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Fans back in stadia by Xmas? (3 Viewers)

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  • Start date Nov 17, 2020
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steve cooper

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  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #106
tier 2 is 2000 or 50% whichever is the smaller
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #107
steve cooper said:
4000 or 50% whichever is the smaller
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Didn’t see the smaller bit
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #108
AFCCOVENTRY said:
It’s 50% of capacity in tier 1 or 2
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Is it, I had only read that 4k figure
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #109
Sport - 4k Ready
 
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Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #110
Definitely a step in the right direction but can't see Birmingham being anything but Tier 3 for some time yet unfortunately.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #111
When it reopens hopefully it will still be available on iFollow as I am sure my wife won’t allow my boys to go even though they have season tickets
 
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Magwitch

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  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #112
Well it’s a start don’t see it getting back to how it was for a good while but as said it has to start some how.
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #113
steve cooper said:
4000 or 50% whichever is the smaller
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How on earth are they going to maintain the level of social distancing we've seen in other countries when they've started letting fans back in and have 50% capacity?

Was listening to the owner of an NHL hockey team and he said they've modelling needing to leave a minimum of 2 seats in every direction around every group of supporters. Said it would likely be around a quarter capacity and definitely no more than a third - dependent on how many people were in each group.
 

Colin Steins Smile

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #114
I welcome the potential opportunity to attend games again, but this is only viable if everyone attending are really self disciplined and stay distanced, etc.
Being slightly cynical about the announcement. I can’t help feeling that the government will use this as a reason to continue to say football doesn’t need any of treasury funding & the Premier league to help out..... which they are very reluctant to do .... unless they have B teams, no relegation etc
 

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #115
AOM said:
Be nice to actually go and support the team again in person, but yeah struggling to summon the enthusiasm to go to a silent St Andrews on a baltic Wednesday night with 2000 or so fans spread about
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You could have a baltic pie to warm you up
 
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Mcbean

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  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #116
Smallheath T3 for sure unfortunately - it a very busy community
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #117
Mcbean said:
Smallheath T3 for sure unfortunately - it a very busy community
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I'm working there at the moment, it's an absolute shithole. The area around St. Andrews is the nice bit.
 
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Macca

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  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #118
The Covid policies are an absolute bloody lottery
 
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Corrado

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  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #119
bawtryneal said:
Zero chance before Xmas
40% chance March 1st
60%. chance April 1st
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Do you want to have another guess now?
 
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SkyBlueScottie

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #120
Corrado said:
Do you want to have another guess now?
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I would say he's got a decent chance with no chance before Xmas. Can't see Birmingham being Tier 2. They were higher than us before lockdown.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #121
I still think we won’t be allowed. It will be homes fans only all over the country. As we’re in a different city I just can’t see them allowing thousands of people to go from one area to another, mingle in pubs, go to the stadium and then back to where they came from.
 
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Kilclines curly mullet

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #122
Liquid Gold said:
I still think we won’t be allowed. It will be homes fans only all over the country. As we’re in a different city I just can’t see them allowing thousands of people to go from one area to another, mingle in pubs, go to the stadium and then back to where they came from.
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We have season tickets but travel from Hampshire...I wonder how / if that will be monitored / checked
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #123
Interesting point about the numbers now compared to when the plug was pulled on test events.

 

Skybluefaz

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  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #124
chiefdave said:
Interesting point about the numbers now compared to when the plug was pulled on test events.

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The government seem to be keen to tell people we aren't out of the woods and not to be complacent with the vaccine on the horizon, but then take actions which suggest they are doing exactly that.
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #125
Be interesting to see what the Welsh government allow Cardiff & Swansea to do, they don't need to follow same rules.
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #126
Not a chance we'll have fans as brum is likely to be t3 for a while
 
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Monners

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  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #127
I does strike me as odd considering the country is in a similar situation to Spring/summer
 
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steve cooper

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  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #128
 
