in that video
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If you look closely the defender heads it, it rolls along the line and then starts to go in slightly more. I think they have stopped it exactly when the ball is furthest over.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 16, 2022
  • #146
hill83 said:
Ah, I think that leaves it open to interpretation then though, where is the middle of the line.
Better off as it is.
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Halfway between the two edges? I mean if we have sub mm level accuracy tech anyway…

I voted no goal before these pics BTW, I’m just saying it’s never felt right to me. Same as high feet or shepherding the ball, just something that doesn’t sit right despite being the rules.
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2022
  • #147
David O'Day said:
it hits their player and rolls back before they freeze frame it in that video
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Fucking hell, Grendel is actually right about something, you’re properly mental.


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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2022
  • #148
Liquid Gold said:
If you look closely the defender heads it, it rolls along the line and then starts to go in slightly more. I think they have stopped it exactly when the ball is furthest over.
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Wow
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2022
  • #149
Liquid Gold said:
If you look closely the defender heads it, it rolls along the line and then starts to go in slightly more. I think they have stopped it exactly when the ball is furthest over.
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simply not true, video shows that
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2022
  • #150
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
Fucking hell, Grendel is actually right about something, you’re properly mental.


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I'm starting to believe the Grendel slander on being a boozer might be right too as you'd have to be seeing double with all this proof.

Dave, it's the ball on the left mate.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2022
  • #151
Right that's enough now.

Bye

I win.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2022
  • #152
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
Fucking hell, Grendel is actually right about something, you’re properly mental.


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everyone is right about you as well
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2022
  • #153
Liquid Gold said:
I'm starting to believe the Grendel slander on being a boozer might be right too as you'd have to be seeing double with all this proof.

Dave, it's the ball on the left mate.
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ok then
 

lifeskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2022
  • #154
Are my eyes deceiving me….when the still with ball occurs is a fraction after the point the ball bounces off defenders head. Still no goal (by a millimetre), fraction before over line


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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 16, 2022
  • #155
lifeskyblue said:
Are my eyes deceiving me….when the still with ball occurs is a fraction after the point the ball bounces off defenders head. Still no goal (by a millimetre), fraction before over line


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it is after it hits their player
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #156
lifeskyblue said:
Are my eyes deceiving me….when the still with ball occurs is a fraction after the point the ball bounces off defenders head. Still no goal (by a millimetre), fraction before over line


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Yes it is, it even moves further towards the goal after it hits their players head (which is when the still is taken), I assume because as it hits him he is sliding into the goal himself.
 
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skybluesam66

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #157
measuring the still
the line is 12cm wide maximum
we are talking about 1cm from a goal -

however it was much more of a goal than one which won England the world cup
 

Johhny Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #158
shmmeee said:
Then the paint would be wrong technically.

I think the whole ball whole line thing is a stupid rule but it is the rule.
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We have to have the ball over the line rule or every game would finish 90 - 90
 
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Johhny Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #159
David O'Day said:
the ball rolls backwards before they free it thanks i win
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Give it up. You’ve had your 15 minutes of fame
 

Johhny Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #160
shmmeee said:
Middle of the line for me. It’s not logical, just feels wrong to me.

Genuine question is that the rule for all lines? Is a foul a mm into the pen area like a pen?
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The line is part of the penalty area. Yes the rule includes all lines
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #161
rexo87 said:
Now do an angle from the side and you will see the top of the ball is level with the line. As much as we'd love it to be a goal it's not. There's literally technology for it

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That still is after the ball has come back towards the line after hitting his back.
It was more advanced than that in contact on his back.
 

robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #162
Yeh fair enough i was wrong I guess.

I am genuinely looking at this still below though thinking...that is a goal. If that was a throw in line people would be saying thats out for a throw. I think it would make more sense if it was whether the middle of the ball has crossed the edge of the line, no?

