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torchomatic

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,856
Astute said:
It is 19% now. So nearly a 50% jump. And Trump said that he is going to lower it to 15%.
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He's also going to build a wall isn't he? Christ it's getting desperate when people have to use Trump.to back up their POV.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,857
Astute said:
Sometimes it is good to look into something than blindly follow what you always do.

What objections above?

So if we raise corporation tax there is no chance of companies moving to where it is cheaper and the same investments would still be made here?
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I believe that the notion of companies moving to take advantage of lower CT is generally overstated. The reality is that companies move to where the workforce meets the skill requirements of the company. It's almost as if moving countries is free.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,858
Grendel said:
I'm mote concerned about the absecence of John McDonnell. Where is he?

Having a pint with Mr Adams perhaps? Reminiscing about the bulletts, the bombs and the dead Tories - the good old days.
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Yeah, that Tory councillor will know more, she was even closer than Adams was to the action by the sound of it.
 
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Astute

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,859
torchomatic said:
He's also going to build a wall isn't he? Christ it's getting desperate when people have to use Trump.to back up their POV.
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You are right. People who think Corbyn would make a good PM have continually mentioned him.
 

Astute

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,860
fernandopartridge said:
Yeah, that Tory councillor will know more, she was even closer than Adams was to the action by the sound of it.
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Sounds like her and Corbyn should belong to the same party.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,861
Grendel said:
John McDonnell was against the peace process wasn't he? It was bombs and bullets for him wasn't it? Unbelievable.
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Pretty sure he was pro peace process not anti. That was the whole point of him and Corbyn opening dialogue with Sinn Fein and the IRA when those in power wouldn't right up until John Major.

His comments about IRA members being brave etc. were way out but to say he was anti peace process sounds like a Facebook headline and you don't have the intelligence to work out that it's probably an untruth. Maybe it had a picture with it? That's the facebook law isn't it? If it has a picture with it it must be true.
 
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skybluedan

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,862
When is the election like ?
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,863
skybluedan said:
When is the election like ?
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not until Christmas Dan, you've got loads of time to gen up on who to vote for.
 
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Astute

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,864
skybluetony176 said:
Pretty sure he was pro peace process not anti. That was the whole point of him and Corbyn opening dialogue with Sinn Fein and the IRA.

His comments about IRA members being brave etc. were way out but to say he was anti peace process sounds like a Facebook headline and you don't have the intelligence to work out that it's probably an untruth. Maybe it had a picture with it? That's the facebook law isn't it? If it has a picture with it it must be true.
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I don't do farcebook. More trouble than it's worth. And I'm not interested in what someone is having for their dinner.

Who said anti peace? As you said though he has at least made bad choices on comments made. At best he should have engaged his brain before using his mouth. Not PM material to me.

Once they have got rid of him I will most probably vote Labour again. But they have already tried getting rid of him and failed. His faults are why he was 200/1 to become Labour leader.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,865
Astute said:
Sounds like her and Corbyn should belong to the same party.
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Corbyn never aided or armed the IRA. Right now though our Prime Minister is arming an extremist Islamic dictatorship committing war crimes with our weapons. Might I suggest she get a question on that just once?
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,866
Astute said:
I don't do farcebook. More trouble than it's worth. And I'm not interested in what someone is having for their dinner.

Who said anti peace? As you said though he has at least made bad choices on comments made. At best he should have engaged his brain before using his mouth. Not PM material to me.

Once they have got rid of him I will most probably vote Labour again. But they have already tried getting rid of him and failed. His faults are why he was 200/1 to become Labour leader.
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he must be doing something right, the right wing press have really started gunning for him in the last few days.

I'm sure those 5 billionaire media moguls have the best interest of the British electorate at heart.
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,867
Astute said:
I don't do farcebook. More trouble than it's worth. And I'm not interested in what someone is having for their dinner.

Who said anti peace? As you said though he has at least made bad choices on comments made. At best he should have engaged his brain before using his mouth. Not PM material to me.

Once they have got rid of him I will most probably vote Labour again. But they have already tried getting rid of him and failed. His faults are why he was 200/1 to become Labour leader.
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No, I wouldn't describe Corbyn as 'anti-peace'.

Just anti-Britain.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,868
SIR ERNIE said:
No, I wouldn't describe Corbyn as 'anti-peace'.

Just anti-Britain.
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Served his constituency for 30 years and was untarnished by the expenses scandal. A man who really understands his civic duty.
Perhaps he should have took backhanders to lobby on behalf oil companies and foreign energy providers like some of our other 'patriotic' MPs?
 
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westcountry_skyblue

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,869
Joy Division said:
I guess you are happy with the recent terrorist attacks in the last few weeks. Shameful.
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I detest all terrorists,But Antifa and the placard holders SWP will be out protesting as normal just like in last years Brexit vote.
 
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Astute

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,870
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Corbyn never aided or armed the IRA. Right now though our Prime Minister is arming an extremist Islamic dictatorship committing war crimes with our weapons. Might I suggest she get a question on that just once?
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Corbyn has always been happy to praise them and refuses to ever say anything against them. Would you like to explain why you see that as PM material?

You can question May as much as you want. BTW do you think that I will be voting Tory?
 

