Weren't attempts at bringing the rent down knocked back?
So, if it isn't in the lease they need to be questioned about why they were going into assault mode in the media telling everybody it was a condition.
Then it would just turn out to be lies they made up to soften the blow of Wasps moving, at which point it needs to be figured out how they get away with openly lying every time they speak.
Like they say though, they can pretty much do whatever they want as "public opinion is on their side".
Hello darkness my old friend....
They were, but the point is still it’s on Sisu to sort it. I’m firmly of the belief that the Ricoh is too big for the club at the moment and we should’ve spent the last four years finding a suitable, affordable home instead of constant legal appeals.
I suspect both sides are guilty of playing chicken and losing TBF. Sisu thought no one would want the Ricoh and CCC thought Sisu would leave and someone reasonable would come in.
I mean really if you want to talk responsibility it’s McGinnity for pawning our share, then Sisu for throwing the option away. But we’re really in spilt milk territory here. And I’m not sure it helps going forward.
As I say, if it ain’t in the lease then they fucked up either intentionally or not and need to be held to account for that.
Well no, it's just that it's not as straight forward as "sort it" when trying to sort the high rent it was knocked back even before SISU.
Of course, it's one big game of poker. The trouble is one of them playing it is the local council who keep being found to be bare faced lying about things and getting cocky that they can do what they want because people hate SISU.
“The council” is a unanimous cross party group of people of course. Which usually suggests something that crosses party lines isn’t as simple as “someone’s lying”. Politics doesn’t work like that.
But again, regardless of how we feel CCFC is a private enterprise and not the responsibility of the taxpayer. Sisu knew the deal when they took us on and decided this was the best course of action. Multiple councils of different political hues have taken the same stance, why do you think that is? Do they all just hate CCFC and are a bunch of lying liars? What do we do with that information to help CCFC?
As I say, if it ain’t in the lease then they fucked up either intentionally or not and need to be held to account for that.
Absolutely. Kind words are worthless , particularly when uttered by a politician, unequivocal terms must be in a written contract.
If SISU believe CCFC are entitled to a permanent tenancy/rent deal shouldn't they be challenging this in the courts?
But what are SISU doing about securing an agreement to play next season, I find it disturbing that all we have is public pleas in program notes, that is not a proper business strategy.
Give it time!If SISU believe CCFC are entitled to a permanent tenancy/rent deal shouldn't they be challenging this in the courts?
Isn't Boddy trying to get Wasps to sit down and talk to do a deal and has spoken to them directly?
It's interesting that lying to tax payers and councillors before a vote is OK because they are a politician.
They don't like being questioned about it at all, that's clear to see.
No one said lying was OK, just to be expected by anyone who isn't utterly naive.
The council statement was after the return to the Ricoh.Not to open a can of worms, but it wasn’t the council that broke the secure tenancy the club had.
“The council” is a unanimous cross party group of people of course. Which usually suggests something that crosses party lines isn’t as simple as “someone’s lying”. Politics doesn’t work like that.
But again, regardless of how we feel CCFC is a private enterprise and not the responsibility of the taxpayer. Sisu knew the deal when they took us on and decided this was the best course of action. Multiple councils of different political hues have taken the same stance, why do you think that is? Do they all just hate CCFC and are a bunch of lying liars? What do we do with that information to help CCFC?
Why not let Anderson talk about his time here why has he been gagged?So why not let Anderson complete negotiations on the long term deal but say its can't be signed under current ownership with the legals ongoing?
For all we know when Anderson, shortly after leaving CCFC following Wasps walking out of talks, spoke of taking over a club he could have been talking about us "Which club? I can not say. Not a very big and well known team. There you can change little. A modest team for example in League One or League Two in England.".
Why not let Anderson talk about his time here why has he been gagged?
Is it because what has come out of the Club is shite.
The only good thing I have heard today is all the Manx Fans crying on how hard done by they have been and how shit their owners are......
To use one of Fishers favourite phrases its standard business practice. Pretty much any MD leaving any decent size company would be expect to sign a confidentiality agreement.Why not let Anderson talk about his time here why has he been gagged?
I completely agree but I'd also suggest that crowds at CRFC have been helped by Wasps. Those not happy at a London rugby club moving in are more likely to go and watch CRFC to support the genuine local team.
No one said lying was OK, just to be expected by anyone who isn't utterly naive.
You'll never know because he can't tell you.Which bits are shite that you mean?
If I let you off your Isle of Man slipup, will you tell us?You'll never know because he can't tell you.
I have heard a few things but.
I would not post them on here as all you get is, liar show us your proof or stop making stuff up.
Oh and before you all start replying I know Whats comming
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Slip up not meIf I let you off your Isle of Man slipup, will you tell us?
You aren't being fed rumors again are you? Pwkh up to his old tricks again?Slip up not me
TBF one of them has been mentioned on this board it is the detail that was shit/hushed up.
Well some of it is from the horses mouth.You aren't being fed rumors again are you? Pwkh up to his old tricks again?
What was shite that has been mentioned?
Well some of it is from the horses mouth.
It's not naive to expect elected officials and their officers to tell the truth. Indeed that's absolutely the minimum standard that should be accepted for anyone in public office.
Don't know him, don't believe I have ever seen or spoken to him.The Higgs Charity balloon man.
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Stop itLet's be honest... would you trust any of them?
That's why you may as well share it, tbh
lucky you! the guy is grade "A" arseholeDon't know him, don't believe I have ever seen or spoken to him.
I you say so, I expect less, I never at any point said or imply it is an acceptable standard.
As far as I can tell from speaking to the local government ombudsman there is no system in place for the electorate to even register a complaint about elected officials demonstrably lying to the electorate let alone any chance of them receiving any disciplinary action over it.If I deliberately and clearly misled a customer in this way, then I'd expect to be disciplined if not actually sacked. Councillors can seemingly make up whatever they want without censure - that doesn't sit well with me, regardless of my feelings towards SISU.
As far as I can tell from speaking to the local government ombudsman there is no system in place for the electorate to even register a complaint about elected officials demonstrably lying to the electorate let alone any chance of them receiving any disciplinary action over it.
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