The coventrian
Well-Known Member
Ok mate.
Ok mate.You also thought that most people would be ok with shooting the dinghies.
Ok mate.
I actually meant that the majority of the general public are probably sick of seeing freeloaders illegally entering the uk on a daily basis but you know this.You did though buddy, don't think you've got much handle on what most people think
Because they’re all wearing badges that say ‘free-loader’ on them as they rock up.I actually meant that the majority of the general public are probably sick of seeing freeloaders illegally entering the uk on a daily basis but you know this.
I don't care. They can all fuck off as far as I'm concerned.Because they’re all wearing badges that say ‘free-loader’ on them as they rock up.
I was on about all statues that these people apparently now want removed and the stuff that khan was on about. Put it to a public vote. I think the majority of people would stick 2 fingers up and say fuck off.
Proportionately more Irish volunteered for the British army than from any other nation, 27% of them became NCOs, a higher percentage than the English. There was also lots of 'behind the scenes' co-operation. A divided country for sure at that time, trying to work out who was the bigger enemy & plenty of soldiers got abuse when getting back to Ireland. On the other side of that again, there are lots of WW1 & WW2 memorials in Ireland, there's one not more than 10 miles away from me right now, and thats in a 'neutral' country. Therefore stating that everyone in Ireland was a huge nazi sympathiser is just... well a slightly bizarre notion to say the least.
Here’s an idea Soviet Statue Graveyard
Here’s an idea Soviet Statue Graveyard
There was an interesting opinion piece in the guardian about that, and in particular the different types and hierarchy of racism, experienced by different ethnic groups.I am surprised no one has commented on the letter sent to Priti Patel accusing the previously racially abused Home Secretary of gaslighting regarding racism - it seems Ms Patel Is not infact black enough according to 30 labour MPs
The curious thing is it seems this communication was forwarded by the known anti Semite and racist Naz Shah
Sir keir it seems has adopted the Corbyn stance of no comment
What a marvellous opposition party labour are
There was an interesting opinion piece in the guardian about that, and in particular the different types and hierarchy of racism, experienced by different ethnic groups.
Priti Patel may have experienced one form of racism. That doesn't mean she gets to dismiss others | Sonia Sodha
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Personally, anyone who has found to have been racist should be sacked. Labour should have dealt with anti-semitism better. The tories should have dealt with Islamophobia better.Do you think any racism is tolerable then - what’s your view on Naz Shah and as I say the Labour hierarchy seems not to be in control of these communications
There was an interesting opinion piece in the guardian about that, and in particular the different types and hierarchy of racism, experienced by different ethnic groups.
Priti Patel may have experienced one form of racism. That doesn't mean she gets to dismiss others | Sonia Sodha
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That’s a good read. Thing is with Priti is that she voted to bury the Windrush papers & brought in laws that would have stopped her family from coming here, so it’s understandable that emotions run high with her. Going around giving her racist abuse herself though is just bloody wrong and anyone doing that needs the chop.
There’s no hope for you if that’s your belief.I don't care. They can all fuck off as far as I'm concerned.
Yes as I'm sure the countries these people come from would welcome us with open arms wouldn't they. I guess theyd house,feed,school our children free of charge. Would they fuck,theyd more than likely slit your throat for being English.There’s no hope for you if that’s your belief.
Let’s hope that we are never desolated through war or natural disaster.
Yes as I'm sure the countries these people come from would welcome us with open arms wouldn't they. I guess theyd house,feed,school our children free of charge. Would they fuck,theyd more than likely slit your throat for being English.
She doesn’t even understand what “this” is. She thinks “this” is about one person.After reading here I listened to some Candice Owen's and I was very impressed.
She is extremely intelligent and makes what I think are very important points.
I think the problem is that some people don't like that she is conservative and therefore all of a sudden her views on racism get quashed. It's nonsense really and further proves that people have different agendas rather than just working together to try and resolve this.
She doesn’t even understand what “this” is. She thinks “this” is about one person.
