Grendel
Well-Known Member
Also though non platforming is counter productive. The minute Nick Griffin was given a platform on Question Time he was exposed and the BNP virtually vanished overnight
People are generally just dickheads.
You can't have that attitude as the police though, at least not in the USA.
You have to immediately assess the danger when encountering any individual.
Anyone could be carrying a gun, knife or other weapon.
Police have been shot and killed just for approaching someone.
You'll also notice the Hawaiian shirts which is the official uniform of white supremacists preparing for a second civil war.
Also though non platforming is counter productive. The minute Nick Griffin was given a platform on Question Time he was exposed and the BNP virtually vanished overnight
Wrong thread.Two words.
Dominic. Cummings.
Not much different to the original climate then. There needs to be a movement people can join with spokesmen that can distance the movement from the looting and violence and put across clear demands. The rioting may be a symptom of unmet needs previously but it won’t be what forces political change.
I worry that since the ‘net every movement is some anarchic flat structure like Occupy and XR and that just allows it to be tarnished and achieve nothing.
It still happens on the shop floor now. Its Nowhere near as bad as it used to be though. It was horrendous at longbridge in the 90s. And that was both ways. Instant dismissal these days.Of course it does but I just don’t understand it. I honestly don’t see differences and I don’t understand it
Yeah but should a prick who doesn't believe I should even exist be on my TV?
It does expose the bogeyman and show them for what they are - the BNP were finished after that
Yeah like the dickheads when I was a kid who used to verbally abuse my mum in the street shouting abuse etc and throwing eggs at our house. Her only crime was she was Irish ffs.People are generally just dickheads.
Wrong thread.
Yeah like dickheads when I was a kid who used to verbally abuse my mum in the street shouting abuse etc and throwing eggs at our house. Her only crime was she was Irish ffs.
Yeah but, and it's a bit of rhetorical question, but WHY. What the fuck is wrong with people.
I remember it well. I was only a young kid in the 70s/early 80s and it made me so angry but what can you do at that age? Nothing. I remember my mum in tears and there was nothing I could do. Ira was shouted a lot. She's not even a catholic ffs.My Nan is also Irish. Wankers everywhere. And it's not a competition by any means, but the Irish community are laughing now. Wonder how that was managed?
No blacks
No dogs
No Irish
Disgusting.
I remember it well. I was only a young kid in the 70s/early 80s and it made me so angry but what can you do at that age? Nothing. I remember my mum in tears and there was nothing I could do. Ira was shouted a lot. She's not even a catholic ffs.
I honestly don’t know. Politically clearly I’m more supportive of conservative strategy but I’ve never understood discrimination on racist grounds all I’m saying is remove the platform and you create an audience - I have to believe most people are decent and fair minded regardless of political opinion and once prejudice is debated the racist loses the argument
I do know where you're coming from. I've experienced it myself. Contrary to what certain people say about me on here,they couldn't be further from the truth.I feel like you completely get where I am coming from in this thread (and in general) then, but a lot of your posts (elsewhere) suggest otherwise. Not having a go, just curious as to why.
"Good people"so why did they let armed, white, anti lockdown protesters storm government buildings without lifting a finger?
I do know where you're coming from. I've experienced it myself. Contrary to what certain people say about me on here,they couldn't be further from the truth.
Yeah but, and it's a bit of rhetorical question, but WHY. What the fuck is wrong with people.
Poor parental guidance?In my second year of teaching a teenager said he didn't want a young Asian lad 'immigrating into my seat'. Sent him out and called for the Head as it was a racist remark, but for the rest of the year he held the grudge because he didn't see what was wrong with it.
Hill, real sorry you still get this kind of crap.
Poor parental guidance?
My kids are in their 30s and, having been brought up in a multi-cultural city with school friends being from all colours and faiths, just do not get racism. They aren't sheltered, we've brought them up hopefully like any other sane parents, so they haven't had any bad influences to steer them down that road.
You learn your values from your parents first, then your peers. It's unfortunate that racism is usually something you learn or are taught - or the consequence of a promised but false society.
Hill, real sorry you still get this kind of crap.
There's so much of this online its astonishing. Goes way past the 'bad apples' argument. And if it was just a few bad cops why are the rest of them standing around watching?What the actual fuck. They're on camera and do it anyway as they know that they'll get away with it.
"name one time Trump was racist," Okay, I will
1973: The Nixon administration sued Trump for refusing to rent to black people.
1980s: Trump's casinos were accused of hiding the black staff when Trump visited.
1989: Trump took out a full-page ad, arguing for the death penalty for a group of black men (The 'Central Park Five'), effectively putting a bounty on their heads, and plaguing them with a lifetime of death threats. He was sued by the Justice Department for discrimination.
1991: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kinds of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day… I think that the [black] guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is.”
1992: Trump's casino was fined $200,000 for transferring black dealers off certain tables to appease racist patrons.
1993: Trump said Native American casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
2000: Trump ran a series of attack ads against Native American casinos alleging (with no proof) that they were guilty of crimes.
2004: Trump fired a black contestant from 'The Apprentice' for being over-educated.
2010: Trump argued in favor of segregating Muslims in Lower Manhattan.
2011: Birtherism. Trump alleged that Obama was Kenyan based on nothing but skin color. He never apologized nor renounced that claim.
2015 (1): Trump called Mexican immigrants "rapists" who are "bringing crime and drugs" to the U.S.
2015 (2): Trump called for "a ban on all Muslims entering the U.S."
2016 (1): Trump called for a Mexican judge to recuse himself based on nothing other than his race. Paul Ryan said this was “the textbook definition of a racist comment.”
2016 (2): Trump regularly retweeted material from white supremacists and neo-Nazis during his campaign.
2016 (3): Trump tweeted a picture alleging that Hillary was Jewish, or controlled by Jewish people.
2016 (4): The Trump campaign adopted Nixon's "Law and Order" rhetoric which was based in racial fearmongering.
2016 (5): Trump told black voters "What do you have to lose?"
2017 (1): Trump asked a reporter to set up a meeting with the black caucus simply because she was black.
2017 (2): "...some very fine people on both sides" said Trump of a violent Nazi rally.
2017 (3): Trump said people from Haiti "all have AIDS" and people from Nigeria would never “go back to their huts” after seeing America.
2018 (1): Trump called Haiti and African countries shitholes.
2018 (2): Trump referenced the trail of tears to mock Elizabeth Warren.
2019: Trump tweeted that four black and brown congresswomen should go back where they came from. Then attacked Elijah Cummings. Then Baltimore. Then Al Sharpton.
2020: Trump called black protesters "THUGS" just days after calling white protesters "very good people." Then he threatened to direct the military to shoot the black protestors in the street.
Yeah but, and it's a bit of rhetorical question, but WHY. What the fuck is wrong with people.
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