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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,091
shmmeee said:
Total finger in the air numbers out my arse moment, I’m going: 23
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You've got 23 fingers in the air? Either you're from Norfolk or Diane Abbott/Phillip Hammond*

*delete as per political allegiance
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,092
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
You've got 23 fingers in the air? Either you're from Norfolk or Diane Abbott/Phillip Hammond*

*delete as per political allegiance
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I didn’t say they were all my fingers...
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,093
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,094
shmmeee said:
Total finger in the air numbers out my arse moment, I’m going: 23
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Hopefully more than that
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,095
shmmeee said:
I didn’t say they were all my fingers...
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Ah....I see. You're a psychopath who goes around dismembering people.

In which case:
Please ignore my insolence sir.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,096
SkyBlueDom26 said:
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Who took the shackles off the Manchester bomber?
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,097
SkyBlueDom26 said:
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How many stone ages were there?
 
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richnrg

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,098
shmmeee said:
How many stone ages were there?
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and is Rachel Welch in any of them?
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,099
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,100
Boris on women.

In a farewell piece in the Spectator marking his exit as editor, Johnson advised his successor that way to deal with a woman colleague giving you advice is to “just pat her on the bottom and send her on her way”.

Reporting for the Telegraph in 1996 he wrote an article about the Labour conference in Blackpool, which he devoted to reviewing the quality of “the hot totty” delegates who were present. He wrote: "time and again the 'Tottymeter' has gone off as a young woman delegate mounts the rostrum."

Johnson allegedly had a calendar of naked women on his desk while working at the Telegraph, despite complaints from women colleagues.

In 2005, while campaigning to be elected as a Conservative MP, Johnson said: "voting Tory will cause your wife to have bigger breasts".

In 2012, while hosting the London Olympics as mayor, Johnson told his readers of the "magnificent" experience of watching "semi-naked women playing beach volleyball ... glistening like wet otters."

Boris on LGBT+ people.

Johnson famously described gay men as “tank topped bum boys”.

In his book Friends, Voters, Countrymen, published in 2001, Johnson wrote: “If gay marriage was OK – and I was uncertain on the issue – then I saw no reason in principle why a union should not be consecrated between three men, as well as two men, or indeed three men and a dog.”

Johnson once attacked Labour’s opposition to Section 28, writing:

"Labour's appalling agenda, encouraging the teaching of homosexuality in schools, and all the rest of it."

While he was Mayor of London, he spoke about gay men taking their husbands “up the Arcelor,” a reference to the Arcelor Mittal observation tower in London’s Olympic Park.

When he became prime minister, Johnson faced a call to apologise from his own party’s LGBT+ group. He did not respond.

Boris on people of colour.

In 2002 in an article in the Telegraph Johnson described black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles”.

In 2018 Boris Johnson compared Muslim women to “bank robbers” and “‘letter boxes”. Tell MAMA reported that these comments were directly linked to a 375 per cent rise in anti-Muslim hate crime.

In 2000, Johnson wrote that a "bunch of black kids" made him “turn a hair”, saying “if that is racial prejudice, then I am guilty”. He claimed Macpherson's reforms were "just as wrong" as Enoch Powell (the MP infamous for his racist 'rivers of blood' speech). He also claimed a key reform to let victims and third parties define if something is racist – now the national standard for prosecutors – was "Orwellian stuff" from the "PC brigade".

Writing for The Spectator in 2002, Johnson defended colonialism and advocated Britain reinstating control over colonies in Africa. He said “the problem is not that we were once in charge, but that we are not in charge anymore." He wrote:

“The best fate for Africa would be if the old colonial powers, or their citizens, scrambled once again in her direction; on the understanding that this time they will not be asked to feel guilty.”

In 2016 Boris Johnson said Barack Obama had an “ancestral dislike” of the British Empire. After Obama removed a bust of Winston Churchill from the Oval office, Johnson wrote a column in The Sun in which he claimed the move was “a symbol of the part-Kenyan president’s ancestral dislike of the British Empire – of which Churchill had been such a fervent defender.”

A really, really long list of awful things Boris Johnson has said about women, LGBT+ people and people of colour

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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,101
stupot07 said:
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Show some respect on Churchill’s name, how embarrassing
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,102
stupot07 said:
Probably, but I think Boris might lose his seat. Only 5k majority.

