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Captain Dart

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  • Apr 22, 2017
  • #211
fernandopartridge said:
Just had a look at Dawn Butler's twitter account, she's on about getting British Sign Language on to the national curriculum. This is what I mean about the Labour obsession with minority groups.
How would BSL benefit the majority or learning it be a good use of teaching/learning time?

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mrtrench

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2017
  • #212
Captain Dart said:
Good lord, just a muddled attempt to make accusations about democratic unfairness which she couldn't explain followed by an attack on a company for 'not paying taxes' which it turned out she wasn't too sure about and withdrew. What is staggering is the 19,000 majority she has considering she is so inarticulate, but then she represents the peoples republic of Brent Central.
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She later fully withdrew the accusation when it was pointed out to her that Costa Coffee do pay all their taxes in this country.
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2017
  • #213
BTW, my voting flow chart was actually tweeted by Clive Lewis. Top man.
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2017
  • #214
fernandopartridge said:
Just had a look at Dawn Butler's twitter account, she's on about getting British Sign Language on to the national curriculum. This is what I mean about the Labour obsession with minority groups.
How would BSL benefit the majority or learning it be a good use of teaching/learning time?

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There's nothing wrong with it to a basic level in Primary school - but not in a secondary school.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2017
  • #215
rob9872 said:
Those of you who said further up that you'd support Lewis for Labour leader, he was one of the spineless 13 who voted no to an election.
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Maybe he voted no because it will mess up his wedding and honeymoon
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2017
  • #216
Ian1779 said:
There's nothing wrong with it to a basic level in Primary school - but not in a secondary school.
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"Teach X in schools" is a shitty policy thought up by people who have no idea how to come up with an actual effective policy.

Most schools I know have had BSL lessons available in some form anyway, there's usually a mumsy TA who is overly keen on training everyone.
 
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Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2017
  • #217
Must not forget this beauty. Beware of these people knocking your door.


Coventry - City of peace and reconciliation and also weapons of mass destruction.
 
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dutchman

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2017
  • #218
Tory lead is slashed in half after tax U-turn | Daily Mail Online
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #219
dutchman said:
Tory lead is slashed in half after tax U-turn | Daily Mail Online
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They're desperately trying to stop this looking like the coronation it is.

We were polling 1 vote for every 2 Tory votes FFS.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #220
Brighton Sky Blue said:
As a young person who has voted in every election and referendum I have been eligible to, comments like that are so God damn frustrating. Of course, the generation before has done such a smashing job of running affairs over the years...
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I said sadly. But the reason pensioners get so much cash thrown at them is because they vote in their droves. Even if the young matched them on turnout, there's still far fewer of them and always will be.

If you want minority groups represented in Parliament you need PR not FPTP. If you want that you need a government that doesn't benefit from FPTP. Good luck with that.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #221
shmmeee said:
I said sadly. But the reason pensioners get so much cash thrown at them is because they vote in their droves. Even if the young matched them on turnout, there's still far fewer of them and always will be.

If you want minority groups represented in Parliament you need PR not FPTP. If you want that you need a government that doesn't benefit from FPTP. Good luck with that.
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That part I understand, and is why I struggle to get why so many others my age or younger are so enthusiastic about voting Tory when it is a demographic they couldn't care less about. My late grandfather voted Labour for over 60 years on the basis that despite being well off society had an obligation to the less well off and that wealth needed to be redistributed more evenly. Seems to me that voters like him are pretty much a dying breed and the majority now are in the 'I'm alright Jack' category. Which will see Theresa May get elected with a stonking majority while months later people wonder what's happened to their tax credits/hospitals/schools/police etc.

I also see that Jezza has gone proposing an extra 4 bank holidays for each patron saint of the UK. For Christ's sake stick to the important issues...
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #222
Got to be honest, I like the national holidays policy. Shame it's wasted on Corbyn mind.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #223
People on this thread are saying that Labour are only concerned with minorities and many people, particularly on the right have been saying that St. George's day should be a national holiday for an age. I think 4 extra bank holidays which would benefit everyone in the country and give recognition to the individual nations of the UK is a great idea. I can't see how anybody can be opposed to it.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #224
Corbyn on IS, I find it shocking he wants to talk to them, they need to be eradicated wherever they pop up.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #225
Captain Dart said:
Corbyn on IS, I find it shocking he wants to talk to them, they need to be eradicated wherever they pop up.
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Yes, they're not even a terrorist organisation with a general cause.

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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #226
dutchman said:
Tory lead is slashed in half after tax U-turn | Daily Mail Online
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You'll get a lot of scare stories as the only thing that will stop a thumping Tory majority is voter apathy.

A few scare stories about Corbyn as PM and getting sturgeon fast tracked as an MP to be his sidekick will do the trick.

Great to see Corbyn and co trying to ensure a hard left candidate can stand in the next leadership election. The pathetic coronation of Marxist Len the other day will ensure labour remains hard left and absurdly unelectable for a few more years yet.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #227
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I struggle to get why so many others my age or younger are so enthusiastic about voting Tory when it is a demographic they couldn't care less about.
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It does seem a bit turkeys voting for Christmas.

