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  • Thread starter Chicken Mcgraw
  • Start date Yesterday at 9:28 AM
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Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Yesterday at 9:28 AM
  • #1
Can anyone involved please explain to me why I should be booing Liam Walsh but applauding Kasey Palmer?

Same applies to Hamer and O’hare?

Only reason I can think of is that the people involved didn’t bother to watch the Birmingham season and have no idea what Walsh and O’hare achieved with us. Any of the main players in that season should always be appreciated. Our only league title win in decades and yet two of the stars are booed. I hope they know how much they are adored by those that attended.

Kasey Palmer achieved nothing with the club and actively pushed for a move. Same for Hamer. If they’d contributed to a league title win, I could understand the applause.

Can any of singers corner spell it out for me?
 
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SwanLane

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  • Yesterday at 9:40 AM
  • #2
Agree with you about the importance of O’Hare and Walsh. But you lost me when you reduced Hamer’s contribution to ‘achieved nothing’.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 9:41 AM
  • #3
Singers corner are too busy throwing piss over each other to explain
 
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Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Yesterday at 9:42 AM
  • #4
SwanLane said:
Agree with you about the importance of O’Hare and Walsh. But you lost me when you reduced Hamer’s contribution to ‘achieved nothing’.
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An exaggeration, but I meant in terms of one won a league title and the other didn’t. I understand what Hamer contributed.
 
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Nick

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  • Yesterday at 9:43 AM
  • #5
Crowd will go mad for Dom Hyam and boo Sam McCallum
 

Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Yesterday at 9:44 AM
  • #6
Ccfcisparks said:
Singers corner are too busy throwing piss over each other to explain
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The shouting at the ref when the opposition has a corner? Makes sense when we are 1-0 up but why are we trying to waste time at 0-0 in games we need to win? Same folk start crying when the opposition keeper doesn’t take a goal kick instantly.
 
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Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Yesterday at 9:46 AM
  • #7
Nick said:
Crowd will go mad for Dom Hyam and boo Sam McCallum
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Dom Hyam part of a very limited group who have achieved 2 promotions at the club. Would be well deserving of an applause. Don’t understand your post.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Yesterday at 9:47 AM
  • #8
I'm baffled by the love in for Palmer, as you say didn't really achieve anything, can't even think of any particularly great moments he gave us. Was highly inconsistent and pushed for the Hull move to get a better salary. I don't hate him or anything but the clapping on Saturday was embarrassing.
 
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edgy

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  • Yesterday at 9:52 AM
  • #9
I think the affinity with Palmer probably stems from the racism he received from Sheff Wed fans.

We backed him up after that and that probably plays through to giving him applause now.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Yesterday at 9:52 AM
  • #10
The booing of CoH and applause for Palmer is just embarrassing.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 5:37 PM
  • #11
The O'Hare stuff was pantomime booing really. I would be very disappointed with it if it happens this season.

In regard to the applause for Palmer I think it was a reaction to a bit of initial booing by some of the crowd, as happened when Maddison came on for Spurs against us last season. If I remember right O'Hare was applauded (by some anyway) when he was substituted in our game last season, but if he gets booed by some of our crowd this season, then I hope it is drowned out by applause, as happened for by Palmer and Maddison. I don't want to see any ex player being applauded as they are about to take a corner or a free kick against us though!

As for the reasons why Palmer was applauded, as some have said it is likely to have much to do with the Sheffield Wednesday incident, although he was also quite approachable to fans when he was here. I'm sure I've also read about him leading the singing of WLADITT at the end of season awards, and PUSB at a London train station, so appealing to the tribal element of our support.
 

covcity4life

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  • Yesterday at 6:05 PM
  • #12
I don't see point in booing any ex player unless they left under bad circumstances

Walsh is one I was thinking of yesterday. He should be remembered as a league 1 hero. Why the fuck would anyone boo him?
 
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Irish Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 10:41 PM
  • #13
Wasn’t Liam Walsh player of the season in the promotion year? A great player for us and never gave less than 100%. Why he should be the subject of booing I certainly don’t understand. I thought he was the best player on the pitch last night as he has been in the three previous appearances against us.
 
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itsabuzzard

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  • Yesterday at 10:43 PM
  • #14
Ccfcisparks said:
Singers corner are too busy throwing piss over each other to explain
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This makes much more sense than the recently in vogue practice of lobbing gallons of beer in the air.
 
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SkyBlueBarmy84

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  • Today at 8:26 AM
  • #15
I think it’s due to perceived loyalty, rather than what they achieved when playing for us. Loyal = Players who were sold. Disloyal = Players who rejected us in some way.

Walsh: POS. Then turned down the chance to join us.. (allegedly). Booooo!

O’Hare: Cult hero. Rejected a contract offer, and left on a free. Boooo!

Hamer: Cult hero. Sold. Made us £16m.

Palmer: Victim of racism. Sold.
 