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It still might not be enough anyway depending on the final situation in Northern Ireland. Only one Northern Ireland Party doesn’t take their seats and they’re on course to lose seats. It’s going to be interesting on how that one pans out as it will ultimately effect the number of seats the Tories need to form a government.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,103
shmmeee said:
How many stone ages were there?
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Eleventy.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,104
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Show some respect on Churchill’s name, how embarrassing
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Boris showed no respect for Churchills name hiding away from interviews and scrutiny, and the way he Churchills own treated his flesh and blood chucking Sir Nicholas Soames out the party.

It's no more embarrassing than the right wing propaganda shit you keep finding on Twitter and posting on here.

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richnrg

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,105
stupot07 said:
Boris on women.
In 2005, while campaigning to be elected as a Conservative MP, Johnson said: "voting Tory will cause your wife to have bigger breasts".
In 2012, while hosting the London Olympics as mayor, Johnson told his readers of the "magnificent" experience of watching "semi-naked women playing beach volleyball ... glistening like wet otters."
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Blimey! I was going to vote labour, but might vote Boris now.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,106
I don't buy this thing that you have to vote or it is your civic duty to.

It's like saying in every dictatorship there has to be a dictator and you need to vote for one,

Politicians etc now take turnout as a measurement of success for their policies and time in office.

If you don't like what is on offer in an election then just don't vote.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,107
Philosorapter said:
I don't buy this thing that you have to vote or it is your civic duty to.

It's like saying in every dictatorship there has to be a dictator and you need to vote for one,

Politicians etc now take turnout as a measurement of success for their policies and time in office.

If you don't like what is on offer in an election then just don't vote.
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I agree with you on the principle but on the whole there can be a myriad of reasons for failure to turnout.

To really make the point of dissatisfaction the only way you can truly do so is by having taken the time to go to the polling station to intentional not vote for anyone.

But spoiling your ballot isn't enough - like turnout spoiled ballots can be for a number of reasons rather than deliberate. It needs a "none of the above" option to really get a chance to show disaffection.
 

richnrg

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,108
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But spoiling your ballot isn't enough - like turnout spoiled ballots can be for a number of reasons rather than deliberate. It needs a "none of the above" option to really get a chance to show disaffection.
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how about a space where you can enter your preferred/suggested alternative candidate - i.e. add the name of anyone you want to be your MP
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,109
richnrg said:
how about a space where you can enter your preferred/suggested alternative candidate - i.e. add the name of anyone you want to be your MP
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To quote a Malcolm Tucker phrase: My left bollock with a smiley face attached to it would be better then some of the candidates for Coventry's next MPs.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,110
richnrg said:
how about a space where you can enter your preferred/suggested alternative candidate - i.e. add the name of anyone you want to be your MP
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Better still just draw a huge pair of tits.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,111
SkyBlueDom26 said:
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Might have known you follow that dickhead
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,112
Grendel said:
Why? So people with money are on holiday?
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So it is as easy as possible to vote. Registration also should be opt out. Unless you want to minimise turnout for some reason?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,113
SkyBlueDom26 said:
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And you call others scare mongers dear oh dear
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,114
Philosorapter said:
I don't buy this thing that you have to vote or it is your civic duty to.

It's like saying in every dictatorship there has to be a dictator and you need to vote for one,

Politicians etc now take turnout as a measurement of success for their policies and time in office.

If you don't like what is on offer in an election then just don't vote.
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Compulsory voting no. Opt out voting yes.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,115
Just done mine, it's a nightmare having to cross out all the ones you don't want.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,116
fernandopartridge said:
Might have known you follow that dickhead
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Everything he says is right
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,117
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Compulsory voting no. Opt out voting yes.
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I'd go for compulsory voting with a 'none of the above' option.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,118
SkyBlueDom26 said:
How many seats does every rekon boris will get with his majority then?
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Yes Dim, that’s nearly a sentence
 
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theferret

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,119
Philosorapter said:
To quote a Malcolm Tucker phrase: My left bollock with a smiley face attached to it would be better then some of the candidates for Coventry's next MPs.
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Sultana, the Labour candidate in Coventry South, being a case in point. On Tuesday she was stood outside Willenhall Primary School heckling parents as they left saying the school would close if they didn't vote Labour on Thursday. Imagine someone as honourable as Cunningham doing that.

This candidate has a very murky past, and that she was parachuted in over local candidates is a disgrace.
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,120
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Everything he says is right wing
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Corrected it for you.

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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,121
theferret said:
Sultana, the Labour candidate in Coventry South, being a case in point. On Tuesday she was stood outside Willenhall Primary School heckling parents as they left saying the school would close if they didn't vote Labour on Thursday. Imagine someone as honourable as Cunningham doing that.

