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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #246
Terry_dactyl said:
I went on internet safety training some years ago. One of the things the trainer said that as a society we just handed over access to the internet to our kids - without any real thought about how this might develop. They can occupy whole worlds that parents have no access to or knowledge of.
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I’d go as far as to say it’s taken children’s innocence away considering how young some are when handed a smartphone without much restriction. Open to all kinds of things and a parent won’t realise.

The kind of bullying that happens now will only turn physical at the end of harassment on whatever social media platforms someone’s on. Some of the stuff I’ve seen in my school from Year 7 alone would genuinely shock you.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #247
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’d go as far as to say it’s taken children’s innocence away considering how young some are when handed a smartphone without much restriction. Open to all kinds of things and a parent won’t realise.

The kind of bullying that happens now will only turn physical at the end of harassment on whatever social media platforms someone’s on. Some of the stuff I’ve seen in my school from Year 7 alone would genuinely shock you.
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When I was at school 2 year 7s smashed each other with rounders bats and broken each other’s noses, it’s always been there.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #248
wingy said:
Yes seems two two involved from the school were highly accurate in assessment but as ever social workers were, well just tardy.
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My own experience is risk is dealt with very poorly indeed
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2022
  • #249
Grim

Woman accused of murdering baby she was hoping to adopt stands trial

Laura Castle, 38, and her husband Scott Castle, 35, are accused of killing one-year-old Leiland-James Corkill after his mother allegedly inflicted a serious head injury at the family home in Eskdale Avenue.
www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2022
  • #250
Grendel said:
Grim

Woman accused of murdering baby she was hoping to adopt stands trial

Laura Castle, 38, and her husband Scott Castle, 35, are accused of killing one-year-old Leiland-James Corkill after his mother allegedly inflicted a serious head injury at the family home in Eskdale Avenue.
www.dailymail.co.uk
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What's worse is that she obviously recognised she was doing wrong, if the fostering wasn't working she should have just contacted social services and allowed them to find somebody else
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 5, 2022
  • #251
Lovely - lock up your children she’s coming out

Baby P: Tracey Connelly set to be released from prison after government challenge rejected

Baby P was found dead in his cot in 2007 having suffered catastrophic injuries and his mother was jailed for allowing his death, while her lover and their lodger were also convicted.
news.sky.com
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 6, 2022
  • #252
Grendel said:
Lovely - lock up your children she’s coming out

Baby P: Tracey Connelly set to be released from prison after government challenge rejected

Baby P was found dead in his cot in 2007 having suffered catastrophic injuries and his mother was jailed for allowing his death, while her lover and their lodger were also convicted.
news.sky.com
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This is all very well choreographed for the minister to try and claim greater power, far more worrying than her release from jail
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #253
Well another charming incident - possibly the worst yet - another failure of the social services system - and this delightful trio will possibly one day experience freedom again no doubt in the teenage nut jobs case with a new identity at tax payer expense

Logan Mwangi murder: Mum, stepdad and teen sentenced - BBC News

A judge says the attack on the "defenceless" Logan Mwangi was "nothing short of horrifying".
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #254
Saw that, the bloke was from Cov.

How the fuck can a 13-14 year old be involved with something like that.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #255
Nick said:
Saw that, the bloke was from Cov.

How the fuck can a 13-14 year old be involved with something like that.
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Well his history shows he’s a serial killer in the making - animal torture obsessed with murder and death but hey total surprise to social services.
 

eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #256
Nick said:
Saw that, the bloke was from Cov.

How the fuck can a 13-14 year old be involved with something like that.
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Weird thing is he was with his step dad and his partner so he's not even his kid. The programme about it last night was really sad.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #257
Grendel said:
Well his history shows he’s a serial killer in the making - animal torture obsessed with murder and death but hey total surprise to social services.
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I didn't know that, yeah he is clearly fucked up.

Get him put down and save everybody the bother.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #258
Grendel said:
Well another charming incident - possibly the worst yet - another failure of the social services system - and this delightful trio will possibly one day experience freedom again no doubt in the teenage nut jobs case with a new identity at tax payer expense

Logan Mwangi murder: Mum, stepdad and teen sentenced - BBC News

A judge says the attack on the "defenceless" Logan Mwangi was "nothing short of horrifying".
www.bbc.co.uk
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What would you suggest - lock the 14 year old up for life, or just murder him as well?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #259
SBT said:
What would you suggest - lock the 14 year old up for life, or just murder him as well?
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Would you release him? How did that work with Mr Venables? If he was a dog he’s be put down - he’s worse than a dog.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #260
Grendel said:
Would you release him? How did that work with Mr Venables? If he was a dog he’s be put down - he’s worse than a dog.
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I think the British legal system would be pretty clear in giving him more rights than a dog. And executing a deranged 14 year-old boy who's been raised by two murderers wouldn't even fly in Iran.

