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Hiraeth

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  • Apr 8, 2024
  • #1,331
No system is perfect, was going to suggest that for remaining tickets after the next sale window has been open a few days, they could send out specific links to purchase single tickets to each Sky Blues Talk user account but I guess folks'd moan that it's not fair that Boosh can buy 100 odd tickets
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Apr 8, 2024
  • #1,332
2x per ST is not the right approach

This has happened because people have bought tickets on a single account and not allocated to others in their network and therefore not getting the points credit. I am a victim of that and I've had to buy another 3x home games just to hit the threshold

I also have a third account on my network but I'm not doubling up on tickets for that one

Also think windows could've been opened sooner (e.g. give STs the weekend then open 50x points on Monday morning), then everyone else on Thursday morning etc...

It will sell out

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skybluecam

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  • Apr 8, 2024
  • #1,333
The mistake is giving each window far too long, 2 days would’ve been enough. No idea why there was a week between the 50/0 points. I still think they’ll sell out, even if they have to do another round to ST holders. I’d buy a couple for casual mates.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Apr 8, 2024
  • #1,334
Sky Blue Pete said:
Have advised the club
Not sure anything can be done now
Think 2 per season ticket was probably a good idea in hindsight
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No it wasn't sorry, that would have shat on thousands of fans.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Apr 8, 2024
  • #1,335
Purchase history is to ensure you don’t have a twat of a Manure supporter next to you - if all the potg had bought one ticket ahead of the game they would have a history
 
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jas365

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  • Apr 8, 2024
  • #1,336
mark82 said:
I misread. Thought it was a no points but had bought using the account before. Not entirely sure why you'd create an account and not buy.

Also, if needed, could buy a ticket for one of the remaining games on it, then it would have purchase history.
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My dads account did have history but its been wiped.

You can't buy a ticket for any remaining home game without purchase history.
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Apr 8, 2024
  • #1,337
Evo1883 said:
Should we go to wembley with empty seats , we will be the laughing stock of english football, all to make a few fans who paid for a shirt in 2019 happy .. load of shite
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I'd rather it go like this so I can get a better chance of sitting where I want. The allocation can always be increased at a later window.

The only thing I would have done differently is shorten the windows.

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,338
We've still got all those accounts with under 50 points yet to have a chance for a ticket yet.

If anything all this shows is that when ST holders had the chance to buy 2 tickets they were taking a lot of daytrippers.
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,339
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
We've still got all those accounts with under 50 points yet to have a chance for a ticket yet.

If anything all this shows is that when ST holders had the chance to buy 2 tickets they were taking a lot of daytrippers.
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And all the people you're speaking about?
 

M&B Stand

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,340
Sky Blue Pete said:
Have advised the club
Not sure anything can be done now
Think 2 per season ticket was probably a good idea in hindsight
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Don’t we have something like 19k season ticket holders?? They couldn’t have guaranteed every ST holder a ticket with an allocation of 34K. I get that not everyone would’ve bought 2 but they couldn't’ be sure.

I notice our allocation has been increased to 36k.
The club were damned if they do and damned if they don't on this. The time windows between sales were a bit baffling.
 
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hamertime

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,341
M&B Stand said:
The time windows between sales were a bit baffling.
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100%
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,342
Whatever they do there is always going to be people moaning or saying it’s not fair, but I think they’ve gone about it fairly well.

The only thing they’ve definitely got wrong is the week-long windows, should have been a couple of days as others have said.
 
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richnrg

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,343
PorkySmurf said:
I was having a look at the Man City website and they have allocated one ticket per person in the respective loyalty brackets, however after a certain date everyone can buy an additional 3 tickets. Interestingly, they are at that stage now and still haven't sold all their tickets.
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perhaps they're saving their money so that they can watch the real Sky Blues,
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,344
Just needs two ST windows advertised ahead of time. First window one per ST, then all those with points, then back to STs for two a ticket. Or just allow STs two from the wider window onwards. As long as people can plan which window to go for it’s not an issue.

It’s that or tier the ST holders, but we can’t give everyone two tickets or not all ST holders are guaranteed.
 
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Robinshio

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,345
so they should have announced the maximum sales possible in any window (if 100% take up)
A season ticket holder could have then taken the decision to wait until somebody in a lower priority was able to buy to enable them to sit together

The windows should have been 3 days max each

2 further windows could have been fitted in for STH to buy additional seats and if any left
50+ points to buy additional seats

Either way there will be man u fans in the city end, but we will not avoid that -
 

Skybluecol

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,346
shmmeee said:
Just needs two ST windows advertised ahead of time. First window one per ST, then all those with points, then back to STs for two a ticket. Or just allow STs two from the wider window onwards. As long as people can plan which window to go for it’s not an issue.

