Yeah, I'm not taking anything away from them at all.
I'm just saying if the Conservatives had an organised and strong campaign, Corbyn wouldn't have had a chance. It was a one horse race and they fucked it up, for that they only have themselves to blame.
View attachment 7584 Just about the best picture of the night.
is that the skybluetalk forum meet up?
Is that the knights of say ni?View attachment 7584 Just about the best picture of the night.
the thing is, no matter how strong their campaign had been, people are seeing, and living, with the effects of their swingeing austerity measures.
The fact that one trench of their cuts, to the police, was tragically brought into focus by events in Manchester and London during the campaign didn't help.
The cuts have been too much, but they had not a lot to do with the terror attacks.
As I said, the 10,000 police officer pledge is bollocks, and it is surprising people can't see that Labour weakness on immigration etc will just make it worse anyway.
At the end of the day if Labour had a different leader they would have won it, and probably if the Conservatives had a different leader they would have won it.
They were both pretty shit and they cancelled each other out.
Tories always throw mud, its their MO.I think they kept it simple, the offer was simple and was delivered in that fashion. Tories threw mud which backfired
That's not what senior police officers told May.
How are Labour weak on immigration - the policy in their manifesto sounded pretty good to me, whether people trust them to implement it is another matter.
The tories have missed every one of their net immigration targets.
I'm not talking about the Tories.
I do not trust Labour with their woolly immigration stance, as I do not trust them with their police officer pledge. As I said, I play football with someone very high up in Warwickshire police, and despite my thoughts that he would be quite pro labour, he said their pledge in the manifesto was utter bullshit.
Anyway, it's all well and good having more police officers. If Labour were in power you are going to need them. Not that that will happen.
The Tories made manifesto commitments to reduce immigration to the tens of thousands. During the last 7 years it has been at record levels.I'm not talking about the Tories.
I do not trust Labour with their woolly immigration stance, as I do not trust them with their police officer pledge. As I said, I play football with someone very high up in Warwickshire police, and despite my thoughts that he would be quite pro labour, he said their pledge in the manifesto was utter bullshit.
Anyway, it's all well and good having more police officers. If Labour were in power you are going to need them. Not that that will happen.
Second funniest thing of the election. Only second to May refusing to stand down.View attachment 7584 Just about the best picture of the night.
They used bolts...huge bolts...not rivetsI watched the one on iplayer about the building of the severn bridge last night. riveting.
No - it's still there, unfortunatelyThink labour might have lost Walsall
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She didn't show her twat?May looks stunned and imagine dressing in red what a twat
Yeah, I'm not taking anything away from them at all.
I'm just saying if the Conservatives had an organised and strong campaign, Corbyn wouldn't have had a chance. It was a one horse race and they fucked it up, for that they only have themselves to blame.
Personally I think that there were no winners. Labour missed a big chance to win. The Tories didn't even show up. UKIP lost lots of votes :smuggrin: The SNP and Sturgeon have had a wake-up call. Cleggy has gone. And best of all May is now in charge of a weakened government after taking the British people for granted.True, but then the election was called from a position of strength, and you'd expect come the next one it'll be a position of weakness.
Could actually be the ideal result for Labour...
I've seen her now in a number of different outfits, so, no.She is so desperate to cling onto power and is refusing to resign, does she have no dignity?
Yet there are 2 losers, the SNP and Theresa May. To call an election to be held 11 before Brexit negotiations start to try and increase the majority and lose seats is a massive fuck up. Not sure how this will affect the negotiations, personally I would prefer a soft brexit or not one at allPersonally I think that there were no winners. Labour missed a big chance to win. The Tories didn't even show up. UKIP lost lots of votes :smuggrin: The SNP and Sturgeon have had a wake-up call. Cleggy has gone. And best of all May is now in charge of a weakened government after taking the British people for granted.
She is so desperate to cling onto power and is refusing to resign, does she have no dignity?
The Tories made manifesto commitments to reduce immigration to the tens of thousands. During the last 7 years it has been at record levels.
Their strong rhetoric isn't backed up with any workable plan. They talk about immigration and law and order whilst simultaneously cutting state resource that deals with it, and Tory voting mugs fall for it every time.
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True, but then the election was called from a position of strength, and you'd expect come the next one it'll be a position of weakness.
Could actually be the ideal result for Labour...
But hasn't Tory won by around 55 seats to labour still? So they need like 9 seats to form a government. It wouldn't shock me because they only need so little seats that they will still take the power grab and form a government for 5 years.
Do you remember when City used to beat Man Utd or Liverpool and then onLabour have done well, but this is on the Conservatives.
If they'd even had an average campaign they would have scraped a majority. Before people get too carried away I think it needs to be realised that this was the Tories who fucked this up rather than Labour perfroming miracles.
Not taking anything away from Labour though. May however, needs to be fucked off!
Corbyn refused to resign following a vote of no confidence when 172 out of 212 of Labour MPs wanted him to resign, so it is a bit hypocritical of him to suggest that May should resign.
Regards.
Yup. Even if we get a reasonable deal, it still won't be enough for som, who have a bizarre thought that the EU will roll over an give us everything we want. And that some could now be the tipping point...totally agree. I think Brexit will be a car crash, you don't want to be the party with that on your CV, hence my tin foil hat conspiracy theory that the tories tried to lose the election.
She is the most popular leader in terms of the overall vote for 16 years.
Corbyn refused to resign following a vote of no confidence when 172 out of 212 of Labour MPs wanted him to resign, so it is a bit hypocritical of him to suggest that May should resign.
Regards.
That's like saying Kim Jong-Un is the most popular leader in North Korea...
Yes because those rebels thought the Tory-lite way was the future....
The electorate have said otherwise.
Well it isn't because the voting public have made her so.
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