I think it's pretty clear that he should be either imprisoned or under close psychiatric evaluation (if not both) for most of his life until it can be proved he's no longer a danger to society.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #261
SBT said:
I think the British legal system would be pretty clear in giving him more rights than a dog. And executing a deranged 14 year-old boy who's been raised by two murderers wouldn't even fly in Iran.

I think it's pretty clear that he should be either imprisoned or under close psychiatric evaluation (if not both) for most of his life until it can be proved he's no longer a danger to society.
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Venables was no longer a danger according to the British Legal System.
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #262
Nick said:
Venables was no longer a danger according to the British Legal System.
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Clearly an appalling error of judgment. Would you rather that same legal system was permitted to execute children, and just hope we don't get the same kind of errors?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #263
SBT said:
Clearly an appalling error of judgment. Would you rather that same legal system was permitted to execute children, and just hope we don't get the same kind of errors?
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It would depend on the circumstances and the child.

Not just children, adults too.

Sometimes there are just absolute wrong uns which can never be changed.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #264
Nick said:
It would depend on the circumstances and the child.

Not just children, adults too.

Sometimes there are just absolute wrong uns which can never be changed.
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Like the Birmingham Six, for example?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #265
SBT said:
Like the Birmingham Six, for example?
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It would depend on the evidence and the strength of the conviction.

Whilst I have no doubt there are still miscarriages of justice, with advances in DNA etc it's a lot different to the 70s now.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #266
Nick said:
It would depend on the evidence and the strength of the conviction.

Whilst I have no doubt there are still miscarriages of justice, with advances in DNA etc it's a lot different to the 70s now.
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What do you mean by strength of conviction? People are either guilty beyond any reasonable doubt or they aren’t. Last person who had their murder conviction overturned was 2005 BTW.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #267
Nick said:
It would depend on the evidence and the strength of the conviction.

Whilst I have no doubt there are still miscarriages of justice, with advances in DNA etc it's a lot different to the 70s now.
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Ah yes, the days of the police getting things wrong are thankfully long behind us.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #268
SBT said:
Ah yes, the days of the police getting things wrong are thankfully long behind us.
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Read what I said.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #269
Nick said:
Read what I said.
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So in this particular case you're satisfied the burden of proof has met and we're safe to go ahead with this 14 year-old and "get him put down"?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #270
SBT said:
So in this particular case you're satisfied the burden of proof has met and we're safe to go ahead with this 14 year-old and "get him put down"?
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Yeah fuck it. I'd sleep fine tonight if he was taken out the back and put down like the other 2.
 

no_loyalty

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #271
Grendel said:
Well another charming incident - possibly the worst yet - another failure of the social services system - and this delightful trio will possibly one day experience freedom again no doubt in the teenage nut jobs case with a new identity at tax payer expense

Logan Mwangi murder: Mum, stepdad and teen sentenced - BBC News

A judge says the attack on the "defenceless" Logan Mwangi was "nothing short of horrifying".
www.bbc.co.uk
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I watched the documentary on itv last night and it was absolutely horrific.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #272
shmmeee said:
What do you mean by strength of conviction? People are either guilty beyond any reasonable doubt or they aren’t. Last person who had their murder conviction overturned was 2005 BTW.
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I believe you’ve suggested chemical castration for sex offenders. I’m sure that’s a pretty right wing approach
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #273
SBT said:
Like the Birmingham Six, for example?
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So you think these 3 are innocent and it’s a miscarriage of Justice
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #274
Grendel said:
I believe you’ve suggested chemical castration for sex offenders. I’m sure that’s a pretty right wing approach
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If it works I’d be more open to it than the death penalty, sperm can be frozen, etc. I have no idea if it works.

Not sure what left or right wing has to do with it. It’s the biggest intervention a government can make arguably.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #275
Grendel said:
So you think these 3 are innocent and it’s a miscarriage of Justice
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Not from what I've read, but that clearly wasn't my point.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #276
SBT said:
Not from what I've read, but that clearly wasn't my point.
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Well dredging up the 70’s is not much of a point regarding this is it
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #277
Grendel said:
Well dredging up the 70’s is not much of a point regarding this is it
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So miscarriages of justice are no longer possible?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #278
SBT said:
So miscarriages of justice are no longer possible?
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so that’s the issue you have with the death penalty?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #279
Sad that this thread has been derailed, but the problem with the death penalty really is that the only thing going for it is satisfying blood lust. Doesn’t prevent crime, doesn’t save money, can end up killing innocent people.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #280
shmmeee said:
Sad that this thread has been derailed, but the problem with the death penalty really is that the only thing going for it is satisfying blood lust. Doesn’t prevent crime, doesn’t save money, can end up killing innocent people.
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It would save money.

To keep that 14 year old in for life it could be in the millions.
 
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