But anyway thats not the rule and i was wrong


 
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coop

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #163
Does it matter as we were dog shit.
 

robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #164
coop said:
Does it matter as we were dog shit.
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Well yeh it was worth discussion because how many times have we grabbed a late equaliser when we have momentum and the crowds and players smell blood and are mad for it. Turns out to be the right decision anyway but to say it wasn’t worth discussing is silly
 

Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #165
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hill83 said:
I know I'm clearly being out voted here, but my mind is blown.
Are you lot the same people that scream when the ball isn't in the correct place for a corner as well?

It's not where the ball touches the floor. And all the images posted the ball is in the air.

No goal.
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You are correct (although I voted it as a goal!) - loads of throw ins are given, when the ball hasn't gone out of play. Always does my head in (and players, I suspect) Even less excuse for them, as lino is literally looking along the line for them.
 

the rumpo kid

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #166
Why wasn't it shown on the big screen In the ground at the time? When they showed every other save or near miss in the game.

Why did the ref touch the devise on his wrist straight away ? Was it switched on ?

Why were to good penalty shouts waved away ? By the same ref who waved away to good penalty shouts for us when we played Cardiff .

Why did the linesman on the east side miss throws and goal kicks that were clearly out of play ?

Why was there only 4 minutes injury time when there were 6 subs (3 mins) plus 2 sit down injuries were the players went to the touch line plus the endless time wasting from hull even in the first half ?

I think the ref at least needs to be looked at by the EFL about competency.
 
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Travs

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #167
I must admit watching on tv i thought it was in... similar to O'Hares first goal on saturday, i did think it had clearly gone over the line.

Although its largely irrelevant.
 
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Lord_Nampil

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #168
What are rules for players keeping the ball in play but aren’t in play them
Selfs? As he’s in the goal when he stops the ball going in he actually is not in play…. Does any one know??
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #169

Why did they slow it down after it was coming back away from the goal?
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #170
Nick said:

Why did they slow it down after it was coming back away from the goal?
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The replay on TV is irrelevant. The technology was working and got it right. There's no real argument to be had. Shows how deceptive an angle can be as looked miles over on the live stream last night.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #171
mark82 said:
The replay on TV is irrelevant. The technology was working and got it right. There's no real argument to be had. Shows how deceptive an angle can be as looked miles over on the live stream last night.
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Isn't where they pause it and slow it down the same as what the goal system uses though?
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #172
rexo87 said:
Have you just chosen to ignore the camera angle above from quest that proves its not a goal?

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TheQuest still is too late in the incident. It’s a goal when it hits the back of the grounded player and bounces down, well over the line, before rolling back toward the goal line and being cleared as it approaches the line from inside th goal. The point at which Quest have made the assessment. So no, I haven’t ignored it, I have discounted it because they haven’t done it correctly.
 
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JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #173
Didn’t know from behind the goal last night. If the ref’s watch doesn’t buzz (and he was clearly repeatedly telling the players of both sides this) there’s no way he can give a goal.

Much more pivotal was the decision to not give a penalty for the blatant foul on Tavares - the ball had gone but he was cleaned out. If (and only if) we scored a penalty with 15 minutes to go we would have had significant momentum.

Apart from that the Ref did quite well, and Hull were excellent.
 
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CovBrummie94

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #174
We sit right in line with the goal and it split opinion between the 12 in my group. Personally I didn't think it had crossed the line at the time. The technology confirmed that.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2022
  • #175
JimmyHillsbeard said:
Didn’t know from behind the goal last night. If the ref’s watch doesn’t buzz (and he was clearly repeatedly telling the players of both sides this) there’s no way he can give a goal.

Much more pivotal was the decision to not give a penalty for the blatant foul on Tavares - the ball had gone but he was cleaned out. If (and only if) we scored a penalty with 15 minutes to go we would have had significant momentum.

Apart from that the Ref did quite well, and Hull were excellent.
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Yeah aside from the three blatant penalties he missed and his inability to get a handle on the excessive time wasting happening from the sixth minute the ref was fine. Kinda big asides though.
 
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