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Get a grip, this is a rebuilding season. (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Voice_of_Reason
  • Start date Nov 12, 2023
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Voice_of_Reason

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #36
Ashdown said:
Normally haven’t we built and progressed , this time round we’ve built and gone backwards. You would have thought by mid November the manager would at least know his best 11 and formation. It seems we have to wait for Saddlebrains every week to give us a clue as to what we are trying this time around.
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With Palmer, O'Hare and Tevares, Kelly out for months/ weeks, how can MR play his best 11 ?
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #37
Voice_of_Reason said:
With Palmer, O'Hare and Tevares, Kelly out for months/ weeks, how can MR play his best 11 ?
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Palmer Kelly aren’t in our best 11 and Tavares wouldn’t even make the bench
 
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Voice_of_Reason

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #38
Grendel said:
Palmer Kelly aren’t in our best 11 and Tavares wouldn’t even make the bench
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Name your best 11 then, Grendel in your opinion.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #39
Voice_of_Reason said:
Name your best 11 then, Grendel in your opinion.
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Why? it won’t include those 3 - we’ve upgraded the squad by £22million so you’d think an aging Kelly, palmer whose destined to be on the fringes are hardky vital and as for Tavares I mean seriously
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #40
Voice_of_Reason said:
Cast your mind back to the begining of last season's games when early on we lost 4 in a row and some were writing us off as rubbish and doomed.
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We had 20 points after 16 games and then won 3 in a row
 
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Voice_of_Reason

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #41
Grendel said:
Why? it won’t include those 3 - we’ve upgraded the squad by £22million so you’d think an aging Kelly, palmer whose destined to be on the fringes are hardky vital and as for Tavares I mean seriously
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So, which are the best 11 then. You can't say who you want to exclude and not say who you would. You are suggesting MR should by now, know his best 11 yet it wouldn't include those you have excluded.
The answer is, you don't know the best 11 in your opinion. Cheers, Grendel. Not arguing, just asking
 

TomRad85

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #42
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Everyone has a degree of patience, but two things make that a challenge in the end.

The first is the money we've spent. You would expect some sort of immediate return from certain players. That isn't really happening. The second is that the management is making a lot of poor decisions. What we did yesterday was something many of us have been calling for, for a long while. Certain players have been benched that also should have been playing. It is a concern when a fairly unanimous calling from the fans is actually correct, and the manager looks wrong.

We all get that it can take some time, we've seen enough shit as a fan base. Some of the things that have been happening have been a bit concerning though. I think it's acceptable to voice that.
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Some of the most clued up posters have been calling for this exact formation for a while, we know who we are. Needs a couple of tweaks to the 11 and Robins will have finally caught up.

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Grendel

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #43
Voice_of_Reason said:
So, which are the best 11 then. You can't say who you want to exclude and not say who you would. You are suggesting MR should by now, know his best 11 yet it wouldn't include those you have excluded.
The answer is, you don't know the best 11 in your opinion. Cheers, Grendel. Not arguing, just asking
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The big problem surely is many of the new signings aren’t automatic choices. So MVE and Da Silva aren’t clearly stamping authority and Wright and Simms ass misfiring. We still rely on the old guard of Allen Mcfazdean godden etc and many new players look questionable
 
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TomRad85

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #44
Grendel said:
Why? it won’t include those 3 - we’ve upgraded the squad by £22million so you’d think an aging Kelly, palmer whose destined to be on the fringes are hardky vital and as for Tavares I mean seriously
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Tavares' fancy name does a lot of heavy lifting.

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Voice_of_Reason

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #45
Grendel said:
The big problem surely is many of the new signings aren’t automatic choices. So MVE and Da Silva aren’t clearly stamping authority and Wright and Simms ass misfiring. We still rely on the old guard of Allen Mcfazdean godden etc and many new players look questionable
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Blimey, I agree with you Grendel !
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #46
Grendel said:
Wright and Simms ass misfiring.
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Voice_of_Reason

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #47
Brighton Sky Blue said:
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Be interesting to know what others think is our best 11/ formation - assume those injured are fit to choose from.
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #48
Brighton Sky Blue said:
People didn’t expect to be storming the league. They just also didn’t expect to be in a battle for survival which make no mistake, this team is in one.
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Most of the forum said playoffs at least

Where will We finish

Where will We finish , do these threads every year , let's go I'm voting as if Hamer is staying
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
 
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Voice_of_Reason

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #49
SBT said:
Most of the forum said playoffs at least

