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Cov Tel - Les Reid Article - Football League admits serious errors

Coventry Telegraph Article - Written By Les Reid

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/football-league-admits-coventry-city-5741590

Football League admits serious errors in Coventry City administration saga


16 Aug 2013 13:33Questions raised over Sky Blues sale after League accepts 'administrative oversight' meant players were registered to wrong Sisu company

The Football League has admitted it made serious and unique errors in registering Coventry City players to the wrong company, the Telegraph can reveal.
The revelation raises serious questions about the whole sale process which enabled the club to emerge from administration under the previous owners Sisu - in the guise of related company Otium.
Under repeated questioning from the Telegraph, the League has confirmed publicly for the first time that it made an “administrative oversight” in registering Sky Blues players to Coventry City Football Club (Holdings) Ltd.
The League admitted the players’ contracts ought to have been registered with another company - Coventry City Football Club Limited - because it held the League’s “golden share” which allowed it to play in the league as the club.
We can also reveal the League is writing to sports minister Hugh Robertson to admit the errors.
It says the mistakes in allowing players to reside in CCFC Holdings were also made by the FA.
Part-Coventry City Council-owned Ricoh firm Arena Coventry Limited (ACL) has insisted, ever since it filed for CCFC Ltd’s administration in March, that all the playing assets should have been in one company, CCFC Ltd.
As the Telegraph has reported since March when CCFC Ltd went into administration, League documents and CCFC Ltd’s last filed accounts for 2010/11 provided evidence that CCFC Ltd constituted the playing side of the club.
The League also told the Telegraph it has now put in place procedures to make sure such “administrative oversights” never happen again.
The League refused to say whether some or all Coventry City players were registered by the League’s “player registration department” and FA in the Holdings company.
Crucially, it also declined to say over what period the errors were made.


The Telegraph has learned the League will tell the sports minister that, over time, the business model of Coventry City became increasingly complicated, and the errors had occurred within that period.
The League told the Telegraph it became aware of the errors around March, following its initial investigations.
The League says its has since carried out an “audit” of all other 71 League clubs - which found there was no such division of assets between companies anywhere in the country.
The League claims the errors did not breach its rules and regulations, claiming assets can straddle two companies - but it accepts it was not “ideal” and “should not have happened”.
The League has waited until now to publicly admit the mistakes.
It comes after the Football League on August 2 transferred the golden share - which had been suspended since March’s administration - to Sisu company Otium.
By then, Otium had been selected by administrator Paul Appleton as the buyer of minor assets in CCFC Ltd for £1.5million - which crucially excluded the sale of staff and players’ contracts held by Sisu company CCFC Holdings Ltd.
Other bidders and potential bidders who had hoped to take over the Sky Blues have told the Telegraph the sale was stacked in favour of Sisu-related companies as the major creditors - because they were not able to bid for the whole club.


Those bidders and potential bidders included US property investor Preston Haskell IV and Warwickshire businessman Michael Byng with potential Chinese investment.
Mr Byng complained the process would have meant them buying minor assets in CCFC Ltd - with no knowledge of whether they would get the golden share, or whether Sisu boss Joy Seppala would later be prepared to sell the players to them.
Other potential bidders, who wished to remain anonymous, have told the Telegraph they were also put off bidding because of the “messy” situation.


Expert Alan Limb, an insolvency practitioner of BRI (Business Recovery and Insolvency), who is also a Coventry City fan, said: “Had all the assets including players been in the company for which Paul Appleton was administrator (CCFC Ltd), the outcome could have been very different because he would have had the ability to sell the club as a whole.
“It raises questions as to whether people might have been prepared to bid for all of those assets at a price the administrator could accept.”
The revelation follows the Telegraph’ interview with Football League chairman Greg Clarke, in which he said he did not know if players’ contracts had been registered with Holdings, and that the information would have to come from the League’s lawyers.
He said: “I don’t know the answer to that question. It may be interesting to get to the bottom of - but it wouldn’t change anything. The club has been sold.
“To the best of our ability, we and the FA registered players in the right place within the corporate structure.. I am reasonably confident we did it right.”
He said the League had deferred to the court-appointed administrator, Mr Appleton, to decide who would buy the assets in CCFC Ltd.


Tim Fisher, Sky Blues boss and Otium director, has long argued the players were located in the Holdings company, that there was no wrongdoing or “transfer” of any assets between companies, and that Holdings had a “beneficial” claim to the assets in CCFC Ltd.
Mr Appleton has said the “beneficial ownership” argument could only be tested in the court, and that the process left him no option but to sell to Otium as the best offer available to discharge debts to non-connected creditors, including ACL.
Mr Appleton’s report to creditors in May stated CCFC Ltd was created as a subsidiary of Holdings (formerly called The Coventry City Football Club Limited) in May 1995, when the club was in the Premier League, established in 1992.
The club was relegated into the Championship, administered by the Football League, in 2001.
The club claims the assets in Holdings, including players’ contracts, have now been transferred to Otium following Mr Appleton’s sale - so that all the playing assets are now in one place.
 

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Noggin

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Shows Greg Clark to be a liar of the highest order from the things he said in the interview earlier, either that or he totally has no idea what happens at his organisation.
 

Dhinsa's_Millions

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Football League incompetence BUT SISU knew what they were doing its obvious!

--The League says its has since carried out an “audit” of all other 71 League clubs - which found there was no such division of assets between companies anywhere in the country.--

Its very strange that this hasn't happened elsewhere isn't it Tim / Joy / Onye / Ken?
 

