General Election 2019 thread (9 Viewers)

covcity4life · Nov 6, 2019

its gonna be like american political race. people voting as if they are supporting their football team

tories could say we will cut wages in half and people would still vote as brexit means brexit and looney left media biased snowflakes are trying to stop the will of the people blah blah

shmmeee · Nov 6, 2019

covcity4life said:
its gonna be like american political race. people voting as if they are supporting their football team

tories could say we will cut wages in half and people would still vote as brexit means brexit and looney left media biased snowflakes are trying to stop the will of the people blah blah

Spot on. I hate that we’ve imported their culture war bollocks

Grendel · Nov 6, 2019

stupot07 said:
The tories are having a mare this last 24 hours

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Are they? Not sure on what but it will be interesting to see if the gap thats widening can be closed
General Election 2019 latest polls shows big lead for Tories | Metro News

djr8369 · Nov 6, 2019

shmmeee said:
Spot on. I hate that we’ve imported their culture war bollocks

The sooner that sort of shit is seen for the nonsense it is the better. Utterly toxic and detrimental to society. People latch onto it frighteningly easily.

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Deleted member 5849 · Nov 6, 2019

Grendel said:
Are they? Not sure on what but it will be interesting to see if the gap thats widening can be closed
General Election 2019 latest polls shows big lead for Tories | Metro News

Polling day could come down to if people really end up voting Lib Dem, or suck it up and vote Labour in the end.

Astute · Nov 6, 2019

clint van damme said:
so you're buying shares. The scheme suggested by Labour is to be given them which is the sort of scheme I was in.
We could cash them in tax free but there were caveats which are too numerous to list.
I think even buying shares is a great idea, the more employees have a vested interested in a company's success the better as far as I'm concerned.

Sell before 5 years and they become taxable. Sell before 3 years and you lose your free shares.

Grendel · Nov 6, 2019

Deleted member 5849 said:
Polling day could come down to if people really end up voting Lib Dem, or suck it up and vote Labour in the end.

many Lib Dem voters have more alignment with the Tories

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 6, 2019

Grendel said:
many Lib Dem voters have more alignment with the Tories

Not necessarily the ones who are causing the bump atm.

Grendel · Nov 6, 2019

Deleted member 5849 said:
Not necessarily the ones who are causing the bump atm.

Well one thing is for certain if these polls are accurate and that’s the Brexit Party is marginalising big time and if that trend carries on the Tory position will be hugely strengthened

skybluetony176 · Nov 6, 2019

Grendel said:
many Lib Dem voters have more alignment with the Tories

Traditional Tories maybe but not the blukip brexit cult it’s now morphed into.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Nov 6, 2019

Grendel said:
many Lib Dem voters have more alignment with the Tories

Economically yes, but in terms of social policy I'd say they're more left leaning. This time round the difference between the two could be stance on Brexit.

covcity4life · Nov 6, 2019

djr8369 said:
The sooner that sort of shit is seen for the nonsense it is the better. Utterly toxic and detrimental to society. People latch onto it frighteningly easily.

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i hope the world will figure out the negativt yof social media scare mongering one day, myself and many others are just no longer bothering with SM, but so so many are born into it and dont know any other world. kids need to be taught by parents that jsut cos its on internet dont make it a fact so research before you get angry or start fearing etc

shmmeee · Nov 6, 2019

covcity4life said:
i hope the world will figure out the negativt yof social media scare mongering one day, myself and many others are just no longer bothering with SM, but so so many are born into it and dont know any other world. kids need to be taught by parents that jsut cos its on internet dont make it a fact so research before you get angry or start fearing etc

It’s so hard to teach. I saw it rise while I was an IT teacher to the point where I’d be having ridiculous arguments with 13 year olds about shit like whether the PS5 has been released yet, or you could see the pedos watching you through your phone app all because they saw it on Facebook and “are you calling my Nan a liar?”

All respect for knowledge had gone and everyone thinks all they need is Google to know as much as people who have spent their life studying something. Fuck knows how you get this stuff across, I never managed it. Like homework those that don’t need to learn it will listen and take it on board and those that do are so blind with ignorance they don’t learn it.