Great whatifery. It’s her words not mine. You should think about what she didn’t say rather than what she did say. BLM is about more than the murder of one black man, she chooses to concentrate on that one person because he has a somewhat colourful past and her attempts to make it about one person is an effort to undermine the far far bigger issues that the movement highlights.You see if that was me saying something like that towards any other black person talking about racism, I would get the 'how dare you talk about something you don't understand' conversation.
The hypocrisy is staggering.
Great whatifery. It’s her words not mine. You should think about what she didn’t say rather than what she did say. BLM is about more than the murder of one black man, she chooses to concentrate on that one person because he has a somewhat colourful past and her attempts to make it about one person is an effort to undermine the far far bigger issues that the movement highlights.
After reading here I listened to some Candice Owen's and I was very impressed.
She is extremely intelligent and makes what I think are very important points.
I think the problem is that some people don't like that she is conservative and therefore all of a sudden her views on racism get quashed. It's nonsense really and further proves that people have different agendas rather than just working together to try and resolve this.
Yes as I'm sure the countries these people come from would welcome us with open arms wouldn't they. I guess theyd house,feed,school our children free of charge. Would they fuck,theyd more than likely slit your throat for being English.
You see if that was me saying something like that towards any other black person talking about racism, I would get the 'how dare you talk about something you don't understand' conversation.
The hypocrisy is staggering.
You just don't like it because she mentions fatherless homes and crime rates.
The whole thing needs adult and open discussion. It doesn't happen for reasons we see in this thread right at the current second.
Using the #BLM hashtag does fuck all to fight racism really. There needs to be open and honest discussion about all aspects of ethnic minorities who are either being predejuce against or suffering. People are scared to speak up in case of getting called racist, and then when someone does who is black, she gets shot down by the left because she doesn't constantly play the victim card.
Shouting, screaming, kicking people off radio stations is not an argument.
I've seen black people say she allows racists to justify their racism.
What would you say to them?
Also, when left wing Jews stood up for Corbyn and went against the narrative that was being painted they were told they were the wrong kind of Jews and called useful Jewish idiots.
Didn't see the people defending Candice Owwens defending them
The hypocrisy is staggering
I would say the exact same thing I said to Tony.
The problem is that the left claims to be tolerant, but it is completely intolerant of any opinions that don't match with theirs.
Racism is an issue, so are social issues within the black community. People don't like her talking about it because it doesn't suit the narrative that they are 24/7 victims.
The first part of the thread is people being outraged (supposedly), now people are having a go at a black woman who wants to speak up and has an opinion.
I know who I would rather listen to.
But you're dragging issues into the argument that aren't relevant.
And as Tony pointed out Candice Owens argument is disengenious. But you'd rather listen to one black persons argument that fits your narrative but ignore all of black social commentators who argue the opposite?
This isn't just about George Floyd it's about years of systematic police brutality in the country that is supposed to be the leader of the free world which disproportionately affects one section of the community. You're just trying to distract.
People talk about George Floyd rap sheet, what about Derek Chauvins?
Stop trying to excuse the US police murdering people in cold blood.
Look at the article I linked earlier in this thread from the Washington post regarding police killings and police brutality. It's horrendous.
And you haven't answered my question about white mass murders and illegally armed militia?
I think a little self reflection is needed here. You are saying I'm ignoring one side of the argument when in actual fact I'm listening to both and think it is a much wider issue than some are making out.
The left, once again, just try and shut down any talk that doesn't match their narrative. Calling everyone racist one moment, then the next ignoring a black person's opinion. As I said, the hypocrisy is staggering.
I'm in total agreement about the white militia double standards thing by the way.
WTliteralF?You just don't like it because she mentions fatherless homes and crime rates.
The whole thing needs adult and open discussion. It doesn't happen for reasons we see in this thread right at the current second.
Using the #BLM hashtag does fuck all to fight racism really. There needs to be open and honest discussion about all aspects of ethnic minorities who are either being predejuce against or suffering. People are scared to speak up in case of getting called racist, and then when someone does who is black, she gets shot down by the left because she doesn't constantly play the victim card.
Shouting, screaming, kicking people off radio stations is not an argument.
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