Where will We finish

Where will We finish , do these threads every year , let's go I'm voting as if Hamer is staying
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
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Only a couple of weeks ago the bookies super prediction final table has us finishing 6th lol.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #50
SBT said:
Most of the forum said playoffs at least

Where will We finish

Where will We finish , do these threads every year , let's go I'm voting as if Hamer is staying
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
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3% predicted bottom half…
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #51
SBT said:
Most of the forum said playoffs at least

Where will We finish

Where will We finish , do these threads every year , let's go I'm voting as if Hamer is staying
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
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you don’t take notice of opinion polls though
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #52
All fit. I’d go with
Wilson
Ewijk Kitching Thomas Bidwell
Eccles Sheaf Allen
O’Hare
Simms. Wright
 
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Voice_of_Reason

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #53
Cally Fedora said:
All fit. I’d go with
Wilson
Ewijk Kitching Thomas Bidwell
Eccles Sheaf Allen
O’Hare
Simms. Wright
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Subs. Tats, Lats, Palmer, Godden, Moore (surprised ? ... ,but experienced). Da Silva, Banks.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #54
Yes, agree with the subs. To be honest I’ve not seen much end product from Sakamoto but he’s tricky
 
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covboy9

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #55
Nothing is being built from what I can see and robins is panicking

two great players made all the difference

physically this team isn’t good enough
 
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covboy9

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #56
Glad to see bidwell back in

desilva is embarrassingly poor
 
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covboy9

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #57
Cally Fedora said:
Yes, agree with the subs. To be honest I’ve not seen much end product from Sakamoto but he’s tricky
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He came from same team as a lad that’s now plying his trade with col u

he’s not good enough
 

baldy

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  • Nov 12, 2023
  • #58
covboy9 said:
Glad to see bidwell back in

desilva is embarrassingly poor
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But Da Silva’s now an international
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #59
Cally Fedora said:
Yes, agree with the subs. To be honest I’ve not seen much end product from Sakamoto but he’s tricky
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Define end product:
In limited game time he has had at least three good attempts on goal and put in a fair few decent crosses
 

Balli001

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #60
baldy said:
But Da Silva’s now an international
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For Wales though so its a counter argument
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #61
baldy said:
But Da Silva’s now an international
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So was David Pipe
 

skybluecam

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #62
Collins
MVE Thomas Kitching Bidwell
Eccles Sheaf Allen
Sakamoto Simms Wright

That’s what I want to see us build towards playing, I can see why MR is being conservative with some positions.

Playmaking CM in Jan and that could be a good team. Maybe Ayari would look better in this formation as well.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #63
People seem to like a little whippet who tries hard, but doesn’t seem to offer much when on the pitch.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #64
Tommo1993 said:
People seem to like a little whippet who tries hard, but doesn’t seem to offer much when on the pitch.
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Sakamoto? He’s not really had the chance to build understanding with the rest of them, keeps getting shuffled around the pitch and is in and out of the team. If we’re playing wingers he has to start I think.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #65
skybluecam said:
Sakamoto? He’s not really had the chance to build understanding with the rest of them, keeps getting shuffled around the pitch and is in and out of the team. If we’re playing wingers he has to start I think.
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I just don’t think he’s what we need. I don’t think MR thinks so either.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #66
I liked him when was on the left midfield.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #67
Johhny Blue said:
Define end product:
In limited game time he has had at least three good attempts on goal and put in a fair few decent crosses
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OK, maybe need to phrase differently. I think he looks busy but it often comes to nothing. Accept he’s had limited game time .
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #68
Voice_of_Reason said:
You can't just throw a team of virtually new players and expect immediate results regardless of their value.
This season is like other seasons since MR took over management where a rebuild was needed in the past.
MR stressed this was a season of consolidation and it would take time. The only missing links are that Gus has not been replaced and a striker of Vic's quality. I think both Ellis and Wright will come good.
Trust the process, this is a season of a mid table consolidation ready for a push next season.
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M'Boro / Leicester / Leeds / Southampton all lost more players than we did over the summer. Its not taken then 16 games to gel.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #69
CV22SBA said:
M'Boro / Leicester / Leeds / Southampton all lost more players than we did over the summer. Its not taken then 16 games to gel.
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It’s because the players aren’t good enough for god sake

realism is needed, this team aren’t very good
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Nov 13, 2023
  • #70
A huge number of the current team were one kick away from promotion last year. It’s crazy to now say they are not very good.
 
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