Yup. Even if we get a reasonable deal, it still won't be enough for som, who have a bizarre thought that the EU will roll over an give us everything we want. And that some could now be the tipping point...
Perhaps Jeremy can call on his friends to help him form a government. A favour for all his help in the past.
Sinn Fein don't take their seats so that won't happen. Will be a tory DUP coalition.
No, I agree. That being said, as MPs tend to pop off during the five years, and the incumbent party tends to do badly in by-elections, wouldn't take much to make it unworkable.I was being flippant. I never really get why they say you need 326 seats as you don't it's 322. The UDP will side and the Tories will carry on.
But even less want Labour. So does that mean both May and Corbyn should go?The voting public have unequivocally said that her party are not wanted to run this country.
I was being flippant. I never really get why they say you need 326 seats as you don't it's 322. The UDP will side and the Tories will carry on.
But even less want Labour. So does that mean both May and Corbyn should go?
As I said earlier I would prefer Starmer to be leader of the Labour party. Someone the electorate could put their faith in. And Boris for the Conservatives. That would get the Labour party back in power.
Now that you’ve had your few hours crowing over the result:
1) Tories lost seats, but increased their vote share and Labour didn’t actually win
2) You’ll still get the cuts and not the investment you seek
3) 5 years of opposition or yet another election
4) An awful Brexit deal, regardless of whether you agree with Brexit we now get shafted
As much as I dislike the measures and suggestions Labour made ahead of the election, in some ways I wish they had won outright and said now go and deliver what you promised. All in imo a hung parliament is the worst possible result.
Now that you’ve had your few hours crowing over the result:
1) Tories lost seats, but increased their vote share and Labour didn’t actually win
2) You’ll still get the cuts and not the investment you seek
3) 5 years of opposition or yet another election
4) An awful Brexit deal, regardless of whether you agree with Brexit we now get shafted
As much as I dislike the measures and suggestions Labour made ahead of the election, in some ways I wish they had won outright and said now go and deliver what you promised. All in imo a hung parliament is the worst possible result.
I actually think it's more likely we get a deal appropriate to this country, as opposed to one forced through by ideological desires, rather than the broad church who voted for it.4) An awful Brexit deal, regardless of whether you agree with Brexit we now get shafted
They were within 2%, that's pretty close.They weren't even close.
She can't resign. She will have to carry on - she should actually take up labours kind offer to run the country.
That won't happen.
She is the most popular leader in terms of the overall vote for 16 years.
They were within 2%, that's pretty close.
It's not irrelevant. It shows they're closer in a number of seats, and next time it won't tak much of a shift.Irrelevant - in terms of seats they were miles adrift.
Irrelevant - in terms of seats they were miles adrift.
It's not irrelevant. It shows they're closer in a number of seats, and next time it won't tak much of a shift.
And if it's all about the seats, then UKIP's dismal failure over the years would suggest the referendum was a blip, and zero people ever wanted UKI...
if they were miles adrift the tories wouldn't be on the phone to the flat earth society asking them to prop up their government.
But this was part of the plan apparently. Keep Corbyn in power so they can have another 5 years next time around.Agreed hung parliament result is the worst possible result. We all lose now really. Someone needed a majority and deliver a clear plan. Tory will still govern for next 5 years.
Whilst I agree labour had a good night they still lost a majority by 60 odd seats. They weren't even close. I have to agree with a real labour leader they would of got a majority last night.
She needs to be popular with her own party.She can't resign. She will have to carry on - she should actually take up labours kind offer to run the country.
That won't happen.
She is the most popular leader in terms of the overall vote for 16 years.
They only got one seat under that one man, so were a total irrelevance then, and not remotely representing any group of people in the country, by your logic.It is irrelevant as this is not a PR system - if it was a PR system the vote patterns would change
UKIP have always relied on one man. Today that man suggested he may need to get back into politics.
They only got one seat under that one man, so were a total irrelevance then, and not remotely representing any group of people in the country, by your logic.
I'll give you your due, sometimes you're good valueNo under this system they are not and neither are labour
Socialism has been roundly rejected as a politic doctrine - Corbyn should resign.
i see the SISU OUT independent got over a 1000 votes!
Coventry North West
Lab Geoffrey Robinson (53.95%)
26,894
votes
Con Resham Kotecha (36.74%)
18,314
votes
UKIP Michael Gee (3.06%)
1,525
votes
Lib Dem Andrew Hilton (2.58%)
1,286
votes
Ind Ciaran Norris (2.34%)
1,164
votes
Green Stephen Gray (1.34%)
666
votes
Result: Lab holdSwing: 3.62% from Con to LabVotes: 49,849
'lt'll be a price though - I'd imagine the DUP are in a room now drawing up a list.
They want the triple lock pension to remain, they want soft brexit, I'm not sure what else, their website keeps crashing!
Conservatives missed their chance by not coming up with a local candidate. How can you complain about GR's commitment when you just parachute a random in?and the man who welcomed them in got 26,000!
I'll give you your due, sometimes you're good value
I don't think there will. Wait until the negotiations don't go to plan, and then try and bring her down would be far better from an opposition POV. And it'd be far too dangerous to try running an election yet again from a Tory POV, as Corbyn's shown himself a viable alternative now.There's bound to be another election called before the year is out
Yep. The Tories are going to have to make some concessions to form an alliance with the DUP. Ironically if the likely concessions had have been policy in the first place, which wouldn't have been unreasonable, she wouldn't be in this mess now. She paid too much attention to the shouty out means out, we know what we voted for to realise that actually not all that voted out voted for a hard brexit and almost an equal amount to those that voted leave voted remain.
She was either always leave and had now shown her true colours or she's actually failed to grasp what the referendum actually said choosing to incompetently listen to the wrong people.
Is Nicola sturgeon going to demand another vote as she does not agree with the result?
Regards.
As I've said Corbyn did perform well. Given his lack of leadership campaign experience his performances certainly defied my expectation of him.
Despite his age he came across as an energetic and passionate candidate and more engaged than his opponent.
The problem is though that he has reached maximum with this vote and is nowhere near forming a majority government.
If he resigned he'd get credit and probably with his personality get a media gig. Then the party should produce an electable candidate whose seen as credible across the country.
Whatever way you look at it you can't get around this being a disaster for May and good news for Labour, or at least Corbyn.
May called the election to get a stronger position, an increase in the Conservative majority. She has spectacularly failed at that which has to put her leadership under pressure.
Corbyn has really pulled it out of the bag here. All the polls and predictions when the election was called were a landslide and huge embarrassment for him. People talking about the lowest Labour vote ever and the end of the party. Where do they go from here? You have to think the sensible option is to unite behind him and build on this. The younger (and in this instance younger is equating to 40 and under) came out in numbers not normally seen as for once they had someone they felt would represent them. Can they build on that and get even more of that group out and voting next time?
Overall though we're now in a mess. The Conservatives gambled on a referendum thinking they knew what the result would be and lost and they've gambled again on this election expecting a landslide which hasn't appeared. This is exactly why we changed to fixed term parliaments, election should never have been called. There's bound to be another election called before the year is out and all the time the clock is ticking on brexit.
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