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 6, 2019

Minister quits in aide's rape trial 'sabotage' row

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 6, 2019

shmmeee said:
It’s so hard to teach. I saw it rise while I was an IT teacher to the point where I’d be having ridiculous arguments with 13 year olds about shit like whether the PS5 has been released yet, or you could see the pedos watching you through your phone app all because they saw it on Facebook and “are you calling my Nan a liar?”

All respect for knowledge had gone and everyone thinks all they need is Google to know as much as people who have spent their life studying something. Fuck knows how you get this stuff across, I never managed it. Like homework those that don’t need to learn it will listen and take it on board and those that do are so blind with ignorance they don’t learn it.

Teaching sciences misconceptions like that can be got rid of by experiments and demos. Trying to disprove a random claim on the internet is harder. Combine it with demands to be spoon fed and voila

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 6, 2019

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Teaching sciences misconceptions like that can be got rid of by experiments and demos. Trying to disprove a random claim on the internet is harder. Combine it with demands to be spoon fed and voila

Critical thinking has gone AWOL. Asked one group what they thought about something, the answer was 'what do you want us to think?'

Give me strength!

SBAndy · Nov 6, 2019

covcity4life said:
i hope the world will figure out the negativt yof social media scare mongering one day, myself and many others are just no longer bothering with SM, but so so many are born into it and dont know any other world. kids need to be taught by parents that jsut cos its on internet dont make it a fact so research before you get angry or start fearing etc

I’ve largely stopped bothering with social media as well. Drives me crazy that some peoples’ lives are governed by it, and find it quite embarrassing that grown adults struggle with independent thought when presented with a quote and a picture on Facebook - though I am a born cynic so it leads me to question almost everything.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Nov 6, 2019

SBAndy said:
I’ve largely stopped bothering with social media as well. Drives me crazy that some peoples’ lives are governed by it, and find it quite embarrassing that grown adults struggle with independent thought when presented with a quote and a picture on Facebook - though I am a born cynic so it leads me to question almost everything.

For me it was the most important lesson I learned in history - look at the source and see if it might have bias.

skybluetony176 · Nov 6, 2019

Vote Tory, vote to reverse their cuts packaged as a gift. Boris Johnson's speech fact-checked

covcity4life · Nov 6, 2019

Bad time to say i am thinkin(seriously) of becoming an IT teacher? Lol

Astute · Nov 6, 2019

Corbyns deputy, Tom Watson, has just resigned.

Ian1779 · Nov 6, 2019

shmmeee said:
I guarantee anyone using Marxist as an insult has never read any economics let alone any Marx.

I reckon you could also guarantee they can’t even spell bourgeoisie - never mind know what it is.

chiefdave · Nov 6, 2019

Astute said:
Corbyns deputy, Tom Watson, has just resigned.

Think that's probably good new for Labour having him gone without the mess of deselecting. All he seemed to do why try and stir up trouble and undermine Corbyn. Bet there will be a lot of Labour members hoping a few others follow him.

Shame so many people are leaving Labour and Conservative and exiting politics. I had hoped that one good thing that might come of the mess we're in would be ending up with a roughly equal split between right, centre and left parties.

shmmeee · Nov 6, 2019

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Teaching sciences misconceptions like that can be got rid of by experiments and demos. Trying to disprove a random claim on the internet is harder. Combine it with demands to be spoon fed and voila

It’s about teaching information literacy and critical thinking. Which is really hard against family ties.

I mean I was stood there once with blow out pics of phone assemblies showing there’s no cameras there, explaining I am literally employed to explain how technology works and I’m telling them that what they say is impossible. Looked at the sources and how we couldn’t find reliable ones. Why people share nonsense. Still at the end half of them were unmoved on their belief. Because someone they like and respect posted it.

Fact is it’s harder and harder to determine fact from fiction without a significant amount of base knowledge most people don’t possess. Like explaining to a flat earther how it’s impossible without them understanding basic maths. We’ve never successfully taught this stuff en masse and just dumped information overload on humanity without warning.

Combine that shit with global warming and I have real trouble seeing a way forward as a species.

shmmeee · Nov 6, 2019

Astute said:
Corbyns deputy, Tom Watson, has just resigned.

