Non AMP
Sky Blues Talk
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Coventry City Football Club
  • Football & Other Sports
This is a mobile optimized page that loads fast, if you want to load the real page, click this text.

F1 2021 (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Saddlebrains
  • Start date Mar 25, 2021
Forums New posts
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 8
  • 9
  • 10
  • 11
  • 12
  • …
  • 38
Next
First Prev 10 of 38 Next Last

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #316
Not really a fan of F1 but enjoyed the netflix series so giving it a go today.

How does this compare to other races?
 
D

Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #317
May not even need Leclerc to retire. Anything left in his tyres?
 

SkyBlueSoul

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #318
Verstappen 2nd in Driver of the Day atm
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #319
Liquid Gold said:
Not really a fan of F1 but enjoyed the netflix series so giving it a go today.

How does this compare to other races?
Click to expand...

Hard to say really. If you don’t know the inner workings every race would be boring as fuck.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #320
hill83 said:
Hard to say really. If you don’t know the inner workings every race would be boring as fuck.
Click to expand...
I like the sort of overarching storylines from the show with the rivalries and everything but the race seems a bit dull.

I feel like I could just see a roundup then some interviews and enjoy it more.

I dunno, I'll drop out now as I hate it when people show up in the NFL thread to tell us they're not bothered
 
Reactions: mark82, hill83 and tisza
D

Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #321
Liquid Gold said:
but the race seems a bit dull.
Click to expand...
This is possibly one of the better ones
 
D

Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #322
Deleted member 5849 said:
May not even need Leclerc to retire. Anything left in his tyres?
Click to expand...
Answer's no. Can't help but admire Hamilton's racing, been at his absolute peak for the past few seasons.
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #323
Liquid Gold said:
Not really a fan of F1 but enjoyed the netflix series so giving it a go today.

How does this compare to other races?
Click to expand...
This has been quite exciting because you felt Hamilton could get it.

The entertainment level is much like most races except Monaco. Monaco is boring and not worth it.

This race is typical of the entertainment level though. Usually high enjoyment levels for about a third of the race.
Next season should be better with closer racing from the new cars.
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #324
Hungary next. First corner there will be interesting if it's Lewis & max on front row. Really sharp right handed with a short run in
 

Corrado

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #325
What a race- Red bull were embarrassing with the claims Hamilton should be banned for a race. Very embarrassing. Defo a racing incident unless you want racing to become boring.
 
Reactions: wingy

Paul Anthony

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #326
Turned into quite a race in the end! Wouldn't have been upset at all with a Leclerc win, but Hamilton was just on it for that final stint.

Things are certainly going to be interesting next time Max and Lewis have a battle. Neither of them are going to give an inch.
 

Paul Anthony

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #327
Corrado said:
What a race- Red bull were embarrassing with the claims Hamilton should be banned for a race. Very embarrassing. Defo a racing incident unless you want racing to become boring.
Click to expand...

Think Horner would do well to remember Max's history isn't exactly spotless. He's caused more than his fair share of incidents during his career.
 
Reactions: olderskyblue
D

Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #328
Paul Anthony said:
Think Horner would do well to remember Max's history isn't exactly spotless. He's caused more than his fair share of incidents during his career.
Click to expand...
Meh, it's always their job to stand up for their driver, though. As much here (and he does look genuinely pissed off) is surely to try and make Hamilton a bit more hesitant whenever Verstappen lunges at him, isn't it?
 
R

robofcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #329
Is Little Grass Horner still crying , he like a football player begging ref for a red card
Not a massive Hamilton fan tbh but ffs Horner shut the fuck up and move on racing incident
It happens when you get racers not giving an inch plus crash bandicoot Verstappen caused enough accidents
As for that prick that wants Hamilton suspended for a race , lets cover the cars in bubble wrap shall we idiot
 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #330
52G impact. Thats gone hurt for a few weeks.
 
Reactions: We'll_live_and_die

Paul Anthony

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #331
Deleted member 5849 said:
As much here (and he does look genuinely pissed off) is surely to try and make Hamilton a bit more hesitant whenever Verstappen lunges at him, isn't it?
Click to expand...

