Fan Unity - What Would It Achieve? (1 Viewer)

Samo · May 11, 2014

I realize this has been talked about on another thread but...

I read all the time that if the fans stood united we would succeed in our aims... How?
If we had all woken up this morning to find we are all in complete agreement, what would it change? It would be nice of course but what would it change?

Nick · May 11, 2014

Samo said:
I realize this has been talked about on another thread but...

I read all the time that if the fans stood united we would succeed in our aims... How?
If we had all woken up this morning to find we are all in complete agreement, what would it change? It would be nice of course but what would it change?

Nothing at all, the fans have no power to do anything in all of this.

ccfcway · May 11, 2014

Not a single person would go to Sixfields.

Having ZERO attanedance would surely have to put pressure of the FL to broker a short term deal to get the club back to Coventry

Samo · May 11, 2014

ccfcway said:
Not a single person would go to Sixfields.

Having ZERO attanedance would surely have to put pressure of the FL to broker a short term deal to get the club back to Coventry

Why?

ccfcway · May 11, 2014

Samo said:
Why?

If Sixfields was empty and we had a campaign whenever a "Home" match was on, several thousand Cov fans camped outside the FL and listened to the game, they would do something pretty sharpish.

torchomatic · May 11, 2014

Why would it? What evidence is there apart from "well, it would, wouldn't it" statements from those such as yourselves? I presume that as long as the fixtures are completed then why would they care?

ccfcway said:
Not a single person would go to Sixfields.

Having ZERO attanedance would surely have to put pressure of the FL to broker a short term deal to get the club back to Coventry

torchomatic · May 11, 2014

Again, you have no evidence. We could all agree that they "might" stand up and do something but there's very little evidence of that.

ccfcway said:
If Sixfields was empty and we had a campaign whenever a "Home" match was on, several thousand Cov fans camped outside the FL and listened to the game, they would do something pretty sharpish.

Samo · May 11, 2014

ccfcway said:
If Sixfields was empty and we had a campaign whenever a "Home" match was on, several thousand Cov fans camped outside the FL and listened to the game, they would do something pretty sharpish.

I don't believe it would make the slightest difference. And protests outside the FL have not been a roaring success - 2 blokes and a dog wasn't it?

ccfcway · May 11, 2014

I am not suggesting we do it, as we simply wouldnt get the numbers. I am responded to the OP. I would suggest that 5,000 fans regularly outside FL whenever a home game is on and no-one attends stands more of a chance of action from the FL than what is currently happening

The reality is the majority of fans are already in agreement

ccfcway · May 11, 2014

On a slightly different note, just asking the question, does anyone think that Hull's name change would have happened if the fans hadnt kicked up a fuss and they were supportive of it ?

Nick · May 11, 2014

ccfcway said:
On a slightly different note, just asking the question, does anyone think that Hull's name change would have happened if the fans hadnt kicked up a fuss and they were supportive of it ?

Didn't they vote for it?

ccfcway · May 11, 2014

Nick said:
Didn't they vote for it?

In a statement, City Til We Die said: "The truth of the matter is that this result is largely meaningless, either as a true measure of opinions regarding the name change proposal, or the supporters' desire to see Dr Allam and his son Ehab stay."
It said there were "yawning deficiencies" in the ballot, including the "loaded nature of the questions".

torchomatic · May 11, 2014

Good point. They are a Premiership team though and that matters. A lot. Imagine if Liverpool or Utd were moved. Wouldn't be allowed, would it? Little old Cov though? Shame. Tut, tut, etc etc. I think a few Hull ST holders voted for it, didn't they?

Personally, I believe all the press articles and bad publicity and journalists tut tutting regarding our situation won't change a thing. Only SISU and CCC can make a difference.

ccfcway said:
On a slightly different note, just asking the question, does anyone think that Hull's name change would have happened if the fans hadnt kicked up a fuss ?

ollyservetta · May 11, 2014

a louder voice if nowt else

Samo · May 11, 2014

ccfcway said:
I am not suggesting we do it, as we simply wouldnt get the numbers. I am responded to the OP. I would suggest that 5,000 fans regularly outside FL whenever a home game is on and no-one attends stands more of a chance of action from the FL than what is currently happening

The reality is the majority of fans are already in agreement

I will concede that 5000 fans outside the FL regularly might create some pressure... but back in the real world...

ccfcway · May 11, 2014

Samo said:
I will concede that 5000 fans outside the FL regularly might create some pressure... but back in the real world...

completely agree. Just a shame that we can take 7,000 to MK Dons, yet only one man and his dog to the FL

torchomatic · May 11, 2014

And that's the rub. Thousands to Arsenal and MK. 30K to the JPT semi-final but only 8K on last years march and a rubbish amount signing the petition.

ccfcway said:
completely agree. Just a shame that we can take 7,000 to MK Dons, yet only one man and his dog to the FL

Samo · May 11, 2014

ccfcway said:
completely agree. Just a shame that we can take 7,000 to MK Dons, yet only one man and his dog to the FL

We are united then! 5000 to the FL it is!

dongonzalos · May 11, 2014

Samo said:
I realize this has been talked about on another thread but...

I read all the time that if the fans stood united we would succeed in our aims... How?
If we had all woken up this morning to find we are all in complete agreement, what would it change? It would be nice of course but what would it change?

The protests and campaigns would be far more impactive. There are some great passionate people with great ideas. Working in completely different directions.

Otis · May 11, 2014

No fans turning up would make a difference. Am absoultely convinced of that.

Surely our owners stance is based on the fact that some fans are going. We all know that if we were top of the table the attendances would increase. Some, like myself, would not attend whatever, but some would be swayed by success on the pitch.

The hope from Sisu must be that if they can get stuff right on the field then fans will return.

