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Astute

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #981
shmmeee said:
I have. Again I’m not sure 21yo Muslim student holds stereotypical Muslim student views on Israel Palestine is that big of a story.

Sorry you’ll have to bark somewhere else. I don’t buy the “said something on social media” stories against any side.
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You don't? Will come back to this next time you comment on one.

It isn't the subject. It is the glorifying of violence. Exactly what you would rip a Tory to bits over. But she is Labour. So it is OK.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #982
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Hopefully it wont be a labour seat after the elections
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It will be. The seat has always been Labour since it started. It always has a very large majority. Makes me wonder why they parachuted her into it upsetting those who should have had a chance of the seat.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #983
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Hopefully it wont be a labour seat after the elections
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Yeah bring on the cuts
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #984
Astute said:
Exactly what you would rip a Tory to bits over.
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Well he dismissed this Tory advocating death to certain people, so I'd say it's pretty consistent Tories stand by candidate over Facebook post
 
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Astute

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #985
Deleted member 5849 said:
Well he dismissed this Tory advocating death to certain people, so I'd say it's pretty consistent Tories stand by candidate over Facebook post
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He shouldn't have done. There is no difference between someone sharing a joke and someone seriously glorifying violence.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #986
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yeah bring on the cuts
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Ahh yes the labour excuse for everything
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #987
Astute said:
He shouldn't have done.
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Ohhhh yes he should.

(This could go on a while)
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #988
shmmeee said:
Surprised to hear Keir Starmer quizzed about Ms Sultana on R4 this morning. I suspect if this doesn’t go away she’ll need replacing.
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What is the point of that. Would be amazed if he’s ever heard of her. Do they expect him to personally vet every candidate?

Lets be honest if we’re going to trawl through every tweet and post ever made by every candidate we’ll run out of people on all sides.

Sure pretty much everyone on here has made an off the cuff comment about a player / manager / council / Higgs / Wasps / SISU that wouldn’t look great if highlighted in isolation.
 

Astute

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #989
Deleted member 5849 said:
Ohhhh yes he should.

(This could go on a while)
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Is there a difference between a joke and a serious comment about glorifying violence?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #990
chiefdave said:
Lets be honest if we’re going to trawl through every tweet and post ever made by every candidate we’ll run out of people on all sides.
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This is the problem with it, and tbh Ms. Sultana has other reported views that she should be justifying, far more than this. But while this rumbles on, this is the conversation. Her answer wrt this particular tweet seems (to me, anyway!) to be perfectly mature. I would like to hear her answers on other issues too, however!
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #991
chiefdave said:
What is the point of that. Would be amazed if he’s ever heard of her. Do they expect him to personally vet every candidate?

Lets be honest if we’re going to trawl through every tweet and post ever made by every candidate we’ll run out of people on all sides.

Sure pretty much everyone on here has made an off the cuff comment about a player / manager / council / Higgs / Wasps / SISU that wouldn’t look great if highlighted in isolation.
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But how many of us have glorified violence?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #992
Astute said:
It will be. The seat has always been Labour since it started. It always has a very large majority. Makes me wonder why they parachuted her into it upsetting those who should have had a chance of the seat.
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Because thy can afford to because it's safe. They can get someone in they're confident will toe the line, vote along party lines etc. That's how so many of them that are largely incompetent get to such high positions - either brown-nosing or know where the bodies are buried. 'Rising star' rarely translates to 'most intelligent' or 'most sensible'.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #993
Sick Boy said:
Based on what?
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the voices in his head.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #994
clint van damme said:
the voices in his head.
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Or maybe his links to the IRA
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #995
Astute said:
You don't? Will come back to this next time you comment on one.

It isn't the subject. It is the glorifying of violence. Exactly what you would rip a Tory to bits over. But she is Labour. So it is OK.
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What even is “glorifying violence”. Do you mean supporting groups that use guerrilla warfare? Yes generally the left are on the side of the smaller side in wars, that’s the naive thing I was on about with Corbyn. IRA, Hamas, etc. And the right are on the side of the group bombing the shit out of people on an industrial scale.