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covboy1987

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  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #129
Liquid Gold said:
I still think we won’t be allowed. It will be homes fans only all over the country. As we’re in a different city I just can’t see them allowing thousands of people to go from one area to another, mingle in pubs, go to the stadium and then back to where they came from.
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I agree with you - Awkward one for the authorities to consider as they probably haven’t another example but I think a non-starter –Currently Birmingham are in tier 2 (not 3 like people are saying) the same as Cov -m if both stay in the same tier 2 it still will be doubtful due to the strict travelling rules and car sharing etc –
 

bawtryneal

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  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #130
Corrado said:
Do you want to have another guess now?
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Wasn't aware that it had been announced we are letting fans into St Andrews prior to Xmas.
Do you know something I don't ?
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 23, 2020
  • #131
covboy1987 said:
I agree with you - Awkward one for the authorities to consider as they probably haven’t another example but I think a non-starter –Currently Birmingham are in tier 2 (not 3 like people are saying) the same as Cov -m if both stay in the same tier 2 it still will be doubtful due to the strict travelling rules and car sharing etc –
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Would assume if there's any doubt it will just be a no. We'll have to wait and see what is being done to stop fans moving around the country in general. How are they going to allocate tickets and ensure they only end up in the hands of people who don't need to travel?
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 24, 2020
  • #132
Telling us all to not lower our guard and how serious things are whilst allowing at least 2000 people to travel to congregate together is the policy of a lunatic
 
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Mcbean

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 24, 2020
  • #133
Central Leicester been in Tier 1 for a long time and infections are still
Going up - i Think Brum will be in the same boat so I can’t see us getting back in until post vaccination
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Nov 24, 2020
  • #134
Skybluefaz said:
The government seem to be keen to tell people we aren't out of the woods and not to be complacent with the vaccine on the horizon, but then take actions which suggest they are doing exactly that.
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I think it's fairly obvious the government have done this as a compromise in order to mitigate the PR fallout from their refusal to bail out the EFL, despite offering financial aid to other sports.

I have to say though as Chief Dave as well as others have pointed out, whilst it's a compromise, it's a reckless one.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Nov 24, 2020
  • #135
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I think it's fairly obvious the government have done this as a compromise in order to mitigate the PR fallout from their refusal to bail out the EFL, despite offering financial aid to other sports.

I have to say though as Chief Dave as well as others have pointed out, whilst it's a compromise, it's a reckless one.
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Agree with that too. Although it sounds like accomodating 4000 fans could cost clubs money rather give any relief.
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 24, 2020
  • #136
chiefdave said:
How on earth are they going to maintain the level of social distancing we've seen in other countries when they've started letting fans back in and have 50% capacity?

Was listening to the owner of an NHL hockey team and he said they've modelling needing to leave a minimum of 2 seats in every direction around every group of supporters. Said it would likely be around a quarter capacity and definitely no more than a third - dependent on how many people were in each group.
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N.Ireland had just over 1k fans for our recent defeat by Slovakia. Looked like were spaced out 2 seats in every direction. Not sure if they opened all 4 stands though. Atmosphere sounded surprisingly ok given the low numbers in a sparse stadium.

It will be interesting to see how the clubs manage it in the smaller stadiums.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Nov 24, 2020
  • #137
Liquid Gold said:
I still think we won’t be allowed. It will be homes fans only all over the country. As we’re in a different city I just can’t see them allowing thousands of people to go from one area to another, mingle in pubs, go to the stadium and then back to where they came from.
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I get your logic but I just cant see them letting in home fans of 91 clubs and not ours. There'd be outrage! (from us at least which would be totally justified).

They other clubs would have to get into the system of selling the tickets by postcode which again, wouldn't likely go down well.

If it goes ahead, I reckon we'll be alright.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Nov 24, 2020
  • #138
Skybluefaz said:
Agree with that too. Although it sounds like accomodating 4000 fans could cost clubs money rather give any relief.
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I've been saying this for months. Getting fans back into stadiums in a reduced capacity isn't necessarily a miracle cure for clubs from a financial point of view. As if you weigh up the match-day operating costs against revenue from footfall, clubs either aren't left with a great deal, or as you've said could actually cost clubs. In order for clubs to benefit it would be better suited to be a certain percentage of fans allowed in, but reflective of a club's stadium size. E.g. 30% for Wycombe would look a whole lot different for Forest but social distancing could theoretically still be respected. (I stress the word theoretically).

This proposal is merely a plaster for a bullet wound for many clubs.
 

Mcbean

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  • Nov 24, 2020
  • #139
I would venture in our case those up to 4000 have already paid for their seats so it would cost in terms of Stewarding ! police , closing the roads ? Small amount of beverage income to cover - hand sanitizer etc - doesn’t make sense
 
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Cranfield Sky Blue

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  • Nov 24, 2020
  • #140
Mcbean said:
I would venture in our case those up to 4000 have already paid for their seats so it would cost in terms of Stewarding ! police , closing the roads ? Small amount of beverage income to cover - hand sanitizer etc - doesn’t make sense
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I guess there would be no beverage income as they wouldn’t be allowed to open. Think how tight it is at Stans around the bars.
 
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