Experience needed? (1 Viewer)

Fergusons_Beard · Oct 26, 2020

It’s clear to most of us (& yesterday MR alluded to it) that we are in desperate need for a few more options in our squad.

A couple of injuries and suspensions happen and we down to bare bones.

We need to be competitive.

So is it worth offering short term deals to Daniel Sturridge and Jack Wilshere to boost our squad.

Lots of pros and cons.

Yes or No-thoughts?

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SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 26, 2020

ccfcway · Oct 26, 2020

i can think of about 100,000 reasons why those two wont be coming to us

chiefdave · Oct 26, 2020

Who would pay their wages?

SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 26, 2020

Imagine Wilshere’s reaction when we offer him 5k a week and has to play through balls for Kastaneer to chase

Brighton Sky Blue · Oct 26, 2020

chiefdave said:
Who would pay their wages?

Phil McCrack and Norma Stitz

Frostie · Oct 26, 2020

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Imagine Wilshere’s reaction when we offer him 5k a week and has to play through balls for Kastaneer to chase

Exactly - but I wouldn't even offer him that in fairness, you'd basically be paying him to not play.

pastythegreat · Oct 26, 2020

Fergusons_Beard said:
It’s clear to most of us (& yesterday MR alluded to it) that we are in desperate need for a few more options in our squad.

A couple of injuries and suspensions happen and we down to bare bones.

We need to be competitive.

So is it worth offering short term deals to Daniel Sturridge and Jack Wilshere to boost our squad.

Lots of pros and cons.

Yes or No-thoughts?

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We couldn't afford the medical bill of one of them, let alone both of them!

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RFC · Oct 26, 2020

Fergusons_Beard said:
It’s clear to most of us (& yesterday MR alluded to it) that we are in desperate need for a few more options in our squad.

A couple of injuries and suspensions happen and we down to bare bones.

We need to be competitive.

So is it worth offering short term deals to Daniel Sturridge and Jack Wilshere to boost our squad.

Lots of pros and cons.

Yes or No-thoughts?

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RFC · Oct 26, 2020

Simple answer NO!

Liquid Gold · Oct 26, 2020

good to see methadone scripts still being fulfilled during the pandemic

edgy · Oct 26, 2020

Regardless of the player, I dont quite get the arguement of "we cant afford the wages".

Free agents, by nature, arn't earning a wage. And if they haven't got a club at this stage in the season, then they're not going to inundated by offers.

So unless they are ready to retire, then our £X a week is surely better than their current £0 a week?

Brighton Sky Blue · Oct 26, 2020

edgy said:
Regardless of the player, I dont quite get the arguement of "we cant afford the wages".

Free agents, by nature, arn't earning a wage. And if they haven't got a club at this stage in the season, then they're not going to inundated by offers.

So unless they are ready to retire, then our £X a week is surely better than their current £0 a week?

If we came in with an offer it would just start the bidding from clubs who can offer more

ccfcway · Oct 26, 2020

edgy said:
Regardless of the player, I dont quite get the arguement of "we cant afford the wages".

Free agents, by nature, arn't earning a wage. And if they haven't got a club at this stage in the season, then they're not going to inundated by offers.

So unless they are ready to retire, then our £X a week is surely better than their current £0 a week?

or it’s because they don’t have to accept any offer, they are both multi millionaires and don’t have to work again so can be very picky about where they go

edgy · Oct 26, 2020

Why does it take an offer from us to start a bidding war for a free agent?

The player's agents will have contacted many clubs months ago. None of those clubs fancied taking the player on (the most likely situation) or they didnt want to match wage demands at that time.

So the player has to decide, do I want to play or not. If he wants to play then previous wage demands cant be taken into consideration now.

pastythegreat · Oct 26, 2020

edgy said:
Regardless of the player, I dont quite get the arguement of "we cant afford the wages".

Free agents, by nature, arn't earning a wage. And if they haven't got a club at this stage in the season, then they're not going to inundated by offers.

So unless they are ready to retire, then our £X a week is surely better than their current £0 a week?

Their agents will also be saying that once you sign a cheap deal, you won't be able to then sign the better deal when/if a club with more money comes in with an offer.

If you have a certain skill and know you could earn £1k+ per week, would you start a new job for a minimum of 12 months say, on £400 a week because you were momentarily unemployed?

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edgy · Oct 26, 2020

pastythegreat said:
Their agents will also be saying that once you sign a cheap deal, you won't be able to then sign the better deal when/if a club with more money comes in with an offer.

If you have a certain skill and know you could earn £1k+ per week, would you start a new job for a minimum of 12 months say, on £400 a week because you were momentarily unemployed?

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Depends on how long you think that "moment" will last. If their skills were still worth that "£1k" per week, then they wouldve still been in employement.

SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 26, 2020

It’s like saying Eddie Howe would go to Southend United if they made an offer

pastythegreat · Oct 26, 2020

edgy said:
Depends on how long you think that "moment" will last. If their skills were still worth that "£1k" per week, then they wouldve still been in employement.

As a footballer with their ability, youve got to back yourself that with injuries and Covid etc, come January you SHOULD be able to pick up a lower half Premier league deal. To sign for a Premier league club for 6 months would still make them at least treble what we could offer them for 12 months.

IF come January you still have no offers, THEN you'd look in to lowering your demands. Moving lower down the pyramid, accepting a lesser wage. All of this also depends if you actually want to carry on working or if you just want to retire.

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Brighton Sky Blue · Oct 26, 2020

edgy said:
Why does it take an offer from us to start a bidding war for a free agent?

The player's agents will have contacted many clubs months ago. None of those clubs fancied taking the player on (the most likely situation) or they didnt want to match wage demands at that time.

So the player has to decide, do I want to play or not. If he wants to play then previous wage demands cant be taken into consideration now.

Or the agent comes to us and suggests the player’s interested just so we offer and get the ball rolling. Standard practice

Jamesimus · Oct 26, 2020

Sounds like the O.P. has carried their Sunday session through to Monday afternoon to ease the pain of the Blackburn result

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee · Oct 26, 2020

In a forum full of strange threads this is right up there. Two players who's most recent contract has probably seen them earn around £100k a week being suggested as suitable experience for a team scrapping near the foot of the Championship table, then someone suggesting that we can afford their wages as they're not earning anything currently. I don't think Pochettino is currently applying for jobs at his local Co-op.

Deleted member 2477 · Oct 26, 2020

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Lol

Yep we could get Julian Jochim, david Bell and carl Baker back as well.
Stop flapping and who is going to pay the wages of all these hasbeens you want ?

lord_garrincha · Oct 26, 2020

Are current budget means we are more likely to bring in his uncle Dean!

Jamesimus · Oct 26, 2020

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
In a forum full of strange threads this is right up there. Two players who's most recent contract has probably seen them earn around £100k a week being suggested as suitable experience for a team scrapping near the foot of the Championship table, then someone suggesting that we can afford their wages as they're not earning anything currently. I don't think Pochettino is currently applying for jobs at his local Co-op.

He could probably get a decent management job at Co-op thanks to his experience, so personally I think he should at least try if he's struggling...

Evo1883 · Oct 26, 2020

Even if we signed sturridge and wilshere... We'd get 45 minutes from them combined before they went sick

fernandopartridge · Oct 26, 2020

Ignoring the other points already made, neither Wilshere or Sturridge has any experience of a newly promoted team struggling towards the bottom of the Championship.

Jamesimus · Oct 26, 2020

Had to double check I wasn't on the Facebook forum when I first saw this one

Deleted member 2477 · Oct 26, 2020

You have started another thread telling everyone to stay calm with the team. Perhaps you need to remind yourself of it

chiefdave · Oct 26, 2020

edgy said:
Why does it take an offer from us to start a bidding war for a free agent?

The player's agents will have contacted many clubs months ago. None of those clubs fancied taking the player on (the most likely situation) or they didnt want to match wage demands at that time.

So the player has to decide, do I want to play or not. If he wants to play then previous wage demands cant be taken into consideration now.

Your making the assumption that they've had no offers from elsewhere. Could well be they've had offers with big wages from places like China or the US and are just taking their time deciding what to do. Even if they haven't they might be doing media work which is more attractive to them than a relegation battle.

Pretty sure Robins isn't sat on a big pile of cash refusing to sign players. He was happy to cast aside players who got us from L2 to L1, no reason to think he wouldn't do the same now if he had the funds available.

Hadji's_Goatee · Oct 26, 2020

Fergusons_Beard said:
It’s clear to most of us (& yesterday MR alluded to it) that we are in desperate need for a few more options in our squad.

A couple of injuries and suspensions happen and we down to bare bones.

We need to be competitive.

So is it worth offering short term deals to Daniel Sturridge and Jack Wilshere to boost our squad.

Lots of pros and cons.

Yes or No-thoughts?

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pastythegreat · Oct 26, 2020

Hadji's_Goatee said:

Ha, love that GIF. Never seen it before

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robbiekeane · Oct 26, 2020

SlowerThanPlatt said:
It’s like saying Eddie Howe would go to Southend United if they made an offer

Exactly, ridiculous

robbiekeane · Oct 26, 2020

OP definitely on the wind up lol

Jamieb87ccfc · Oct 26, 2020

If we did want experience it would by better going for Jackson Irvine & Andy King or Huddleston and eve there wages would sadly be too high for us.

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