Transfer Rumour Frank Onyeka (64 Viewers)

Ccfcisparks

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that's fair and I suppose a good player in that role would free whoever plays further fwd - Torp, Rudoni, Esse - to do what we need them to do. If that's what Onyeka is and he's good at it, him or someone like him could make a difference. I hear you.
I think thats the most respectful interaction i've had on this website.
 

A-Lighter-Shade-Of-Blue

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while Asante was playing as a CAM or second striker. Unless someone can show me otherwise, Torp was starting deeper in those games. I'd rather just fix what isn't working and avoid messing with what was i.e. Torp playing closer to Grimes.
I think the key issue is Torp’s role when BTA is missing. BTA was constantly running beyond the strikers, and that movement dragged defences all over the place. The strikers looked better as a result, and it also created space for Torp to arrive late in the box. If Rudoni isn’t going to make those box runs, then the number 8 becomes absolutely key, they have to provide that movement when the opportunity’s there. Torp does this well, but he’s missed a lot of games during this dip in form. Onyeka looks perfect for that role. I also get what you’re saying more broadly: fix the box runs, and a lot of the problems disappear. To do that, we probably need a different type of number 10 when BTA is out, maybe Esse fits that profile better.
 

fatso

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not sold on the idea.
Mr neither, we now have BTA coming back into the squad tomorrow, its the first time since the opening weeks that we have Rudoni and BTA both fit and available at the same time, and Esse can play AM too if required, so there's plenty of cover there.

And with Eccles capable of covering Grimes (at a push) and Torp fit again, we arnt really struggling in MF, and I havnt even considered Allen and Andrews.

Its hilarious how its the same posters getting hard ons every time some random rumour pops up on the interweb 🤣🤣🤣

I mean seriously, it was Hamer's return that was in fashion yesterday, now its Onyeka today, probably be Dan Neil again tomorrow!
 

shmmeee

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Mr neither, we now have BTA coming back into the squad tomorrow, its the first time since the opening weeks that we have Rudoni and BTA both fit and available at the same time, and Esse can play AM too if required, so there's plenty of cover there.

And with Eccles capable of covering Grimes (at a push) and Torp fit again, we arnt really struggling in MF, and I havnt even considered Allen and Andrews.

Its hilarious how its the same posters getting hard ons every time some random rumour pops up on the interweb 🤣🤣🤣

I mean seriously, it was Hamer's return that was in fashion yesterday, now it’s Onyeka today, probably be Dan Neil again tomorrow!

Torp has about 500 mins max left this season if his previous seasons are anything to go by.
 

fatso

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I think the key issue is Torp’s role when BTA is missing. BTA was constantly running beyond the strikers, and that movement dragged defences all over the place. The strikers looked better as a result, and it also created space for Torp to arrive late in the box. If Rudoni isn’t going to make those box runs, then the number 8 becomes absolutely key, they have to provide that movement when the opportunity’s there. Torp does this well, but he’s missed a lot of games during this dip in form. Onyeka looks perfect for that role. I also get what you’re saying more broadly: fix the box runs, and a lot of the problems disappear. To do that, we probably need a different type of number 10 when BTA is out, maybe Esse fits that profile better.
I've said all along that BTA has been a massive loss to us. Grimes, Torp and BTA is our most productive midfield 3 by a mile.
The sooner we get BTA fit enough to start and bench Rudoni the better imo.

At least we now have Esse who can play as a 10, (to ass cover for BTA) and if he can do that effectively we are well set for the run in.

If we do add another MF it needs to be cover for Grimes, who is irreplaceable at the moment. Eccles could slot into that position if needs be, but it would be a major downgrade.
 

mmttww

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with Eccles capable of covering Grimes (at a push) and Torp fit again, we arnt really struggling in MF, and I havnt even considered Allen and Andrews.

I think you stand a good chance of sorting our issues either way - get a destroyer in which is something we don't have but might not need, or a more dynamic fwd thinking CM which is what we had (Rudoni) but have been missing recently. We'll see how it goes! It sounds like we'll have someone in soon enough.
 

Flying Fokker

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Mr neither, we now have BTA coming back into the squad tomorrow, its the first time since the opening weeks that we have Rudoni and BTA both fit and available at the same time, and Esse can play AM too if required, so there's plenty of cover there.