The other thing that I find frustrating is when people will happily ignore facts. I have discussions with my Dad (a lifelong Tory voter) and you can present clear facts and just get something along the lines of 'that can't be true'.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #228
Grendel said:
Oh please. Do some research on Mr Corbyn and what he stands for. Its all in the public record. If you genuinely want a racist as PM, a terrorist as Chancellor and Dianne Abbott in anything but old Jeremy's camper van then you are welcome to it.
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there is no regime on earth as loathsome as the Sauds whom May has been cosying upto recently. Misogyny. racism, sectarianism and terrorism are all charges which can comfortably levelled at them. The MET is also investigating possible war crimes in Yemen so that could soon be added to the charge sheet.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #229
To be honest anyone who'd vote for Corbyn is either a labour voter come what may or just completely deranged.

Regardless of political persuasion you have to have a degree of competence to run a country. Corbyn couldn't run a whelk stall in a local market.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #230
May is far from competent herself...what a depressing election.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #231
Sick Boy said:
May is far from competent herself...what a depressing election.
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The global markets will view her as competent and that's all that matters and her experience in key positions makes her a giant against a hapless Pygmy like Corbyn
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #232
Grendel said:
The global markets will view her as competent and that's all that matters and her experience in key positions makes her a giant against a hapless Pygmy like Corbyn
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Global markets all that matters says man who voted brexit wholly against market advice.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #233
Grendel said:
The global markets will view her as competent and that's all that matters and her experience in key positions makes her a giant against a hapless Pygmy like Corbyn
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Yeah that's why the markets tanked when first time politician Trump won. Oh wait, they did the opposite.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #234
shmmeee said:
Yeah that's why the markets tanked when first time politician Trump won. Oh wait, they did the opposite.
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You seem to me proving my point for me. Corbyn is anything but a first time politician but will be viewed as unstable in a global economy.

It's really not a difficult concept to comprehend.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #235
Grendel said:
You'll get a lot of scare stories as the only thing that will stop a thumping Tory majority is voter apathy.

A few scare stories about Corbyn as PM and getting sturgeon fast tracked as an MP to be his sidekick will do the trick.

Great to see Corbyn and co trying to ensure a hard left candidate can stand in the next leadership election. The pathetic coronation of Marxist Len the other day will ensure labour remains hard left and absurdly unelectable for a few more years yet.
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Hard left, grow up.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #236
chiefdave said:
It does seem a bit turkeys voting for Christmas.

The other thing that I find frustrating is when people will happily ignore facts. I have discussions with my Dad (a lifelong Tory voter) and you can present clear facts and just get something along the lines of 'that can't be true'.
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The media is very good at what it does, quite simply. That Grendel here calls a social democrat one of the 'hard left' shows how far right the country has been dragged.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #237
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Hard left, grow up.
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McDonnell is possibly the most dangerous man in British politics. A man who openly believes in assassinating his enemies, bullying intimidation and abuse fir anyone who stands in his way

It's known he pulls Corbyns strings.

Ignore the danger at your peril

John McDonnell is deeply unpleasant man – and Jeremy Corbyn wants him to be Labour's next leader
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #238
Grendel said:
McDonnell is possibly the most dangerous man in British politics. A man who openly believes in assassinating his enemies, bullying intimidation and abuse fir anyone who stands in his way

It's known he pulls Corbyns strings.

Ignore the danger at your peril

John McDonnell is deeply unpleasant man – and Jeremy Corbyn wants him to be Labour's next leader
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The Telegraph article is a very accurate portrayal of McDonnell. A particularly loathsome individual.
 
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dutchman

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #239
SIR ERNIE said:
The Telegraph article is a very accurate portrayal of McDonnell. A particularly loathsome individual.
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Unlike this bloke:
Blair hints he could run for Parliament to fight Brexit | Daily Mail Online
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 23, 2017
  • #240
Grendel said:
McDonnell is possibly the most dangerous man in British politics. A man who openly believes in assassinating his enemies, bullying intimidation and abuse fir anyone who stands in his way

It's known he pulls Corbyns strings.

Ignore the danger at your peril

John McDonnell is deeply unpleasant man – and Jeremy Corbyn wants him to be Labour's next leader
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Where has he openly called for assassinating his opponents? As for the intimidation, do you really think that similar things don't go on behind the closed doors of the Conservative Party? I have no time for either, but let's not act like the other party is full of angels. I'm also still waiting for you to comment on Mrs May's arming of the Saudi regime as they commit war crimes in Yemen and behead their citizens for witchcraft. Why is she not a terrorist sympathiser as well?
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #241
Maybe the Tories could finally clarify if Nelson Mandela was a hero or a terrorist?
 
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oucho

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  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #242
Philosorapter said:
Must not forget this beauty. Beware of these people knocking your door.


Coventry - City of peace and reconciliation and also weapons of mass destruction.
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That is pathetic!
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #243
Grendel said:
To be honest anyone who'd vote for Corbyn is either a labour voter come what may or just completely deranged.

Regardless of political persuasion you have to have a degree of competence to run a country. Corbyn couldn't run a whelk stall in a local market.
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"Anyone who votes Labour is a Labour voter"

Stunning political insight.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #244
shmmeee said:
"Anyone who votes Labour is a Labour voter"

Stunning political insight.
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Well some people will vote for labour even if they had a cabbage from the local veg stall as the leader.

Well come to think about it
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #245
I will mostly likely vote Labour due to my local MP, Peter Kyle.
 
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