Ian1779
Well-Known Member
You think we will have control over the Brexit terms...
27 vs 1 suggests we'll be told what we are getting.
LOL, nothing about sorting out BREXIT. Talk about evading the real issue.
Nothing about defence either.
Labour have to make it an election about the NHS and Education if they want any chance of winning.
Labours only chance of winning is hiding Corbyn in a bunker and hoping for some kind of Designated Survivor scenario. We're fucked. At least Corbs will be gone sooner rather than later. May must be really pissed off with her MPs to waste him so early.
Corbyn will always now have the membership behind him. He will either stay or hand over to the IRA sympathiser McDonnell - labour is finished.
You wish. This helps as he'll be challenged before the conference for sure and hopefully enough of the trots and ideologues will have fucked off or woken up to vote for someone else. The left have been shit at organising in the party, they won't get the McDonnell amendment through conference any time soon and Corbyn won't survive a challenge after a GE loss, he was at 50/50 not so long ago with the membership. Labour will be in the low 100s, Tories will have a ridiculous majority for 5 years, but we can start rebuilding. Watch out 2027.
Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't know you were in the prime minister's inner circle.
Suppose you'll convieniently ignore that the national debt has rocketed since 2010. Add to that the Tories turning an NHS surplus into eye-watering debt over 6 years and you have the Tory master plan...
Keep the rich rich - fuck the poor. Then blame the immigrants.
Aww I like Grendel he never says anything bad about meThe only chance labour have is to remove Corbyn he is about as electable as Grendel
Aww I like Grendel he never says anything bad about me
You sound like the Socialist Worker fan I once heard on a street corner in Edinburgh. He was shouting "The recession isn't Labour's fault; it was created by the Tories." I guess at least there is a grain of truth somewhere in what you have written, whereas he was just completely lying. I believe you know what you write is disingenuous - gone through the socialist fact filter and come out the other end as something entirely misleading that people that don't know what has actually happened may believe. Ah politics, gotta smile else I'd cry.
Go research and then come back and tell me if either of those facts are wrong.
I don't need to research, I already know which facts you have taken and mangled up. I'm going to work now, will reply fully this evening.
May is too scared to go on live TV - will you accept a pre-recorded effort?For me, the deciding factor will be which leader can produce the loudest, stinkiest farts live on TV. I mean, May looks like she has some absolute belters up her sleeve, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Corbyn or Farron give it a good go, potentially might even see a shart!
May is too scared to go on live TV - will you accept a pre-recorded effort?
Good god really? PM too scared for live public speaking on TV but capable of handling PMQ's every week from a far more informed audience and meeting regularly with heads of state from around the globe? You may not like her, but she'll make small work of Corbyn on a live debate.
Her performances at PMQ's haven't been great to say the least. Find it interesting watching PMQs live and following social media then watching how the narrative gets changed by the media so by the time you hit the 6 o'clock news and mass consumption of the days events you often get a very selective version of events.Really? She's regularly had her arse handed to her at PMQ's as she has no answers other than cheap insults.
Again all the minor parties were included last time at the behest of Cameron as he didn't want to go head to head with milibandI have my view on the selective audience but all the lefties I know argue they're loaded the other way, so perhaps that is about perspective. What is certain though is that they are either loaded questions given in advance so the speech writers (in all parties) can give the media a couple of sound-bites, sometimes with humour, to take away and print. They will direct answers toward the one with the question, usually from a socially deprived background so they look caring and keep referring to the name in answer to unrelated questions as if they were besties. All fairly pointless though, particularly as they insist on representation from all sides and waste airspace on Plaid Cymru, SNP, Green and UKIP etc. It should be main parties only (I'd still include LD in that).
You wish. This helps as he'll be challenged before the conference for sure and hopefully enough of the trots and ideologues will have fucked off or woken up to vote for someone else. The left have been shit at organising in the party, they won't get the McDonnell amendment through conference any time soon and Corbyn won't survive a challenge after a GE loss, he was at 50/50 not so long ago with the membership. Labour will be in the low 100s, Tories will have a ridiculous majority for 5 years, but we can start rebuilding. Watch out 2027.
You sound like the Socialist Worker fan I once heard on a street corner in Edinburgh. He was shouting "The recession isn't Labour's fault; it was created by the Tories." I guess at least there is a grain of truth somewhere in what you have written, whereas he was just completely lying. I believe you know what you write is disingenuous - gone through the socialist fact filter and come out the other end as something entirely misleading that people that don't know what has actually happened may believe. Ah politics, gotta smile else I'd cry.
Apparently now if you care about having some kind of society and infrastructure in the future for your children or indeed for yourself in old age - you somehow become a leftie socialist terrorist.In fairness, it's true. Only a couple of quick google searches will find you plenty of evidence to support what Ian has posted.
Mussolini would be a bit far left for youClive Lewis personality wise wouldn't be a bad shout, but his politics are a bit too far left, certainly for me anyway.
Apparently now if you care about having some kind of society and infrastructure in the future for your children or indeed for yourself in old age - you somehow become a leftie socialist terrorist.
Mussolini would be a bit far left for you
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