This candidate has a very murky past, and that she was parachuted in over local candidates is a disgrace.
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It’s pretty infuriating. Cunningham must be disgusted.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,122
stupot07 said:
Boris on women.

In a farewell piece in the Spectator marking his exit as editor, Johnson advised his successor that way to deal with a woman colleague giving you advice is to “just pat her on the bottom and send her on her way”.

Reporting for the Telegraph in 1996 he wrote an article about the Labour conference in Blackpool, which he devoted to reviewing the quality of “the hot totty” delegates who were present. He wrote: "time and again the 'Tottymeter' has gone off as a young woman delegate mounts the rostrum."

Johnson allegedly had a calendar of naked women on his desk while working at the Telegraph, despite complaints from women colleagues.

In 2005, while campaigning to be elected as a Conservative MP, Johnson said: "voting Tory will cause your wife to have bigger breasts".

In 2012, while hosting the London Olympics as mayor, Johnson told his readers of the "magnificent" experience of watching "semi-naked women playing beach volleyball ... glistening like wet otters."

Boris on LGBT+ people.

Johnson famously described gay men as “tank topped bum boys”.

In his book Friends, Voters, Countrymen, published in 2001, Johnson wrote: “If gay marriage was OK – and I was uncertain on the issue – then I saw no reason in principle why a union should not be consecrated between three men, as well as two men, or indeed three men and a dog.”

Johnson once attacked Labour’s opposition to Section 28, writing:

"Labour's appalling agenda, encouraging the teaching of homosexuality in schools, and all the rest of it."

While he was Mayor of London, he spoke about gay men taking their husbands “up the Arcelor,” a reference to the Arcelor Mittal observation tower in London’s Olympic Park.

When he became prime minister, Johnson faced a call to apologise from his own party’s LGBT+ group. He did not respond.

Boris on people of colour.

In 2002 in an article in the Telegraph Johnson described black people as “piccaninnies” with “watermelon smiles”.

In 2018 Boris Johnson compared Muslim women to “bank robbers” and “‘letter boxes”. Tell MAMA reported that these comments were directly linked to a 375 per cent rise in anti-Muslim hate crime.

In 2000, Johnson wrote that a "bunch of black kids" made him “turn a hair”, saying “if that is racial prejudice, then I am guilty”. He claimed Macpherson's reforms were "just as wrong" as Enoch Powell (the MP infamous for his racist 'rivers of blood' speech). He also claimed a key reform to let victims and third parties define if something is racist – now the national standard for prosecutors – was "Orwellian stuff" from the "PC brigade".

Writing for The Spectator in 2002, Johnson defended colonialism and advocated Britain reinstating control over colonies in Africa. He said “the problem is not that we were once in charge, but that we are not in charge anymore." He wrote:

“The best fate for Africa would be if the old colonial powers, or their citizens, scrambled once again in her direction; on the understanding that this time they will not be asked to feel guilty.”

In 2016 Boris Johnson said Barack Obama had an “ancestral dislike” of the British Empire. After Obama removed a bust of Winston Churchill from the Oval office, Johnson wrote a column in The Sun in which he claimed the move was “a symbol of the part-Kenyan president’s ancestral dislike of the British Empire – of which Churchill had been such a fervent defender.”

A really, really long list of awful things Boris Johnson has said about women, LGBT+ people and people of colour

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Sad truth is most of his voters will agree with him. It’s really been the Top Gear Bloke election and that demographic will eat this stuff up.
 

Mild-Mannered Janitor

Kindest Bloke on CCFC / Maker of CCFC Dreams
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,123
SkyBlueDom26 said:
How many seats does every rekon boris will get with his majority then?
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12 is my guess
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,124
theferret said:
Sultana, the Labour candidate in Coventry South, being a case in point. On Tuesday she was stood outside Willenhall Primary School heckling parents as they left saying the school would close if they didn't vote Labour on Thursday. Imagine someone as honourable as Cunningham doing that.

This candidate has a very murky past, and that she was parachuted in over local candidates is a disgrace.
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Many not happy with her locally from what I understand. Parachuted in against CLP wishes, barely spoken to the membership and the campaign support has been shocking. I asked to deliver leaflets to help and there weren’t any!

Still better than Mattie Haven or whatever her name is though.
 

lifeskyblue

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  • Dec 12, 2019
  • #6,125
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Show some respect on Churchill’s name, how embarrassing
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Not disrespectful of Churchill....just shows the gap in ability and integrity between one of our greatest PMs and mr Johnson.


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