Otis
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Yup, that's the one.
Yup, that's the one.Was one his bumbling contradiction of his own policies while visiting Northern Ireland? Even by Boris’ standards it was especially non coherent, bumbling, rambling.
The child benefit system changes is a joke. You can have just one working parent earning £50k pa, a single wage in the household and your child benefit stopped. Yet, you can have both parents earning £49k pa each a combined income of £98k they would keep their child benefits.My household has lost more than £20 per month in tax credits in recent times and our combined household income wouldn’t put us in the £80k tax bracket. People earning over £80k a year will have to do what people earning under £80K a year have to do when government policies take money of them. Suck it up. Snowflakes.
Come on they just dont want to bandy about figures...It’s already starting to smell like the 2017 Conservative campaign. Attack Labour’s plans while not being able to explain their own. Both Sajid Javid and Kwasi Kwarteng have been on TV this morning banging on about how they’ve done their sums on Labour’s manifesto (worth pointing out that it’s not published yet) and it doesn’t add up yet neither could confirm the costs of their own manifesto because they haven’t put the work into adding it up. Just waiting for someone to say magic money tree now.
Come on they just dont want to bandy about figures...
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The child benefit system changes is a joke. You can have just one working parent earning £50k pa, a single wage in the household and your child benefit stopped. Yet, you can have both parents earning £49k pa each a combined income of £98k they would keep their child benefits.
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The child benefit system changes is a joke. You can have just one working parent earning £50k pa, a single wage in the household and your child benefit stopped. Yet, you can have both parents earning £49k pa each a combined income of £98k they would keep their child benefits.
It's because we all know that the only way children should be brought up is by a daddy and mummy at home. They never look at the many different circumstances and things that could happen that stop that being the case and just say single parents are assumed to be irresponsible even though many of them are absolutely stoic troopers who put up with more pressures than middle class mums living off hubby could ever imagine and would crumble under the strain.
Well no it was done that way as it’s the only way the revenue said they’d be able to administer it. Anyone earning £50,000 should not get a free handout anyway - the whole system is bizarre and should be scrapped
So you are still not going to make a comment about when I caught you out but you continue to make more stories up. Says it all to me.???
Have fun going around in circles and making up straw man arguments. I'll go outside.
Bit if the woman isn't working while bringing up kids and her husband earns over 60k....which is the point where no benefit is paid.....she still has to claim child benefit to become entitled to her old age pension. The Tories recently put the amount of years up. Then she has to say she doesn't want the money or pay it back at the end of the year.The child benefit system changes is a joke. You can have just one working parent earning £50k pa, a single wage in the household and your child benefit stopped. Yet, you can have both parents earning £49k pa each a combined income of £98k they would keep their child benefits.
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Including a tax cut?Anyone earning £50,000 should not get a free handout anyway
TBF I used the number Eastwoods Dustbin used in the original conversation. I appreciate that you could use a number that contradicts it hence I said I understand where you’re coming from but the reality is to lose enough profit from the difference to negate employing someone full time on the higher rate of minimum wage you’re talking of a profit over £150k. I also believe that labour in line with their last manifesto will have a lower rate for smaller businesses anyway.
Ah yes food banks. Ah yes zero hour contracts.
I wonder why you never attack the strongest economy in Europe by far for their use of food banks. And you won't have a go at Labour for employing people on zero hour contracts.
Germany’s hidden hunger: On the breadline in Europe’s richest country
Firstly this comment is about the UK... I’ll be honest I was not aware about the usage of food banks in other countries - I’m interested in why this exists in the 5/6th richest country in the world in the 21st Century.
Secondly - my issue with zero hours contracts is the notion that a) counting these as gainful employment and removing people from the jobless total is a nonsense b) the assumption that because of the increasing ‘working’ population that tax revenue is increasing. Have Labour been in government for the last 9 years where this reporting has become commonplace?