Astute

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,871
clint van damme said:
he must be doing something right, the right wing press have really started gunning for him in the last few days.

I'm sure those 5 billionaire media moguls have the best interest of the British electorate at heart.
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Who else could they aim at? This is the worse general election in my lifetime. I'm hoping that the Monster Raving Loony Party have a candidate where I live.
 

Astute

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,872
clint van damme said:
Served his constituency for 30 years and was untarnished by the expenses scandal. A man who really understands his civic duty.
Perhaps he should have took backhanders to lobby on behalf oil companies and foreign energy providers like some of our other 'patriotic' MPs?
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You missed out about praising IRA members who committed murder of innocent people.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,873
Astute said:
Who else could they aim at? This is the worse general election in my lifetime. I'm hoping that the Monster Raving Loony Party have a candidate where I live.
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they could try aiming at the truth with some balanced coverage for once.
 

skyblueinBaku

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,874
Astute said:
Who else could they aim at? This is the worse general election in my lifetime. I'm hoping that the Monster Raving Loony Party have a candidate where I live.
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They have. He or she is called the Labour Party candidate.
 

skybluedan

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,875
clint van damme said:
not until Christmas Dan, you've got loads of time to gen up on who to vote for.
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It's quite long eh , they should do it in the summer so no one has to go out in the cold, or can you vote by text or email now like?
 
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torchomatic

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,876
Astute said:
Sounds like her and Corbyn should belong to the same party.
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Grendel

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,877
Brylowes said:
No not entirely, but it will go some considerable way towards it, shutting down
Tax avoidance schemes that allow some of our wealthiest celebrities and sports
Stars to get away with paying next to nothing.
The raising of income tax for people earning £80000 or more, as well as business
Rates and taxes raised by an invigorated economy, bought about by more money
In people's pockets, and a general feeling we've emerged from under a stinking
Black cloud after 7 years.
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Remind me how much borrowing is planned under Corbynomics?
 

Astute

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,878
clint van damme said:
they could try aiming at the truth with some balanced coverage for once.
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He has been questioned on TV about it on the run up to the election. He refused to say anything that might upset anyone. That was when I decided that he wasn't getting my vote.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,879
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Corbyn never aided or armed the IRA. Right now though our Prime Minister is arming an extremist Islamic dictatorship committing war crimes with our weapons. Might I suggest she get a question on that just once?
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No he just labelled murderees heroes.
 

torchomatic

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,880
clint van damme said:
he must be doing something right, the right wing press have really started gunning for him in the last few days.

I'm sure those 5 billionaire media moguls have the best interest of the British electorate at heart.
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Astute

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,881
skyblueindorset said:
They have. He or she is called the Labour Party candidate.
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He is a decent bloke here. Spoke to him this morning. He has gone against party policy before for the good of the local people.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,882
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You can usually spot me in the City Arms sporting a Che Guevara shirt with a copy of Stalinist literature and a vanilla latte. Come over and say hello.
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Sadly after hiked corporation taxes, massively escalating interest rates and a hike in the minimum wage it may be out of business tomorrow.
 

Astute

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,883
torchomatic said:
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Is Dianne Abbott your next target? Don't worry you can come out with the truth about her.
 

Joy Division

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,884
Astute said:
Corbyn has always been happy to praise them and refuses to ever say anything against them. Would you like to explain why you see that as PM material?
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What do you mean by always happy to praise them?
 

Astute

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,885
Joy Division said:
What do you mean by always happy to praise them?
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Would you call IRA members brave?
 

Joy Division

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,886
Grendel said:
Sadly after hiked corporation taxes, massively escalating interest rates and a hike in the minimum wage it may be out of business tomorrow.
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Perhaps with the higher minimum wage then normal people can afford to spend a bit and keep it open
 
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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,887
Joy Division said:
What do you mean by always happy to praise them?
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Clearly condemning violence on all sides isn't good enough...
 

Astute

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,888
Deleted member 5849 said:
Clearly condemning violence on all sides isn't good enough...
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Show me where he has condemned the IRA for anything?
 

Joy Division

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,889
Astute said:
Would you call IRA members brave?
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No.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 7, 2017
  • #1,890
Astute said:
You missed out about praising IRA members who committed murder of innocent people.
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that's all everyone keeps throwing about, it's a spurious story, (I think it's been twisted by the right wing media) but if you can't get past it then that's fair enough.
I'm interested in the here and now. The current terrorist threat are being appeased and employed by the current government and funded by their friends in the gulf.
When senior police officers tried to warn her of the effects of cuts May told them they were scare mongering.
The economy is struggling badly.
Education is in a mess and class sizes are due to increase in September despite tory pledges to give all children a good start in life, it will be worse come September 2018 after the next round of cuts.
Nurses are on the same money now as 2009 equating to a pay decrease in real terms, May will implement the recommendations of the Naylor report if returned to number 10 which will spell the end of the NHS but it's safe in her hands apparently.
The tories are the party of the working family yet more and more working people are using food banks despite millionaire ian duncan smiths assertion that a family can live on 7 pound a day.
Brexit will be lead by May and Boris, both have proven to be brilliant in a back stabbing contest, pretty shit at everything else.
These issues, rightly or wrongly, are of more of a concern to me.
 
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