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Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Today at 8:27 AM
  • #16
SkyBlueBarmy84 said:
I think it’s due to perceived loyalty, rather than what they achieved when playing for us. Loyal = Players who were sold. Disloyal = Players who rejected us in some way.

Walsh: POS. Then turned down the chance to join us.. (allegedly). Booooo!

O’Hare: Cult hero. Rejected a contract offer, and left on a free. Boooo!

Hamer: Cult hero. Sold. Made us £16m.

Palmer: Victim of racism. Sold.
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So a load of bollocks basically
 
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SkyBlueSam01

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  • Today at 8:41 AM
  • #17
SkyBlueBarmy84 said:
I think it’s due to perceived loyalty, rather than what they achieved when playing for us. Loyal = Players who were sold. Disloyal = Players who rejected us in some way.

Walsh: POS. Then turned down the chance to join us.. (allegedly). Booooo!

O’Hare: Cult hero. Rejected a contract offer, and left on a free. Boooo!

Hamer: Cult hero. Sold. Made us £16m.

Palmer: Victim of racism. Sold.
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Think this is basically it

Utterly bizarre and pretty disappointing that so many have forgotten where we came from and how we got back to challenging to get back in the Prem
 
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Otis

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  • Today at 8:43 AM
  • #18
Legia Sky Blue said:
The O'Hare stuff was pantomime booing really. I would be very disappointed with it if it happens this season.

In regard to the applause for Palmer I think it was a reaction to a bit of initial booing by some of the crowd, as happened when Maddison came on for Spurs against us last season. If I remember right O'Hare was applauded (by some anyway) when he was substituted in our game last season, but if he gets booed by some of our crowd this season, then I hope it is drowned out by applause, as happened for by Palmer and Maddison. I don't want to see any ex player being applauded as they are about to take a corner or a free kick against us though!

As for the reasons why Palmer was applauded, as some have said it is likely to have much to do with the Sheffield Wednesday incident, although he was also quite approachable to fans when he was here. I'm sure I've also read about him leading the singing of WLADITT at the end of season awards, and PUSB at a London train station, so appealing to the tribal element of our support.
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100%, surely on the Palmer applause. I don't get the bafflement

We completely backed him when he got all that horrible racist abuse and I think that's the reason for the applause.

Put it another way, after receiving all that racial abuse, booing him would give off totally the wrong vibes

Bottom line is, he shouldn't have been booed or applauded
 
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Domo

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  • Today at 8:46 AM
  • #19
SkyBlueBarmy84 said:
I think it’s due to perceived loyalty, rather than what they achieved when playing for us. Loyal = Players who were sold. Disloyal = Players who rejected us in some way.

Walsh: POS. Then turned down the chance to join us.. (allegedly). Booooo!

O’Hare: Cult hero. Rejected a contract offer, and left on a free. Boooo!

Hamer: Cult hero. Sold. Made us £16m.

Palmer: Victim of racism. Sold.
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This is esentially it isnt it.

if we heard, for example, that rudi turned down our offer and went on a free, he would be booed, but if we got 30m would be clapped.
palmer: most didnt want to keep, and was sold almost randomly and we found out one morning.
Hyam apparently didnt even want to leave, so, he gets clapped.


from all of this we still have no real knowledge apart from apparent ITKs
 
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Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Today at 8:49 AM
  • #20
Domo said:
This is esentially it isnt it.

if we heard, for example, that rudi turned down our offer and went on a free, he would be booed, but if we got 30m would be clapped.
palmer: most didnt want to keep, and was sold almost randomly and we found out one morning.
Hyam apparently didnt even want to leave, so, he gets clapped.


from all of this we still have no real knowledge apart from apparent ITKs
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What a load of nonsense. Walsh was a loan player and O’hare left as his contract was done. Both Palmer and Hamer forced moves late in the window and we were unable to replace either.

It’s far more likely that these fans have no idea of Walsh’s or O’hare’s contributions as they’ve only started supporting again since we got promoted. Same applies to a lot on here and they’re easy to spot (hatred of Godden, Dabo, Kelly etc).
 

Danceswithhorses

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  • Today at 9:38 AM
  • #21
Whilst i'd personally hesitate to boo any ex player (except Bellamy), iirc Palmer left us in the lurch (positionally) with his last minute transfer to hull, and no time to find a replacement (according to MR).
That said, we did get money for a massively inconsistent player on inflated wages, so it eventually worked out in our favour.
 

Moff

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  • Today at 9:42 AM
  • #22
SkyBlueBarmy84 said:
I think it’s due to perceived loyalty, rather than what they achieved when playing for us. Loyal = Players who were sold. Disloyal = Players who rejected us in some way.

Walsh: POS. Then turned down the chance to join us.. (allegedly). Booooo!

O’Hare: Cult hero. Rejected a contract offer, and left on a free. Boooo!

Hamer: Cult hero. Sold. Made us £16m.