And with Eccles capable of covering Grimes (at a push) and Torp fit again, we arnt really struggling in MF, and I havnt even considered Allen and Andrews.

Its hilarious how its the same posters getting hard ons every time some random rumour pops up on the interweb 🤣🤣🤣

I mean seriously, it was Hamer's return that was in fashion yesterday, now its Onyeka today, probably be Dan Neil again tomorrow!
Forgive me…Why would anyone get a hard one every time a random rumour pop up? Is this a thing? If so I’m guessing you have experience of this happening?🤪
 

fatso

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I think you stand a good chance of sorting our issues either way - get a destroyer in which is something we don't have but might not need, or a more dynamic fwd thinking CM which is what we had (Rudoni) but have been missing recently. We'll see how it goes! It sounds like we'll have someone in soon enough.
Losing Grimes to injury is our biggest worry at the moment. If we add quality cover I think we are good to go.
 

mmttww

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so in conclusion, all that we need is...

• cover for Grimes who's as good as him
• a destroyer good enough for an autos side
• attacking midfield competition for Rudoni

Dean and Doug - no pressure fellas! 😂
 

fatso

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so in conclusion, all that we need is...

• cover for Grimes who's as good as him
• a destroyer good enough for an autos side
• attacking midfield competition for Rudoni

Dean, Doug - no pressure fellas! 😂
I'd just settle for Wright finding the net occasionally!

Is that too much to ask?
 

Flying Fokker

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Looked at the YouTube footage,he’s not looking like the type of player we need unless he’s improved. For some reason he just looks like he lacks control/ is uncomfortable on the ball.
 
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shmmeee

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so in conclusion, all that we need is...

• cover for Grimes who's as good as him
• a destroyer good enough for an autos side
• attacking midfield competition for Rudoni

Dean and Doug - no pressure fellas! 😂

And a box to box 8 as good as Torp for the half a season Torp is injured.
 

Offhegoes

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I've said all along that BTA has been a massive loss to us. Grimes, Torp and BTA is our most productive midfield 3 by a mile.
The sooner we get BTA fit enough to start and bench Rudoni the better imo.

At least we now have Esse who can play as a 10, (to ass cover for BTA) and if he can do that effectively we are well set for the run in.

If we do add another MF it needs to be cover for Grimes, who is irreplaceable at the moment. Eccles could slot into that position if needs be, but it would be a major downgrade.
We are too open if BTA plays in the midfield. He needs to be across the front 3, with license to roam, like Rudoni does when he plays there. I remember Charlton & Blackburn at home. They went through our midfield at ease. At that time we were confident of outscoring teams, but it would be suicide to line up that way against Leicester, or Millwall, as we've had a wobble. Need to be solid against these two.
The AM position is Rudoni's.
Esse and in emergencies BTA can play there.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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KKH was good that side against Charlton before he got injured tbf, made me wonder why it hadn't been tried over Bidwell/Brau up to that point.
There wasn’t much opportunity for it before JDS’ red card because before then, the only game he missed was Wrexham where MVE was suspended.

KKH would’ve played more of a LWB iirc for PNE last season so playing LB is slightly different. Against Charlton it was 3-4-1-2, so it’s probably fair to assume that Lampard sees him being more comfortable at LWB than LB.
 

clint van damme

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There wasn’t much opportunity for it before JDS’ red card because before then, the only game he missed was Wrexham where MVE was suspended.

KKH would’ve played more of a LWB iirc for PNE last season so playing LB is slightly different. Against Charlton it was 3-4-1-2, so it’s probably fair to assume that Lampard sees him being more comfortable at LWB than LB.
I think he played a good few games at LB. They switched formation quite a bit.
The same happened when he switched to the right, he played both RB and RWB.
 

Jamesimus

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Definitely looks like a defensive screen type player from his YouTube rather than anyone that would rotate with Torp.

Could be used to help us see games out, or as someone else said, a ball winner alongside Grimes when we have to be more defensive.
 

SBT

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so in conclusion, all that we need is...

• cover for Grimes who's as good as him
• a destroyer good enough for an autos side
• attacking midfield competition for Rudoni

Dean and Doug - no pressure fellas! 😂
I didn’t realise that so many people’s idea of Championship squad depth means “have multiple players of identical quality in every position”
 

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