While I'm sure that's true, I doubt Lewis cares really what Horner says, in all honesty. If he wants to win this title, he knows he can't afford to back out and let Max get away.
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #332
Paul Anthony said:
While I'm sure that's true, I doubt Lewis cares really what Horner says, in all honesty. If he wants to win this title, he knows he can't afford to back out and let Max get away.
Click to expand...
Max been very aggressive ( but generally fair) when he's raced Lewis this season.
The general 50-50 split in opinion across the media and social media on the incident is interesting.
Can see more incidents coming in the rest of the season. Red Bull reaction does seem fuelled by the impact. If he'd just beached in the gravel would Horner be so vocal?
 
Reactions: Paul Anthony
X

xcraigx

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #333
Max lunged at Hamilton going into the first corner at Spain. Hamilton had the racing line, had position but backed out to avoid Max punting him off. Swings and roundabouts really. Sets things up nicely for Hungary.
 
Reactions: tisza

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #334
Still going under the radar is what a good season Norris continues to have. 3rd in the Championship .
 
Reactions: Frostie and We'll_live_and_die

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #335
Great drive form Hamilton but I want verstappen so would been nice if more of a penalty for the collision
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #336
Im the resident max fan, so of course i see that As Lewis punting max off at 180mph.

Tell you what. The rest of the season will be fireworks. This will be another Rosberg Hamilton battle

 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #337
Saddlebrains said:
View attachment 21042
Click to expand...
Sour grapes! Shut the fuck up buttercup!
 

olderskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #338
Max turned into the corner with no regard to Hamilton being alongside him. He had a clear view of how far up the side of him Lewis was, and just didn’t care. you take big risks like that, then don’t complain when it doesn’t work out.

Max has carried out similar aggressive moves in his career, it’s why drivers say they always give him room, because they know he’ll go for it no matter what.

I thought it was 50/50 tbh
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2021
  • #339
The FIA rules are very clear that the car in front is entitled to the racing line & that the challenger should back out of it.
Lewis went in too hot & completely missed the apex of the corner, without the contact he may not have even made the corner imo.

 
Reactions: Saddlebrains

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #340
For anyone saying Lewis was not alongside, take a look at this
 
D

Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #341
Rich said:
For anyone saying Lewis was not alongside, take a look at this View attachment 21048
Click to expand...
tbf, any driver's going to be alongside when they punt into the side of another car, by definition!

It's more the context that's relevant, for each incident.

(As an aside, I miss the days of Rene Arnoux stubbornly refusing to let cars lap him - that was a fantastic leveller!)
 
W

wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #342
Deleted member 5849 said:
tbf, any driver's going to be alongside when they punt into the side of another car, by definition!

It's more the context that's relevant, for each incident.

(As an aside, I miss the days of Rene Arnoux stubbornly refusing to let cars lap him - that was a fantastic leveller!)
Click to expand...
FFS It's Verstappen who moved across .
Open them eyes.
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #343
Deleted member 5849 said:
tbf, any driver's going to be alongside when they punt into the side of another car, by definition!

It's more the context that's relevant, for each incident.

(As an aside, I miss the days of Rene Arnoux stubbornly refusing to let cars lap him - that was a fantastic leveller!)
Click to expand...
In the coverage I watched at one point they mentioned a few races back Hamilton started on pole, verstappen came up the inside at turn one and Hamilton yielded to avoid a collision.
What’s different here is verstappen didn’t yield and attempt to regain the place later in the race. He decided to try and keep in front despite knowing Hamilton was hot on the inside and would go deep. If Verstappen backed off he may have even got the place back on the exit with a switchback.
 
Reactions: Paul Anthony and Saddlebrains

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #344
Rich said:
For anyone saying Lewis was not alongside, take a look at this View attachment 21048
Click to expand...

He's still not fully alongside though, Verstappen's clearly still ahead & that's also because Lewis has outbraked himself hence completely overshooting the apex as the FIA said in their statement.

There's nothing malicious in it & the slanging match (both directions) is poor. It's an error of judgment which is easily done when you have 2 incredible drivers not wanting to give an inch at 180mph. The galling thing for Max & Red Bull is Lewis has essentially been rewarded for punting his only title rival off so totally get their frustrations.
 