Palmer: Victim of racism. Sold.
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I don't think the Blades helped the animosity against O'Hare going, with their videos hinting at who was signing, with the Sunglasses which were related to when he was with us, and nothing to do with them.
The fact O'Hare took part in them grinning like the village idiot did him no favours.
 
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Levship20

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  • Today at 9:47 AM
  • #23
Irish Sky Blue said:
Wasn’t Liam Walsh player of the season in the promotion year? A great player for us and never gave less than 100%. Why he should be the subject of booing I certainly don’t understand. I thought he was the best player on the pitch last night as he has been in the three previous appearances against us.
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I would love him back here if he could stay injury free
 

Sick Boy

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  • Today at 9:51 AM
  • #24
Danceswithhorses said:
Whilst i'd personally hesitate to boo any ex player (except Bellamy), iirc Palmer left us in the lurch (positionally) with his last minute transfer to hull, and no time to find a replacement (according to MR).
That said, we did get money for a massively inconsistent player on inflated wages, so it eventually worked out in our favour.
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Getting a fee for Palmer was a great piece of business. He did well to find someone to take him on at this level.
 
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rob9872

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  • Today at 10:22 AM
  • #25
Moff said:
I don't think the Blades helped the animosity against O'Hare going, with their videos hinting at who was signing, with the Sunglasses which were related to when he was with us, and nothing to do with them.
The fact O'Hare took part in them grinning like the village idiot did him no favours.
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And his own video about the fruit in Spain etc although that shite and tge fake accent annoyed me about him whilst he was here too.
 
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Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Today at 10:24 AM
  • #26
rob9872 said:
And his own video about the fruit in Spain etc although that shite and tge fake accent annoyed me about him whilst he was here too.
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We boo a player who helped us to win a league title because he made a Tik Tok in Spain and talks funny (same fake accent as Rudoni). I’ve heard it all now
 
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oneofourown

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  • Today at 10:33 AM
  • #27
I don't know why people get excited by it. It's pure pantomime.

Your initial question was aimed at singer's corner and although this can be where most songs originate, trying to get any sense out of anyone during match-time seated there is like dipping your head in a bucket of water and singing yankie doodle dandy, meaningless and unaudible.
 
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SwanLane

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  • Today at 1:35 PM
  • #28
IIRC after his efforts for us in League 1, Walsh was recalled by Bristol City who took up an option to extend his contract. When they did end up releasing him. It was known that his partner was settled in Bristol and he didn’t want to move. Did we actually try to sign him again before he joined Swansea or was that just rumours?

A shame his career hasn’t panned out how he might have hoped. Injuries and manager changes seem to have taken their toll. Looked like a kid with a very bright future when he played for us.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 1:40 PM
  • #29
Liam Walsh was red carded against us earlier this season and was generally a bit of a shithouse... That's probably why he was booed.

The clapping for ex-players is tinpot.
 
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Para1140

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  • Today at 1:46 PM
  • #30
Any applause for ex players should be left until the end of the game.
clapping Hamar when he was about to take a corner into our goalmouth was embarrassing. You might as well celebrate the goal he scored against us last season taking three points
 
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SkyBlueBarmy84

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  • Today at 5:35 PM
  • #31
I always think that recognising a player or manager should be before the game - not during or after it - give them a warm welcome, show our respect/appreciation…until kick off

The only exception for me - during a game - is when an opposition player has shown an outrageous piece of skill or scored an incredible goal - even though I’m annoyed that we’ve conceded - it’s appreciation and acknowledgement of the ‘beautiful game’.

A lot of people - me included - applauded THAT Hamer free kick last season. I wasn’t happy he’d scored, but the technique / execution was incredible.
 

baldy

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  • Today at 6:23 PM
  • #32
SkyBlueBarmy84 said:
I always think that recognising a player or manager should be before the game - not during or after it - give them a warm welcome, show our respect/appreciation…until kick off

The only exception for me - during a game - is when an opposition player has shown an outrageous piece of skill or scored an incredible goal - even though I’m annoyed that we’ve conceded - it’s appreciation and acknowledgement of the ‘beautiful game’.

A lot of people - me included - applauded THAT Hamer free kick last season. I wasn’t happy he’d scored, but the technique / execution was incredible.
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Why the fuck would you applaud a goal,no matter how good,against us? Bizarre & weird
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Today at 7:21 PM
  • #33
I dunno what the fuss is about. Fans have booed/clapped ex players since I can remember. Who gives a shit?
Seems like just something else to pretend to be angry about. It really makes no difference to anyone.
 
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Rodders1

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  • Today at 7:41 PM
  • #34
Para1140 said:
Any applause for ex players should be left until the end of the game.
clapping Hamar when he was about to take a corner into our goalmouth was embarrassing. You might as well celebrate the goal he scored against us last season taking three points
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Exactly. Before / after a game is the done thing. During the game is just simply embarrassing.

O’Hare got a clap from the City away fans at Bramall Lane after the game last season - which was great.
 
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