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shmmeee

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,126
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I agree with you on the principle but on the whole there can be a myriad of reasons for failure to turnout.

To really make the point of dissatisfaction the only way you can truly do so is by having taken the time to go to the polling station to intentional not vote for anyone.

But spoiling your ballot isn't enough - like turnout spoiled ballots can be for a number of reasons rather than deliberate. It needs a "none of the above" option to really get a chance to show disaffection.
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It’s not fucking Strictly. If there really is no one you can vote for you should run. This “woe is me” business pisses me off. What people who say this mean is “I’m unable to compromise on my very niche weird political views that I know no one else shares”. It’s not the systems fault you can’t be arsed.
 
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Ricketts

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,127
theferret said:
Sultana, the Labour candidate in Coventry South, being a case in point. On Tuesday she was stood outside Willenhall Primary School heckling parents as they left saying the school would close if they didn't vote Labour on Thursday. Imagine someone as honourable as Cunningham doing that.

This candidate has a very murky past, and that she was parachuted in over local candidates is a disgrace.
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Is this first hand or social media rumour? If true it shows how low some will sink. They need to be held to account.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,128
theferret said:
Sultana, the Labour candidate in Coventry South, being a case in point. On Tuesday she was stood outside Willenhall Primary School heckling parents as they left saying the school would close if they didn't vote Labour on Thursday. Imagine someone as honourable as Cunningham doing that.

This candidate has a very murky past, and that she was parachuted in over local candidates is a disgrace.
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Agreed completely, said on threads elsewhere that I find that practice utterly abhorrent. Talk about building disenfranchisement.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,129
shmmeee said:
It’s not fucking Strictly. If there really is no one you can vote for you should run. This “woah is me” business pisses me off. What people who say this mean is “I’m unable to compromise on my very niche weird political views that I know no one else shares”. It’s not the systems fault you can’t be arsed.
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Get some help you dribbling lunatic
 
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ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,130
Some hilarious posts on social media already by the public and celebrities alike :smuggrin:
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,131
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Show some respect on Churchill’s name, how embarrassing
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Tell your man crush that. He’s a clown trying to tie himself to Churchill, fake hunch and all
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,132
fernandopartridge said:
Agreed completely, said on threads elsewhere that I find that practice utterly abhorrent. Talk about building disenfranchisement.
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Straight out of the Momentumite Big Book of how to piss off voters , that
 
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theferret

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,133
Ricketts said:
Is this first hand or social media rumour? If true it shows how low some will sink. They need to be held to account.
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Came from teachers at the school, most of whom will be voting Labour so no reason to make it up or exaggerate. Got a bit confrontational apparently.

Such a shame. Always liked Cunningham, met him once briefly, very decent and principled man.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,134
Grendel said:
Get some help you dribbling lunatic
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To be fair G he's got half a point, with you as MP we'd get to hear Wasps being slagged every week in Parliament...
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,135
So what's this about dogs at polling stations and people making a big deal about it?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,136
theferret said:
Came from teachers at the school, most of whom will be voting Labour so no reason to make it up or exaggerate. Got a bit confrontational apparently.

Such a shame. Always liked Cunningham, met him once briefly, very decent and principled man.
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His questions in Parliament always had an obvious focus on the city and not being made for general point scoring. Had the respect of Tory voters in the constituency without question
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,137
ccfc92 said:
So what's this about dogs at polling stations and people making a big deal about it?
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Just been to vote and their were 3 there.
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,138

Comrades?

People's Republic of Hackney?
 
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fellatio_Martinez

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,139
Dianne looks like she's hit the election day blue nun hard.

 
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ccfc92

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,140
clint van damme said:
Just been to vote and their were 3 there.
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I assume its just a #selfie #quirky #BorisWontLetUsHaveDogs but I didn't know if there was an actual reason it was trending
 

ccfc92

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,141
fellatio_Martinez said:
Dianne looks like she's hit the election day blue nun hard.

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She really is a social media gift.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,142
ccfc92 said:
I assume its just a #selfie #quirky #BorisWontLetUsHaveDogs but I didn't know if there was an actual reason it was trending
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Happens every time there's a vote. Its just people posting pictures of their dogs at their polling station, nothing more complicated than that.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,143
ccfc92 said:
I assume its just a #selfie #quirky #BorisWontLetUsHaveDogs but I didn't know if there was an actual reason it was trending
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I just took it that people had combined their evening dog walk with nipping out to vote.
One lady was stood outside with the pooch and when her husband came out she joined the queue behind me. Didn't think it was a gimmicky thing but I could be wrong
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,144
ccfc92 said:
So what's this about dogs at polling stations and people making a big deal about it?
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The internet loves pet pics, the Internet loves voting pics. That’s about it.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,145
shmmeee said:
It’s not fucking Strictly. If there really is no one you can vote for you should run. This “woe is me” business pisses me off. What people who say this mean is “I’m unable to compromise on my very niche weird political views that I know no one else shares”. It’s not the systems fault you can’t be arsed.
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You really are a boring person. You try to intellectualise everything in order to put yourself on a pedestal. You're so far up your own arse it's a wonder you don't disappear.
 