It’s that or tier the ST holders, but we can’t give everyone two tickets or not all ST holders are guaranteed.
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Adult STH 2 tickets
Junior STH 1 ticket
Not sure what the split is but could work.
It'll be interesting to see how many are left after Friday once the rest of the registered accounts get their tickets. I can see there being 6k remaining.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,347
PVA said:
Whatever they do there is always going to be people moaning or saying it’s not fair, but I think they’ve gone about it fairly well.

The only thing they’ve definitely got wrong is the week-long windows, should have been a couple of days as others have said.
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Pretty much this, the main issue is the window lengths which is something they did when hey brought the points system in.

Remember the mess that was the Sunderland away game
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,348
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
We've still got all those accounts with under 50 points yet to have a chance for a ticket yet.

If anything all this shows is that when ST holders had the chance to buy 2 tickets they were taking a lot of daytrippers.
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so what if you’ve got less than 50 points you’d hardly a fan anyway
 
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chiefdave

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,349
PorkySmurf said:
I was having a look at the Man City website and they have allocated one ticket per person in the respective loyalty brackets, however after a certain date everyone can buy an additional 3 tickets. Interestingly, they are at that stage now and still haven't sold their allocation.
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This is one of the reasons I don't get all the panic and we'll be a laughing stock type posts. There's 'big' clubs who struggle to sell their allocation

Lets face it, we've been to Wembley multiple times recently and this time round the chances of us winning our incredibly slim, the chances of us getting rolled over with a massive score are not exactly low either. Maybe that's just not an attractive prospect for the casual fan who has been to see us at Wembley several times in recent years when the game is on free to air TV
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,350
chiefdave said:
This is one of the reasons I don't get all the panic and we'll be a laughing stock type posts. There's 'big' clubs who struggle to sell their allocation

Lets face it, we've been to Wembley multiple times recently and this time round the chances of us winning our incredibly slim, the chances of us getting rolled over with a massive score are not exactly low either. Maybe that's just not an attractive prospect for the casual fan who has been to see us at Wembley several times in recent years when the game is on free to air TV
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If season tickets has 2 tickets first it would have sold out - not all would take the option anyway and then the remaining could have gone into the scramble pot
 
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McLovin87

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,351
Just had a quick look on the Ticketmaster website, why does it say you can't buy groups of seats if they leave a single seat on the row. There are loads of single seats dotted around the Upper Tier!
 
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play_in_skyblue_stripes

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,352
PorkySmurf said:
I was having a look at the Man City website and they have allocated one ticket per person in the respective loyalty brackets, however after a certain date everyone can buy an additional 3 tickets. Interestingly, they are at that stage now and still haven't sold their allocation.
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Yes and here is the criteria for semi final tickets



Some other great ideas from Man City
I met some young supporters last season on train after we both had away games. They told me about offer to young supporters to make sure it wasn't a closed shop to older long term supporters.


Idea of memberships give people who live a long way to get savings on home match day pricing

 

biggymania

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,353
McLovin87 said:
Just had a quick look on the Ticketmaster website, why does it say you can't buy groups of seats if they leave a single seat on the row. There are loads of single seats dotted around the Upper Tier!
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I think it's just impossible for the system to enforce that during the big rushes. If you consider that every seat gets "reserved" in the basket for 26 minutes, it would make a tonne of tickets unavailable for adding to basket that are actually unsold, if you try to enforce that in real time.

So I assume this logic works in many cases, but there will always be some weird connotations that end up in single seats being left unsold after each "rush".
 
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ceetee

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,354
I booked four seats for our group at around 2:30 on the first day, after the initial rush,
I didn't get a big choice of blocks with four together but there were lots of light blue dots . I tried clicking on them and on one try got three together but not the fourth. I spotted a group of four dark blue and took them a few rows further back. Perhaps if I had refreshed the screen some of the light blue may have become available but I felt under pressure to book what I could.
biggymania said:
I think it's just impossible for the system to enforce that during the big rushes. If you consider that every seat gets "reserved" in the basket for 26 minutes, it would make a tonne of tickets unavailable for adding to basket that are actually unsold, if you try to enforce that in real time.