France and Germany both have right wing or centrist at best political parties in governmentIt’s claimed Food bank useage is much higher in France and Germany. As labour pledge to remove this in the uk would you like to explain how when wonderful social democratic EU countries have failed?
France and Germany both have right wing or centrist at best political parties in government
I thought you just said that food bank usage was higher there?Which seems to be working well especially for Germany?
I thought you just said that food bank usage was higher there?
im talking about the general economy. Corbyn and co say they want to stop what they portray as a unique British disease. The most successful economic powerhouse in Europe it seems has a worse issue - which suggests to me a rather fringe socialist government in the UK will do nothing to resolve it
Whether it is a uniquely British disease or not... it is shameful in the 21st Century.
i suggests you get out a bit more - poverty in the uk is a land of luxury to many places I’ve travelled
im talking about the general economy. Corbyn and co say they want to stop what they portray as a unique British disease. The most successful economic powerhouse in Europe it seems has a worse issue - which suggests to me a rather fringe socialist government in the UK will do nothing to resolve it
So you question why it happens in the UK because we are seen as a rich nation but what about Germany? A very rich country. They don't need to borrow to invest. They have the money sitting there. They haven't had a population boom like us. Their population has stayed steady. So their population has somewhere to live. Yes their infrastructure needs updating in places but at least it is there.Firstly this comment is about the UK... I’ll be honest I was not aware about the usage of food banks in other countries - I’m interested in why this exists in the 5/6th richest country in the world in the 21st Century.
Secondly - my issue with zero hours contracts is the notion that a) counting these as gainful employment and removing people from the jobless total is a nonsense b) the assumption that because of the increasing ‘working’ population that tax revenue is increasing. Have Labour been in government for the last 9 years where this reporting has become commonplace?
Sounds like you are trying to prove a point.So you're point is that in general the German economy is doing well under a right wing govt but they have larger poverty because food bank usage than here amongst other things. Surely this shows how a Conservative model would likely look to work in this country, but we'd be on our own. According to you Germany has another 26 nations help it along.
I don't believe you to be a heartless individual but it's basically suggesting that you want the businesses and rich to do well on the pretence that it will be good for all due to job creation etc, when this shows that isn't going to be the case. Why do you want that here? Maybe you need to question the validity of the model a bit more?
is that the time when we had a massively government subsidised car industry? That went well when people realised it couldn’t last forever.
Sounds like you are trying to prove a point.
Left wing. Right wing. No wings. Who cares? It is what a government does that matters. Having a government that borrows too much is bad for the future. This money has to be paid back. When paying it back there is less money to spend. So more is borrowed. Austerity happens. Look at the austerity around Europe. These countries owe too much. Credit ratings go down. It costs more to borrow. Even more is needed to pay back what is owed.
What we need is a party that treats everyone fairly. The Tories do austerity. It pays back what Labour spend. Labour spends to make up for the austerity of the Tory years. The Tories do austerity. It pays back what Labour spends. Labour spends to make up for the austerity of the Tory years...........
So who pays the debt that we run up? Yes the next generations.That’s simply not true. There’s an optimal debt and deficit level and it’s not zero. Macroeconomics is not personal economics. The world could end with us in debt and that’s fine. We don’t pass it on to U.K. Jr.
What matters is growth outstripping interest so the size of debt compared to GDP falls. You cut back government intervention when the private market can pick up the slack. Not when it’s sluggish or you kill growth.
Not biting. You're clearly admitting defeat.Says the man asking the government to subsidise his business or he won’t hire people
It is going to be a strange one. It could end up being the one who gets voted in is the leader who worries us the least. And now the tactical voting talks are underway.Both parties are making a right cock up of things... still predict a comfortable Conservative majority though
It is going to be a strange one. It could end up being the one who gets voted in is the leader who worries us the least. And now the tactical voting talks are underway.
I now wouldn't even want to bet your money on the result.
And the remain parties in Wales. The Greens will keep their seat.Apparently there have been talks about a pact between the brexit party and conservatives
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