If no-one attended at all, a blanket ban and that stayed in place for the entire season then I believe that would have to affect their thinking and things would change.

Without fans there is no football club.

Grendel · May 11, 2014

Otis said:
No fans turning up would make a difference. Am absoultely convinced of that.

Surely our owners stance is based on the fact that some fans are going. We all know that if we were top of the table the attendances would increase. Some, like myself, would not attend whatever, but some would be swayed by success on the pitch.

The hope from Sisu must be that if they can get stuff right on the field then fans will return.

If no-one attended at all, a blanket ban and that stayed in place for the entire season then I believe that would have to affect their thinking and things would change.

Without fans there is no football club.

Would that apply to away matches as well?

RFC · May 11, 2014

Nick said:
Nothing at all, the fans have no power to do anything in all of this.

Totally and utterly agree Nick, we can all have our opinions but basically in a situation like ours we just have to let things sort themselves out.

I refuse to lose sight of the reason I first went to a match at Highfield Road to support my football team, the Bantam's (later to become the Sky Blues) and I'll continue to support them wherever they play (even Timbuktu, although would'nt be able to attend games but listen on player!).

Why should I cut-off my nose to spite my face, renewed my season tickets on the first day. PUSB!

Otis · May 11, 2014

Grendel said:
Would that apply to away matches as well?

The blanket ban you mean? No, I don't believe it would.

torchomatic · May 11, 2014

Being convinced isn't a guarantee though is it? It's an opinion like everything else on here.

Otis said:
No fans turning up would make a difference. Am absoultely convinced of that.

Surely our owners stance is based on the fact that some fans are going. We all know that if we were top of the table the attendances would increase. Some, like myself, would not attend whatever, but some would be swayed by success on the pitch.

The hope from Sisu must be that if they can get stuff right on the field then fans will return.

If no-one attended at all, a blanket ban and that stayed in place for the entire season then I believe that would have to affect their thinking and things would change.

Without fans there is no football club.

Otis · May 11, 2014

RFC said:
Totally and utterly agree Nick, we can all have our opinions but basically in a situation like ours we just have to let things sort themselves out.

I refuse to lose sight of the reason I first went to a match at Highfield Road to support my football team, the Bantam's (later to become the Sky Blues) and I'll continue to support them wherever they play (even Timbuktu, although would'nt be able to attend games but listen on player!).

Why should I cut-off my nose to spite my face, renewed my season tickets on the first day. PUSB!

You did? None of us had any idea! Why haven't you mentioned this before and kept reminding us again and again?

Otis · May 11, 2014

torchomatic said:
Being convinced isn't a guarantee though is it? It's an opinion like everything else on here.

How can anyone guarantee it, Torch? We can't. No-one has a crystal ball.

Grendel · May 11, 2014

Otis said:
The blanket ban you mean? No, I don't believe it would.

Then why would it make any difference. Support at away games in large numbers will equally assure them if they return so will supporters.

The financial contribution is minimal anyway. Packed away ends show fan acceptance as much as home games.

Samo · May 11, 2014

Otis said:
No fans turning up would make a difference. Am absoultely convinced of that.

Surely our owners stance is based on the fact that some fans are going. We all know that if we were top of the table the attendances would increase. Some, like myself, would not attend whatever, but some would be swayed by success on the pitch.

The hope from Sisu must be that if they can get stuff right on the field then fans will return.

If no-one attended at all, a blanket ban and that stayed in place for the entire season then I believe that would have to affect their thinking and things would change.

Without fans there is no football club.

They lost over 8000 when they moved from the Ricoh, you think the tipping point is somewhere in that last 1500?

Otis · May 11, 2014

Samo said:
They lost over 8000 when they moved from the Ricoh, you think the tipping point is somewhere in that last 1500?

The fact that some fans are going will surely give Sisu hope that IF we have success more will return. No-one going at all, whatever would give a completely different slant on things and tell the oweners we won't go whatever.

dongonzalos · May 11, 2014

Otis said:
No fans turning up would make a difference. Am absoultely convinced of that.

Surely our owners stance is based on the fact that some fans are going. We all know that if we were top of the table the attendances would increase. Some, like myself, would not attend whatever, but some would be swayed by success on the pitch.

The hope from Sisu must be that if they can get stuff right on the field then fans will return.

If no-one attended at all, a blanket ban and that stayed in place for the entire season then I believe that would have to affect their thinking and things would change.

Without fans there is no football club.

There is absolutely no question that would have an impact.
However we all know it will never happen

Samo · May 11, 2014

Otis said:
The fact that some fans are going will surely give Sisu hope that IF we have success more will return. No-one going at all, whatever would give a completely different slant on things and tell the oweners we won't go whatever.

That will be why they are going all out for success on the field then!

Otis · May 11, 2014

Grendel said:
Then why would it make any difference. Support at away games in large numbers will equally assure them if they return so will supporters.

The financial contribution is minimal anyway. Packed away ends show fan acceptance as much as home games.

What I am sating Grendel is that City fans have no problem with our playing away at Walsall or Bradford or Sheff Utd, but do very much have a problem with the club playing their home games 35 miles away from Coventry.

Otis · May 11, 2014

Samo said:
That will be why they are going all out for success on the field then!

No, they are not. I think they just have their fingers crossed that it will all come together and will do something like Yeovil and have success on a tiny budget. More out of hope than design.

Samo · May 11, 2014

Otis said:
No, they are not. I think they just have their fingers crossed that it will all come together and will do something like Yeovil and have success on a tiny budget. More out of hope than design.

Not much of a business plan Otis?

Grendel · May 11, 2014

dongonzalos said:
There is absolutely no question that would have an impact.
However we all know it will never happen

Yes there is - you have no evidence at all.

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