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harvey098

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,231
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Cracking assist from Jodi Jones today for Notts County’s winner.

Notts County 3-2 Grimsby Town | League Two highlights

Highlights of the Sky Bet League Two match between Notts County and Grimsby Town.
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Love seeing him do well. Genuine bloke is JJ
 
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covcity4life

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,232
PVA said:
Just saw some Portuguese lad on twitter saying he can already see Gyokeres is too good for the league and another replies to say enjoy it while it lasts because he'll only be there for one season

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Do we definitely have a sell on clause?
 

Skybluemichael

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,233
covcity4life said:
Do we definitely have a sell on clause?
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covcity4life

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,234
Skybluemichael said:
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Assuming if transfer hits 24m then it goes from 15 to 10 percent

Look forward to seeing him smash it every week then and be sold for 30m plus

Could buy us one player outright.
 
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procdoc

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,235
Maatsen on the bench for Chelsea
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,236
Maatsen comes on for Chelsea v Liverpool.

I don't think some people appreciated just how good he was/would be.
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,237
Already looks out of his depth.
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,238
SIR ERNIE said:
Already looks out of his depth.
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3 or 4 misplaced passes, caught in possession. Only been on 5 mins.
 
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procdoc

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,239
SIR ERNIE said:
3 or 4 misplaced passes, caught in possession. Only been on 5 mins.
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Bit like Van Ewijk on his debut for us then. Probably a bit nervous. Maatsen will go on to have a fantastic career
 
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covcity4life

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,240
PVA said:
Maatsen comes on for Chelsea v Liverpool.

I don't think some people appreciated just how good he was/would be.
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Rmemeber the usual haters sayibg he's league 1 level and will never play in prem lol
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,241
covcity4life said:
Rmemeber the usual haters sayibg he's league 1 level and will never play in prem lol
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People actually said Bidwell was better (and that's no slight on Bidwell).
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,242
PVA said:
People actually said Bidwell was better (and that's no slight on Bidwell).
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He has been... for us.

I know it's a remarkable thing that a player's career waxes and wanes, and you can't judge what was by what is, but there you go
 
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covcity4life

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,243
Deleted member 5849 said:
He has been... for us.

I know it's a remarkable thing that a player's career waxes and wanes, and you can't judge what was by what is, but there you go
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That's fine but people were actually saying maatsen won't amount to anything and those that rate him were delusional
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,244
Deleted member 5849 said:
He has been... for us.

I know it's a remarkable thing that a player's career waxes and wanes, and you can't judge what was by what is, but there you go
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Its a very predictable line with him
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,245
Deleted member 5849 said:
He has been... for us.

I know it's a remarkable thing that a player's career waxes and wanes, and you can't judge what was by what is, but there you go
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That’s not the same though for instance simms isn’t as good as wright currently but simms has and will play in the premier league not sure wright will
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,246
Deleted member 5849 said:
He has been... for us.

I know it's a remarkable thing that a player's career waxes and wanes, and you can't judge what was by what is, but there you go
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I think he was better than Bidwell that season, and I think Robins thought so too.

Again, that's not a criticism of Bidwell.
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,247
procdoc said:
Bit like Van Ewijk on his debut for us then. Probably a bit nervous. Maatsen will go on to have a fantastic career
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Yes obviously nervous, understandably and he'll have a good career.
Personally doubt whether he'll ever hold down a first team place at a club like Chelsea.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,248
SIR ERNIE said:
Yes obviously nervous, understandably and he'll have a good career.
Personally doubt whether he'll ever hold down a first team place at a club like Chelsea.
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He didn’t cost enough
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,249
PVA said:
I think he was better than Bidwell that season, and I think Robins thought so too.

Again, that's not a criticism of Bidwell.
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You keep saying “not a criticism” when it clearly is. The one game robins played esbrand over him we were subjected to tiresome emojis and the comment “robins really hates Bidwell doesn’t he”
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,250
Grendel said:
You keep saying “not a criticism” when it clearly is. The one game robins played esbrand over him we were subjected to tiresome emojis and the comment “robins really hates Bidwell doesn’t he”
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How is it?

I can say I think Messi is better than Ronaldo, doesn't mean I'm criticising Ronaldo ffs.
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,251
covcity4life said:
Rmemeber the usual haters sayibg he's league 1 level and will never play in prem lol
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'haters'
 
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Tomh111

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,252
Sky Blue Pete said:
That’s not the same though for instance simms isn’t as good as wright currently but simms has and will play in the premier league not sure wright will
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Well they both will next season...
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,253
PVA said:
How is it?