The Penguin

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Wait, wait, wait. They knew in March but waited until August before they finally came clean?

Love how they also "claim" that it doesn't break their rules and that assets can "straddle" companies.

Are they trying to make football open slather for all sorts of underhanded practises?

So, businessy-knowledgable people of the forum, what does this mean? Grounds to challenge the sale, or a case of "move along, nothing to see here"?
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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This "revelation" doesnt change anything though does it. Unless the sale of ltd's assets to Otium can be challenged in court they just carry on as before
 

Sky Blues

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Just asked this question on the other thread on the same article:


Expert Alan Limb, an insolvency practitioner of BRI (Business Recovery and Insolvency), who is also a Coventry City fan, said: “Had all the assets including players been in the company for which Paul Appleton was administrator (CCFC Ltd), the outcome could have been very different because he would have had the ability to sell the club as a whole. “It raises questions as to whether people might have been prepared to bid for all of those assets at a price the administrator could accept.”


Could ACL or any of the bidders take any legal action over this?
 

oldskyblue58

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so its ok because they have checked everyone else and said sorry to the sports minister ....... :facepalm:
 

Sky Blues

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The League told the Telegraph it became aware of the errors around March, following its initial investigations.


So when they became aware of this did the league inform Mr Appleton that, contrary to what I recall to be his own belief, CCFC Ltd did indeed have some players? I seem to remember him saying he couldn't do a deal to play at the Ricoh because the players were in Holdings...
 

Nick

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I think pwkh said at the time it would change football and open a can of worms in the footballing world didn't he?
 

Dhinsa's_Millions

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I'd love to see the audit trail on this and how many players were registered with Holdings and when. This was could have been done when Otium was first set up by Dulieu (all new players in Holdings) as SISU were preparing (or giving themselves a plan B) for an exit from the Ricoh and needed to move everything out of the company with the lease in it.

Wouldn't the accounts sign off from Fisher have to state such movements?
 

James Smith

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So just to check there's no chance that we fielded ineligible players last season and all that.........:facepalm:
 

The Penguin

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I'd love to see the audit trail on this and how many players were registered with Holdings and when. This was could have been done when Otium was first set up by Dulieu (all new players in Holdings) as SISU were preparing (or giving themselves a plan B) for an exit from the Ricoh and needed to move everything out of the company with the lease in it.

Wouldn't the accounts sign off from Fisher have to state such movements?

Further to this, whose accounts were the players listed as 'assets' in? Holdings or Limited?

Might have to go back and read some of Sky Blue Squirrel's early work to refresh my memory.
 

Sky Blues

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Someone just made this point on Twitter:

martw17 2:02pm
@cityguy_uk @covchris1987 @partridge1971 actually the process isn't finished is it? Still to go high court for ratification?

As the liquidation process is not complete, is there any chance this new information could lead to the administration process being reopened?
 

Cranfield Sky Blue

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I'd love to see the audit trail on this and how many players were registered with Holdings and when. This was could have been done when Otium was first set up by Dulieu (all new players in Holdings) as SISU were preparing (or giving themselves a plan B) for an exit from the Ricoh and needed to move everything out of the company with the lease in it.

Wouldn't the accounts sign off from Fisher have to state such movements?

You would have thought so, as players have been considered assets in all this...... Not David Bell obviously.
 

James Smith

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What does this say about Mr Appleton?
 

chiefdave

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we're in the area of what can be done legally v what is against league rules (should they ever decide to enforce any of them).

you can transfer assets between companies you own so long as you're not up to something such as asset stripping. That may be the best route legally, someone would have to take action against ACL for asset stripping and possibly against Appleton for not being totally open about what people were bidding on, would need to carefully look at everything he said to see if that was a road worth going down.

the league, as we have seen, can do what they like. in an ideal world they would have an open sale process for the sale of the golden share and player registrations. you would have to look at the law about the contracts but would SISU not be looking at restraint of trade issues if the league gave the share to someone else but SISU blocked the players from playing. not that it will come to that, that would require a backbone from the league and we can clearly see they are terrified of SISU taking them to court.

the thing we can see for certain now is that SISU have been planning this for a long time. all the 'normal business practice' rubbish about Otium being set up, player contracts etc is absolute bollocks.
 

shmmeee

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I'd love to see the audit trail on this and how many players were registered with Holdings and when. This was could have been done when Otium was first set up by Dulieu (all new players in Holdings) as SISU were preparing (or giving themselves a plan B) for an exit from the Ricoh and needed to move everything out of the company with the lease in it.

Wouldn't the accounts sign off from Fisher have to state such movements?

Well Otium was created in 2011, shortly afterwards Baker, Bell and Sheffers all mysteriously get contracts for reasons that obviously have nowt to do with football. We all thought it was for book value back then, maybe that was the start of shifting players over.

When I get the chance Ill see when the last players contracted before this date left the club. My guess is it'll tally pretty closely with when we stopped paying the rent.
 

Sky Blues

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From the Telegraph report:

The League admitted the players’ contracts ought to have been registered with another company - Coventry City Football Club Limited - because it held the League’s “golden share” which allowed it to play in the league as the club.

So, Tim, you were saying that CCFC Ltd is a non-trading property subsidiary? Why should players' contracts have been registered to CCFC Ltd if it was a non-trading property subsidiary?
 

Badger

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I had suspected that SISU had deliberately put the players into a different company and that there could be a big points deduction to follow if so.

If the FL are at fault - there will be no deduction. I would like to know where it leaves the sales from the Administration though especially if the FL knew this in March
 

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