So I hope covmark, ian, ccfc4life will be happy and still support Sisu after the fl have given ccfc another points deduction !!!!!
My first point its only a calculated figure to be paid there is no excuse for not getting it sorted before deadline !!!
Second point is Sisu don't give a fuck about CCFC if prepared to let CCFC to get further sanctions. Just so they can continue their personal fight with Acl !!!
The administrator included an amount in his report at 636K after deducting the proceeds of the escrow account £536k and the match day payments approx. £230k
The FL decided Otium who are the "new" owners and not party to any lease at the Ricoh should pay ACL £590k. You would have to ask them why they arrived at that figure but I assume that they did it to match the CVA. To then call it "rent" is wrong if they are basing on the CVA. If they wanted the rent liability paid surely they would have insisted on £636K. The FL did not have to impose any figure at all but could impose any figure they liked as compensation.
You have to say, the timing of this story coming out is quite remarkable.
It could hardly be less remarkable! The deadline is today so if there is a reason for non payment it will need to be discussed.
So I hope covmark, ian, ccfc4life will be happy and still support Sisu after the fl have given ccfc another points deduction !!!!!
My first point its only a calculated figure to be paid there is no excuse for not getting it sorted before deadline !!!
Second point is Sisu don't give a fuck about CCFC if prepared to let CCFC to get further sanctions. Just so they can continue their personal fight with Acl !!!
Simons story has been posted now. Sorry don't know how to do a link on my phone so if someone could do the honours.
Doesn't look good.
So have we already had a points deduction or are you merely guessing again?
At no point have I ever said that SISU shouldn't pay the money to ACL. What I do think should happen is that when SISU pay the 590K - then the 300K should really be returned to Robinson/McGinnity. Or would you be happy with your council buddies having an extra 300K??
As a guarantor - if you have to pay something as a result of the original party not paying, it goes against the arrears... it's not a bonus.
As for sanctions - if it gets there, there is no justification for SISU allowing there to be another points deduction.
Perhaps the word should be convenient or inconvenient. Depending on the eventual outcome and whether you are the recipient or payee. Unfortunately if there is going to be a victim, yet again that's going to be the team and us supporters.
The 300k paid this week was to do with the escrow account and nothing to do with this 590k payment imposed by the fl !!!
Personally I don't care if Sisu don't pay up. If they don't we may sooner see the back of them rather than later !!
Who's using the family brain cell today John?
Obviously you would rather keep Sisu at the helm !!!
So I hope covmark, ian, ccfc4life will be happy and still support Sisu after the fl have given ccfc another points deduction !!!!!
My first point its only a calculated figure to be paid there is no excuse for not getting it sorted before deadline !!!
Second point is Sisu don't give a fuck about CCFC if prepared to let CCFC to get further sanctions. Just so they can continue their personal fight with Acl !!!
I really do hope not, another points deduction could be the final nail in the coffin for many.
Agreed. I don't think the team that finished last season was as good as the team that started and if there is no marked improvement in the strength and depth of the team before the start of next season I would fear relegation without a points deduction.
I would also fear for SP's commitment to the club. Who would put up with 3 points deductions in 3 consecutive seasons.
And even more worrying is the hindrance it would cause in recruiting player's to improve the strength and depth of the team. If you were a player and had 2 identical offers from clubs in the same league, one was starting the season with a points deduction and playing 35miles from where it should be to a pitiful audience with no atmosphere and the other team wasn't, which would you pick?
I know we're getting ahead of ourselves here but it is a worry.
What? They were guarantors for the rent not being paid. The amount agreed by FL was in relation to unpaid rent. So although not directly linked they are obviously connected.
So are you happy that ACL get an extra 300K for nothing??
Also - In Simons article it says in the final part that the sum has been paid into the escrow account awaiting transfer to ACL. It says the liquidator controls that account. So we are waiting on Appleton I presume?
Its not clear what they were guarantors for Ian. That is the crux of the story.
If the £300k went straight to SP I doubt many would complain but I think we all know that won't be the case.
The last part is possibly the most confusing part for me. Surely the agreement is between Otium and the FL? Sod all to do with Appleton I would have thought?
Not at all, I hope they meet with nasty accidents. But non-payment will not get rid of them any more than an empty sixfields.
No excuses you fuckers.
If this results in another points reduction I'm going to boycott home games...... oh.
I'll stop buying home shirts..... oh.
I'll be pissed off...... oh.
There's nowhere else to go other than total apathy. Fuck it all.
Wankers.
I am a little worried about this.
We were only allowed to play last season on the understanding that this 590k would be paid by the end of this month. So if we got a points deduction over this would it be against last seasons points tally? If so we will find ourselves in Division 4 next season. Is this what they want so they don't have to put a better squad together than we already have and then blame it all on the FL?
I think they will pay after june 10th. They always pay late.
I don't know if that would even be possible. Still, it will be another divide in the fan base. Was it the sisu points dedication that got us relegated or the "ACL points" that got us relegated? I can see the threads now ;-)
I think they will pay after june 10th. They always pay late.
A empty Sixfields will let them know they have lost the supporters and they cannot make money. It would be the end game.
As I've said before...
They lost around 8,500 paying customers when they left the Ricoh and they took that hit, but you think those last 1,500 will make the difference? It's small change! They don't give a fuck about the support at the moment, it's all about winning the war. I'm sure if they ended up with the Ricoh there would then be a charm offensive but at the moment an empty Sixfields would change nothing, not a fucking thing! I'm staggered that people cannot see that.
Why??? Because all it is, is just your opinion not an established fact. You maybe right that if virtually no one went to Sixfield both SISU and the Football League wouldn't give a damn, but no one can know that for certain,because it never happened. \Both points of views are arguable points, that is why it has come up continually for over 12 months, and will no doubt be argued until there is finally a resolution to this shambles.As I've said before...
They lost around 8,500 paying customers when they left the Ricoh and they took that hit, but you think those last 1,500 will make the difference? It's small change! They don't give a fuck about the support at the moment, it's all about winning the war. I'm sure if they ended up with the Ricoh there would then be a charm offensive but at the moment an empty Sixfields would change nothing, not a fucking thing! I'm staggered that people cannot see that.
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