It’s war. No one comes out of it morally clean. Using messy and violent conflicts to score political points is silly. Though frankly U.K. politicians weighing in on such conflicts is also silly.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #996
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Or maybe his links to the IRA
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You realise there former actual IRA members in the Tory party, working as councillors don’t you? We had a separatist movement within our country, it was shit and messy and most people are happy to see the back of it.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #997
Cummings bringing his shady social media strategy to the Tory campaign I see

 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #998
shmmeee said:
You realise there former actual IRA members in the Tory party, working as councillors don’t you? We had a separatist movement within our country, it was shit and messy and most people are happy to see the back of it.
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councillors aren’t potential prime ministers. This post screams of desperation
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #999
shmmeee said:
Cummings bringing his shady social media strategy to the Tory campaign I see

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Yeah but the truth is they can't answer things to the point, always swerve swerve swerve
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #1,000
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Yeah but the truth is they can't answer things to the point, always swerve swerve swerve
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says the man changing the topic
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #1,001
shmmeee said:
says the man changing the topic
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Labour-

Never answer questions with straight answers
Borrow Borrow Borrow
Debt Debt Debt
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #1,002
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Labour-

Never answer questions with straight answers
Borrow Borrow Borrow
Debt Debt Debt
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Tories -

Fuck pigs and the poor
Even more debt
Even more borrowing
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #1,003
shmmeee said:
Tories -

Fuck pigs and the poor
Even more debt
Even more borrowing
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Remind me who was at fault for the recession fool
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #1,004
Oh dear 4 years ago the labour candidate for Coventry South thought police were Tory sponsored thugs it seems. Another apology issued.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #1,005
Grendel said:
Oh dear 4 years ago the labour candidate for Coventry South thought police were Tory sponsored thugs it seems. Another apology issued.
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Hahahahaha the labour party, the gift that keeps on giving

Imagine Diane Abbott in charge of them
 

lifeskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #1,006
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Labour-

Never answer questions with straight answers
Borrow Borrow Borrow
Debt Debt Debt
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Isn’t that the same with most politicians?you are right re Labour politicians ducking the question but what about Gove today and Hancock at the end of last week? Gove didn’t answer one question and Hancock answered with the same nonsensical answer despite being pushed and pushed and pushed again.
In the interest of fairness let’s be honest...the majority are liars.

As for debt and borrow...all parties have found that magic money tree...all are making promises they have no intention of keeping. So again I don’t think you can just tar one party but all are at it.


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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #1,007
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Remind me who was at fault for the recession fool
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The world banking crisis recession? That will be the bank’s. Specifically but not exclusively in the US but that’s basically where it started with a toxic mortgage epidemic.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #1,008
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Remind me who was at fault for the recession fool
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Banks mostly. Or do you think Labour managed to turn the U.K. into such an economic powerhouse it caused a global crash?

And as I’ve shown before Labours response was so good it was hailed as world leading at the time.

You’re Welcome.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #1,009
SkyBlueDom26 said:
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Think your response bot is broken
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #1,010
skybluetony176 said:
The world banking crisis recession? That will be the bank’s. Specifically but not exclusively in the US but that’s basically where it started with a toxic mortgage epidemic.
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shmmeee said:
Think your response bot is broken
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So easy to wind up
 

Astute

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #1,011
Grendel said:
Oh dear 4 years ago the labour candidate for Coventry South thought police were Tory sponsored thugs it seems. Another apology issued.
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Certainly becoming a liability.

It is times like this when you find out if a dog with a red lead would get voted in to some seats. It has been a Labour seat since it started in the 50's.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #1,012
SkyBlueDom26 said:


So easy to wind up
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O....K....
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #1,013
SkyBlueDom26 said:


So easy to wind up
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It's easier to wind up people who actually take time and effort to formulate responses and try to understand the issues behind them.

Someone who doesn't think for themselves and just regurgitates shite they get fed less so...........Ignorance is bliss.

I'd rather be Triggered than Trigger.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #1,014
Astute said:
Certainly becoming a liability.

It is times like this when you find out if a dog with a red lead would get voted in to some seats. It has been a Labour seat since it started in the 50's.
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Sadly I think you could count the number of people who vote on anything other than national party performance on one hand. Not sure what the answer is. Even here we are all discussing the MPs for Uxbridge and Islington as if we can choose to elect them.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 5, 2019
  • #1,015
Ouch

Labour candidate says she would “celebrate” deaths of Tony Blair and Benjamin Netanyahu
 
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