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ccfc92

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,146
shmmeee said:
The internet loves pet pics, the Internet loves voting pics. That’s about it.
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Or is it...

 

fellatio_Martinez

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,147
ccfc92 said:
So what's this about dogs at polling stations and people making a big deal about it?
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There has been a paw turn out.

 
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ccfc92

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,148
fellatio_Martinez said:
There has been a paw turn out.

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shmmeee

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,149
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
You really are a boring person. You try to intellectualise everything in order to put yourself on a pedestal. You're so far up your own arse it's a wonder you don't disappear.
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Whats intellectualising about that? The whole “oh they’re all shit” meme is boring and pointless. “Oh they’re all the same, nothing I do matters”. It’s just lazy. Sorry for believing in active participation in democracy on Election Day.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,150
shmmeee said:
Whats intellectualising about that? The whole “oh they’re all shit” meme is boring and pointless. “Oh they’re all the same, nothing I do matters”. It’s just lazy. Sorry for believing in active participation in democracy on Election Day.
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You mean sorry for being full of self indulgent bullshit.
 
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westcountry_skyblue

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,151
Grendel said:
Think it’s touch and go - I think around 325
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340 ish
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,152
fellatio_Martinez said:
Dianne looks like she's hit the election day blue nun hard.

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Christ's sake get her off
 
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ccfc92

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,153
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Christ's sake get her off
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Otis

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,154
ccfc92 said:
She really is a social media gift.
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Agree, but then we also have fridge hiding, phone taking, I paint buses and put them in crates, Johnson.

Neither are fit to be in government are they?
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,155
shmmeee said:
It’s not fucking Strictly. If there really is no one you can vote for you should run. This “woe is me” business pisses me off. What people who say this mean is “I’m unable to compromise on my very niche weird political views that I know no one else shares”. It’s not the systems fault you can’t be arsed.
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At what point did I say this is the option for me? I went into the booth today stuck between two options both of which I found far from ideal, but I still picked one.

More than that, I had spent quite a few days wondering if I should vote for a party I didn't really want to at all just in case it let in another party I didn't want even more. In the end I decided not because otherwise I'm voting because of what I definitely don't want rather than what I actually do want and that is fucking depressing.

People have every right to do so if they wish but all each of those votes does is marginalise the minor parties so the two main parties don't need to ask how good they can or need to be, just don't be as bad as the other lot - that is a poor fucking state of affairs to be in.

What's more, even if someone does decide to run we work on a constituency basis so at most you're going to be appealing to a very small number of people rather than a nationwide audience. Even if by some absolute miracle you got in on a broad manifesto (virtually all independent MP's are returned due to one local issue) what then? They've still only got one vote out of 650 in the commons and not party whips or whatever to drum up support for their proposals. It's like pissing in the sea - no-one will notice and it's already full of shit anyway.

My main issue in this election, and become increasingly so over the last few, is not the policies but the tone of the campaigning. The lies, bullshit, misinformation and bad blood from all sides. How does voting for any of them encourage that to change?

If the Tories win, as is most likely, and given the same tactics got Trump in in the US, all we're going to see is that escalating in future. There might be a party you think have conducted themselves well throughout the campaign but disagree with their policies - what then? Do you vote for them because of the way they presented themselves even though you know you're going to hate what they actually do?

The only way that will change is to have a choice ON THE BALLOT so the public en masse can show their dissatisfaction with the way politics overall is conducting itself. How else can the entire country turn round and say "we're fed up of all your bullshit" and make this shitfest clean up their act?

*rant ends*
 
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theferret

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,156
It's hard to know what to believe, I follow people from left and right on twitter but there are whispers suggesting it isn't going well for Labour. Just seen a tweet from journalist saying that Tories will get most votes and seats in Wales. Not sure where this comes from, I guess it's exit polls by the parties themselves. Could be bollocks. I reckon they'll be big regional variations tonight.
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,157
Otis said:
Agree, but then we also have fridge hiding, phone taking, I paint buses and put them in crates, Johnson.

Neither are fit to be in government are they?
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Not particularly, but I'm just enjoying the circus on social media to be honest.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,158
fellatio_Martinez said:
Dianne looks like she's hit the election day blue nun hard.

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Too many mojitos on the train home last night
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,159
theferret said:
It's hard to know what to believe, I follow people from left and right on twitter but there are whispers suggesting it isn't going well for Labour. Just seen a tweet from journalist saying that Tories will get most votes and seats in Wales. Not sure where this comes from, I guess it's exit polls by the parties themselves. Could be bollocks. I reckon they'll be big regional variations tonight.
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I'm seeing pictures of huge queues with lots of young people in the queues which is apparently go ing the Tories cause for concern

However, a lot of the photos don't state where they were taken. They could already be safe Labour seats.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,160
clint van damme said:
I'm seeing pictures of huge queues with lots of young people in the queues which is apparently go ing the Tories cause for concern

However, a lot of the photos don't state where they were taken. They could already be safe Labour seats.
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TBH I wouldn't put it past any of the parties (although one in particular springs to mind) in future to 'booth block' - send people in and just take ages filling in the form. Is there any actual stipulated time limit you can spend in the voting booth? Can the polling station officer actually kick you out before you've filled your ballot paper in?
 
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