Surprised me that. The man who took down Blair calling it quits. Seemed to lose a lot of political capital from the Westminster paedo thing.

Lot in Labour will be happy, I think the party should have a place for politicians like Watson, but he pulled some ridiculous shit at times.

SkyBlueCharlie9 · Nov 6, 2019

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Hahahahaha the labour party, the gift that keeps on giving

Imagine Diane Abbott in charge of them

You are a racist fuckwit. Leave the woman alone.

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 6, 2019

shmmeee said:
It’s about teaching information literacy and critical thinking. Which is really hard against family ties.

I mean I was stood there once with blow out pics of phone assemblies showing there’s no cameras there, explaining I am literally employed to explain how technology works and I’m telling them that what they say is impossible. Looked at the sources and how we couldn’t find reliable ones. Why people share nonsense. Still at the end half of them were unmoved on their belief. Because someone they like and respect posted it.

Fact is it’s harder and harder to determine fact from fiction without a significant amount of base knowledge most people don’t possess. Like explaining to a flat earther how it’s impossible without them understanding basic maths. We’ve never successfully taught this stuff en masse and just dumped information overload on humanity without warning.

Combine that shit with global warming and I have real trouble seeing a way forward as a species.

I teach about the evidence for man-made climate change. Man burns fossil fuels. Fossil fuels release CO2. CO2 traps heat from the Sun. Earth gets warmer.

That sequence of events is easily understood by schoolchildren but not by the leader of the free world or the University of Life graduates we have on here.

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 6, 2019

covcity4life said:
Bad time to say i am thinkin(seriously) of becoming an IT teacher? Lol

Run the other way while you can

shmmeee · Nov 6, 2019

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I teach about the evidence for man-made climate change. Man burns fossil fuels. Fossil fuels release CO2. CO2 traps heat from the Sun. Earth gets warmer.

That sequence of events is easily understood by schoolchildren but not by the leader of the free world or the University of Life graduates we have on here.

It’s understood by some schoolchildren. Not the majority by the time they reach adulthood. This stuff was taught when I was at school (Go Captain Planet) and look at us now.

My mate has literally just posted a cool science YouTube video in our group chat with “why don’t they teach this stuff at school”. Science!?

You’d be amazed how little some people take in over the long term.

Liquid Gold · Nov 6, 2019

Who cares if jobs leave the country. Fuck business.

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 6, 2019

shmmeee said:
It’s understood by some schoolchildren. Not the majority by the time they reach adulthood. This stuff was taught when I was at school (Go Captain Planet) and look at us now.

My mate has literally just posted a cool science YouTube video in our group chat with “why don’t they teach this stuff at school”. Science!?

You’d be amazed how little some people take in over the long term.

I do like to think at least a handful of people remember what I teach them by the time they sod off

SkyBlueCharlie9 · Nov 6, 2019

SkyBlueDom26 said:
General election: Johnson compares Corbyn to Stalin over his 'hatred' of the wealthy

Boris is right again, Corbyn would be a disaster and would piss off all the rich corporations therefore losing jobs and putting people out of work

Corporations like McDonalds, Amazon, Sports Direct etc. bringing high quality,w paid, long term secure jobs to the UK? Corbyn has put forward the notion of a Green Industrial Revolution - it's a bold vision for the nation (that could well work) but what vision are the Tories offering? We need much much more than City Investment bankers. They have also failed abysmally on providing affordable homes and just shoved billions of free cash to their land owning farming chums, and volume house building scumbags!

Astute · Nov 6, 2019

Liquid Gold said:
Who cares if jobs leave the country. Fuck business.

Good job. Because if Labour get in and raise tax like they promise jobs will go.

Astute · Nov 6, 2019

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I teach about the evidence for man-made climate change. Man burns fossil fuels. Fossil fuels release CO2. CO2 traps heat from the Sun. Earth gets warmer.

That sequence of events is easily understood by schoolchildren but not by the leader of the free world or the University of Life graduates we have on here.

And cows fart.

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 6, 2019

Astute said:
And cows fart.

Yup and the combination of forests being cleared for cattle combined with the methane resulting from their flatulence exacerbates the problem.

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