The below was before we took on Nimely and Norwood
Average age analysis:
Burnley 23.18 Coventry City 24 Reading 24.27 Peterborough 24.36 Watford 24.45 Leeds United 24.55 Hull City 24.73 Derby County 25.18 Nottingham Forest 25.18 Crystal Palace 25.45 Barnsley 25.45 Middlesbrough 25.45 Cardiff City 26 Bristol City 26.09 Brighton 26.64 Leicester City 27.09 West Ham United 27.27 Southampton 27.55 Millwall 27.64 Birmingham City 27.64 Blackpool 27.82 Portsmouth 28.36 Doncaster Rovers 28.91 Ipswich Town 30.64
Number of players under 23:
Reading 6 Burnley 6 Coventry City 5 Hull City 5 Watford 4 Derby County 4 Crystal Palace 4 Leeds United 3 Blackpool 3 Peterborough 2 Nottingham Forest 2 Barnsley 2 Middlesbrough 2 Cardiff City 2 Brighton 2 Bristol City 1 Doncaster Rovers 1 West Ham United 1 Southampton 1 Millwall 1 Birmingham City 1 Leicester City 0 Portsmouth 0 Ipswich Town 0
Will have to take that up with Reading it is their stat. You do seem right though. However 2 is still less than 50 % of what ours is. Even though ours maybe more if these stats are wrong
The below was before we took on Nimely and Norwood
Average age analysis:
Burnley 23.18 Coventry City 24 Reading 24.27 Peterborough 24.36 Watford 24.45 Leeds United 24.55 Hull City 24.73 Derby County 25.18 Nottingham Forest 25.18 Crystal Palace 25.45 Barnsley 25.45 Middlesbrough 25.45 Cardiff City 26 Bristol City 26.09 Brighton 26.64 Leicester City 27.09 West Ham United 27.27 Southampton 27.55 Millwall 27.64 Birmingham City 27.64 Blackpool 27.82 Portsmouth 28.36 Doncaster Rovers 28.91 Ipswich Town 30.64
Number of players under 23:
Reading 6 Burnley 6 Coventry City 5 Hull City 5 Watford 4 Derby County 4 Crystal Palace 4 Leeds United 3 Blackpool 3 Peterborough 2 Nottingham Forest 2 Barnsley 2 Middlesbrough 2 Cardiff City 2 Brighton 2 Bristol City 1 Doncaster Rovers 1 West Ham United 1 Southampton 1 Millwall 1 Birmingham City 1 Leicester City 0 Portsmouth 0 Ipswich Town 0
Sam Baldock and James Tomkins are 22 and are in the West Ham team so wrong as usual and I didn't even try hard for that one.
I struggle to see the gain in those statistics.
"Youth guarantees relegation" - Burnley, the youngest average age, is 11th in the table.
"Experience is needed" - Doncaster and Porstmouth, two of the three teams with the highest average age, are in the relegation zone.
"You can't win with kids on the bench" - Reading, the team with the highest number of youth players, is in 3rd place.
If anything those statistics just highlight the insignificance of age.
As the stats are a joke no comparison can be drawn. 23 is odd as an age anyway. Many of our players of that age hardly play. You need to see the % of games played by players of an age you decide is too young. Still a bit irrelevant as thorn has insisted on playing Christie from day one when he never had to.
Having an unqualified manager needs factoring in as well perhaps? Just a thought.
Why don't you just stick your fingers in your ears, shut your eyes and go "la la la la la, I can't hear you"
I promise it won't make you look any more stubborn and childish.
Didnt middlesborough field a team with 10 players from their academy the other week ?
Didnt middlesborough field a team with 10 players from their academy the other week ?
Didnt middlesborough field a team with 10 players from their academy the other week ?
It was 9 v Sunderland in FA cup, of which only 4 started and 1 came on. The four starters were bates and McMahon (both 25), Williams and Hines (both 23) and the sub keeper ripley (19) came on with 10 mins to go.
And as it was an FA cup game not league there was 2 extra spaces on the subs bench.
Indeed they did.
I am beginning to worry why some people have such an attachment to Thorn, it is bizarre and damaging to the club.
Didn't Main start and Bennett as well who are both 19 and 20?
They may have done in the replay, I didn't watch that game but I know the commentator mentioned it in the initial game.
Bennetts 21 (22 next month) and Curtis main (19) didn't come through their academy - he was signed from Darlington having scored 25 goals in 61 games.
Still young though eh. I believe if your good enough play regardless of your age. My only negative is, they will have this losing mentality which will be hard to get rid of next season if we start poorly.
My ambition was not to make my stats an excuse for Thorn's performances - as I feel upon many occasions he's been found wanting - but it's part of my desire to understand the true strength of our squad. I hasten to add that we also appear to have played more of these kids than any other team too; so it's not simply a case of the number of appearances, its the number of players we are using to make those appearances.
West Ham - again - the academy of football - haven't started a single all-important league game with anyone on the age bracket being discussed here. Not one.
In my own mind, I can't decide. I know clearly that Thorn's not a great manager. That's obvious.
However, I can't decide if he could have been an okay manager. I suspect we'll never know.
We do have a wage structure within the bottom three in the league, and we are starting games with more kids than seemingly any other team in this division; which seems to be a product of having a thin squad and no strength in depth. Add atop this Thorn's naivety and we never stood a chance.
I just wish more folk would have the accommodation to understand the bigger picture, as opposed to simply dismissing our plight as simply the ill-hand of a fat oaf....
Oh dear. We all post intelligent responses raising issues regarding thorns shortcomings. You have proved incapable of answering any. F off sisu and Jordan Clarke is shite seem to be all you ever say.
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