So I assume this logic works in many cases, but there will always be some weird connotations that end up in single seats being left unsold after each "rush".
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hamertime

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,355
McLovin87 said:
Just had a quick look on the Ticketmaster website, why does it say you can't buy groups of seats if they leave a single seat on the row. There are loads of single seats dotted around the Upper Tier!
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I suppose if it gets to the point where there are 3 seats left together and you only want 2 it will let you buy them, then leaving the single.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,356
Evo1883 said:
Should we go to wembley with empty seats , we will be the laughing stock of english football, all to make a few fans who paid for a shirt in 2019 happy .. load of shite
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Well, as so many commented after the Crewe home tie Checkatrade 'final' and then the real final of 2017 - 'This shows our potential'
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,357
Once the 50+ points period has passed perhaps the club should also open up to i follow account holders based abroad, many of whom I should imagine would like to come back for the match, but unlikely to be otherwise able to source tickets directly themselves.
 
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tokyojim

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,358
It's weird that having an ifollow season ticket doesn't get you any points. It should count for some points.
 
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SomersetSB

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #1,359
tokyojim said:
It's weird that having an ifollow season ticket doesn't get you any points. It should count for some points.
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Totally agree a good idea
 
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biggymania

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #1,360
Legia Sky Blue said:
Once the 50+ points period has passed perhaps the club should also open up to i follow account holders based abroad, many of whom I should imagine would like to come back for the match, but unlikely to be otherwise able to source tickets directly themselves.
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I think that would be logical and sensible for a landmark game - I am an iFollow season ticket holder and have been since I left the country. That said, I think it has to be considered what revenue the club is making from you (EFL take a good chunk?) vs a fan who buys 5 tickets in a season.

Loyalty schemes are complicated and logistically hard to pull off - I assume including iFollow is non-trivial because it has nothing to do with Ticketmaster. So for boring reasons, I don't see this happening.

I do wish I could get someone at the club to listen though - because there are a few things overseas fans can do that could allow them to accumulate points while still increasing ticket revenue (and matchday revenue) for the club - for example the season ticket donation scheme. I personally bought & donated a season ticket last year so I could travel for the playoff game, but the club wiped the points for that when I transferred the season ticket to the donee (donor?). When I appealed, they refused - which is fair enough as "it's policy" but I do think is a bit short-sighted.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #1,361
biggymania said:
I think it's just impossible for the system to enforce that during the big rushes. If you consider that every seat gets "reserved" in the basket for 26 minutes, it would make a tonne of tickets unavailable for adding to basket that are actually unsold, if you try to enforce that in real time.

So I assume this logic works in many cases, but there will always be some weird connotations that end up in single seats being left unsold after each "rush".
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The 26 minutes is crazy. Presumably people either already have their payment method logged in to the account or their credit card to hand. It’s not like being in a checkout queue waiting whilst people search their purses and handbags for the smallest pieces of shrapnel to make up the exact purchase price.
 

torchomatic

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #1,362
MalcSB said:
The 26 minutes is crazy. Presumably people either already have their payment method logged in to the account or their credit card to hand. It’s not like being in a checkout queue waiting whilst people search their purses and handbags for the smallest pieces of shrapnel to make up the exact purchase price.
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What's annoying for me is that I have to authorize the payment on my Lloyds banking app every time I order tickets. Not a big issue usually, but there have been times when I've not been able to get a signal.
 
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biggymania

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #1,363
MalcSB said:
The 26 minutes is crazy. Presumably people either already have their payment method logged in to the account or their credit card to hand. It’s not like being in a checkout queue waiting whilst people search their purses and handbags for the smallest pieces of shrapnel to make up the exact purchase price.
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I think if you look at the questions you see from pretty die hard supporters here, on twitter & on facebook whenever they have to buy a ticket online - people really struggle with technology you might consider to be really easy to use. So in some cases, 26 minutes might not feel like a lot of time!
 

MalcSB

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #1,364
biggymania said:
I think if you look at the questions you see from pretty die hard supporters here, on twitter & on facebook whenever they have to buy a ticket online - people really struggle with technology you might consider to be really easy to use. So in some cases, 26 minutes might not feel like a lot of time!
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The difficult bit is getting the tickets into the basket. The payment bit is standard and of course those with purchasing history will have used it before. I generally have sympathy with people who struggle with technology but the online checkout is easy.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #1,365
I'm one of the previous purchase history brigade, as is my wife. But she can't go due to being in recovery from surgery. Presumably i can buy hers so that my sister (who doesn't have purchase history) can come with me? They aren't going to be able to carry out ID checks against the ticket stub at the gate, are they?
 
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