I can say I think Messi is better than Ronaldo, doesn't mean I'm criticising Ronaldo ffs.
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The fact that you said “robins clearly hates bidwell” which was stupid

The fact when we signed that loser from Crystal Palace you said he’d be taking Bidwells place

Anyone can try and make caveats

it’s what Danny does as well but it doesn’t mean they are true

It’s just examples of your desire to be popular and accepted with a forum group
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,254
Grendel said:
It’s just examples of your desire to be popular and accepted with a forum group
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What the fuck are you on about? Absolute weirdo
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,255
PVA said:
What the fuck are you on about? Absolute weirdo
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It’s a desire for acceptance by trying to caveat any negativity

Not too hard to work out
 
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procdoc

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,256
We were an early part of Maatsen’s development like Charlton were the season before. He was nowhere near the finished article but he was still good for us. I said at the time he will develop into a quality player. He then played most weeks for Burnley, who went on to achieve the league title and 100 points.
Im not saying he will become world class or even break into the Chelsea team on a regular basis, however he will have career in Europe’s top leagues and will no doubt become a full international for Holland.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,257
procdoc said:
We were an early part of Maatsen’s development like Charlton were the season before. He was nowhere near the finished article but he was still good for us. I said at the time he will develop into a quality player. He then played most weeks for Burnley, who went on to achieve the league title and 100 points.
Im not saying he will become world class or even break into the Chelsea team on a regular basis, however he will have career in Europe’s top leagues and will no doubt become a full international for Holland.
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Yeah Chelsea are going to offer him a new contract. West Ham and Ajax are interested in a loan once he signs the new deal. He has a great future I think.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,258
procdoc said:
We were an early part of Maatsen’s development like Charlton were the season before. He was nowhere near the finished article but he was still good for us. I said at the time he will develop into a quality player. He then played most weeks for Burnley, who went on to achieve the league title and 100 points.
Im not saying he will become world class or even break into the Chelsea team on a regular basis, however he will have career in Europe’s top leagues and will no doubt become a full international for Holland.
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The modern day Van Aanholt
 

Frostie

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,259
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #6,260
Skybluemichael said:
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100 million release clause, wow 15% of that, lovely jubbly.
 
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larry_david

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  • Aug 14, 2023
  • #6,261
Frostie said:
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If that's his level, no offence to him, but that was a (low cost) gamble that never had a chance of paying off.
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • Aug 14, 2023
  • #6,262
covcity4life said:
Assuming if transfer hits 24m then it goes from 15 to 10 percent

Look forward to seeing him smash it every week then and be sold for 30m plus

Could buy us one player outright.
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Sorry CC4L, just saw this.

Think I'm correct in thinking €24M is what the deal was for him going from us to them.

The new deal has a €100M release clause. This could get exciting if he tears up Europe like they think he will.





And I've now just read the rest of the thread and @COVKIDSNEVERQUIT has already pointed this out..... D'oh !

 

The Philosopher

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  • Aug 14, 2023
  • #6,263
larry_david said:
If that's his level, no offence to him, but that was a (low cost) gamble that never had a chance of paying off.
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Sometimes these gambles work (McCallum) sometimes they don’t.

To say there was never a chance of it paying off isn’t quite true - you never know.

The next stage of our development model should be to expand our u23 / u21 groups with outbound loan opportunities for several youngsters.

There are rough diamonds out there, and as MR said yesterday - we have a development model in place.

The Abel Alabi gamble should be seen as a positive- better to try and not succeed than to not bother.
 

The Philosopher

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  • Aug 14, 2023
  • #6,264
Happy_Martian said:
Sorry CC4L, just saw this.

Think I'm correct in thinking €24M is what the deal was for him going from us to them.

The new deal has a €100M release clause. This could get exciting if he tears up Europe like they think he will.

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Maybe that means that if they pay the 4m add in then the sell on is 10% of the capital gain (as such)?

So, if they win league or he gets 20 goals and they pay the 4m, sell him for 44m, we get 10% of 20m uplift/cap gain?
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • Aug 14, 2023
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Deleted member 5849 said:
The modern day Van Aanholt
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PVA now well established in the PSV Eindhoven team. And he's 32 !!! Incredible how fast he's aged. Or did we really have him here a decade ago ?
 
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