Reactions: Saddlebrains

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #345
Rich said:
In the coverage I watched at one point they mentioned a few races back Hamilton started on pole, verstappen came up the inside at turn one and Hamilton yielded to avoid a collision.
What’s different here is verstappen didn’t yield and attempt to regain the place later in the race. He decided to try and keep in front despite knowing Hamilton was hot on the inside and would go deep. If Verstappen backed off he may have even got the place back on the exit with a switchback.
Click to expand...

It's black & white in the rulebook, the car in front doesn't have to yield, the racing line is his. It's on the car behind to back out of it, hence the penalty for Hamilton.
 
Reactions: montydon87 and Saddlebrains
D

Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #346
Frostie said:
It's black & white in the rulebook, the car in front doesn't have to yield, the racing line is his. It's on the car behind to back out of it, hence the penalty for Hamilton.
Click to expand...
Verstappen's action in a previous race is also, of course, irrelevant as to whether this current one is an appropriate move or not.

You could argue the wise driver gives way and looks at the bigger picture. Verstappen's obviously playing a long game of trying to get in drivers' heads though, where they think they either give way (so give him an easier pass), or risk going out. Now tbf, you could therefore say he brought Sunday on himself, because of that...
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #347
Rich said:
For anyone saying Lewis was not alongside, take a look at this View attachment 21048
Click to expand...


Also in response to that from max camp.

Thats max's corner any day

 
Reactions: montydon87

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #348
Frostie said:
He's still not fully alongside though, Verstappen's clearly still ahead & that's also because Lewis has outbraked himself hence completely overshooting the apex as the FIA said in their statement.

There's nothing malicious in it & the slanging match (both directions) is poor. It's an error of judgment which is easily done when you have 2 incredible drivers not wanting to give an inch at 180mph. The galling thing for Max & Red Bull is Lewis has essentially been rewarded for punting his only title rival off so totally get their frustrations.
Click to expand...
Get Red Bull & Max's frustrations which have obviously been exacerbated by the severity of crash but now it's time for some calmer heads to dial down the rhetoric. Adding fuel to the fire is leading to some shocking racial abuse for Hamilton.
The professionals can't agree whether it was a racing incident or an offense.
Stewards didn't absolve Max of any blame as they found Hamilton "predominantly" responsible hence the 10 second penalty.
 

Paul Anthony

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #349
Saddlebrains said:
Also in response to that from max camp.

Thats max's corner any day

View attachment 21049
Click to expand...

But, again. I'll make the point I made yesterday.

Why would Max, with a 33 point championship lead, not at least anticipate the possibility that Lewis isn't going to back out and leave just a little bit more space. Worst that happens that way is he loses the place, or goes in the run off, probably gets it back later, with what looked a faster race car over a full race distance. He might even have been back ahead by the end of the lap. As wide as Lewis was (offline, dirty part of the track in an F1 car always means understeer) , Max didn't need to squeeze him that hard. He had more room to leave, He can afford to back out. Lewis, with a deficit and up against a car that seemingly has better race pace than the Mercedes, can't afford to keep backing out. Max really should have realised that.


I called the penalty for Lewis immediately, purely on the basis of the Russell/Sainz incident the day before, so the precedent had been set even though it wasn't anywhere near the same severity as this. And, as others have said, the rule is fairly clear about who wins the corner in that type of scenario, so a penalty was almost an inevitability. But, I stand by my point. It was a risk for Max that I don't believe he needed to take. He should have thought about his title lead.
 
Last edited: Jul 19, 2021
Reactions: Saddlebrains
D

Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #350
Paul Anthony said:
sinpoxant afford to keep backing out.
Click to expand...
I don't normally highlight such things, but I really need to know what that autocorrected word means!
 
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 8
  • 9
  • 10
  • 11
  • 12
  • …
  • 38
Next
First Prev 10 of 38 Next Last
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (members: 0, guests: 2)
Share:
Facebook Twitter Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Coventry City Football Club
  • Football & Other Sports
  • Default Style
  • Contact us
  • Terms and rules
  • Privacy policy
  • Help
  • Home
Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2021 XenForo Ltd.
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Home
  • Forums
    • New posts
    • Search forums
  • What's new
    • New posts
    • Latest activity
  • Members
    • Current visitors
  • Donate to the Season Ticket Fund
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?