Random? Dont get why he doesnt just spit it out.
Random? Dont get why he doesnt just spit it out.
Absolutely right and as I said on the previous page we will all loath SISU again shortly. Without knowing the full facts in this it seems that while FG hold the cards you would expect them to be open to the club's owners who would, you'd hope, wish to negotiate in the best interests of the club.
Our owners have form when it comes to digging in and not being told what to do.
Brace yourselves for a ground share.
Brace yourselves for MR leaving.
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I saw last time he took a Twitter break it was just after Gilbert called him out on his shit.
May be right, but it's Seppala (sorry G, was getting to me like Tommy Hutchinson does!)
Do you really think MA/Frasers care about the best interests of CCFC
Thing is though, sometimes he does seem to know stuff.
Then other times it's like "here's a tiny bit of info"
Do you think the Sisu hedge fund cares?
Absolutely not.
The worst one really is that the local council don't either.
It's like a group of cunts all sticking the boot in.
It's not, but as others have said, I believe the object is solely to cancel the existing contract. There is no reason to change anything else for the sake of a few months.
although in reality, mirroring is actually the same thing, but back to front.
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I'm sure he knows *something* but he also likes doing the big I am, and phrasing things in a way that suggest he knows nothing as often as not. It's hints, innuendo, and things which if they come off he can point to and say see, whereas he really knew nothing. It's the trick of the tarot card reader!
Plus he's a paranoid loon!
With what Dave?.Sell off our talent again?
Lose the management team?
Turmoil again.
It's a shitball
I can’t figure out from the statements if the offer of the same terms was before the court hearing or not?
Just thoughts - but the statements so far basically tell you what each party wants you to hear
I think the starting point is the ACL administration prepack result was always going to be what it turned out to be. Everyone knew it really
The timing for our owners wasn't great the 85% sale didn't happen soon enough possibly because of the exclusivity clause with Storey. Then they made a weak showing front of the judge on 17th it seems.
When offered the licence pre the ACL disposal our owners could have thought a couple of things i suppose (a) that signing before the administration result weakens their position to challenge on the 17th November or (b) they would be able to use CCFC brand to twist the landlords arm for a better deal.
As i highlighted earlier a lease can be transferred, there is no right to do so other than by mutual agreement for a licence. We had a licence, the transfer for whatever reason was not signed off. Even if it was changed to May 2023 and all other terms the same (were they?) not signing created jeopardy for CCFC
I do read it that had our owners signed prior to prepack then the existing licence & term would have been transferred attached to the head lease to the new entity in the Frasers group that owns the head lease. For whatever reason that agreement to transfer was not signed. Part of me thinks that the owners needed to at least try to get a better deal, part of me says yet again it was a misjudgement.
Frasers have now come back and said there is a deal till May. After which a new licence will have to be arranged. Basically, it says we know the history and you will not be messing us about. That gives the two sides an opportunity to get to know each other, but of course leaves an element of risk for both sides. To make the Stadium worthwhile Frasers needs CCFC there, CCFC cannot afford to move to Birmingham, Northampton, Walsall etc.
Trouble is everyman and his dog knows the CCFC finances are dire and they are up against an entity whose bank balance was barely scratched by the purchase of the stadium
A lot of posturing going on, but i think it is clear that CCFC now has less influence over the finances of the stadium, whilst wasps were there CCFC knew the money they brought in was make or break, its not the case anymore
As for the money CCFC put in to keep games on and relay the pitch, that is all unsecured creditors of what is left of ACL, the club is not getting it back
Bottom line a deal will get done, not perhaps the one our owners expected but CCFC will remain at the stadium in my opinion
I think the starting point is the ACL administration prepack result was always going to be what it turned out to be. Everyone knew it really
The timing for our owners wasn't great the 85% sale didn't happen soon enough possibly because of the exclusivity clause with Storey. Then they made a weak showing front of the judge on 17th it seems.
When offered the licence pre the ACL disposal our owners could have thought a couple of things i suppose (a) that signing before the administration result weakens their position to challenge on the 17th November or (b) they would be able to use CCFC brand to twist the landlords arm for a better deal.
As i highlighted earlier a lease can be transferred, there is no right to do so other than by mutual agreement for a licence. We had a licence, the transfer for whatever reason was not signed off. Even if it was changed to May 2023 and all other terms the same (were they?) not signing created jeopardy for CCFC
I do read it that had our owners signed prior to prepack then the existing licence & term would have been transferred attached to the head lease to the new entity in the Frasers group that owns the head lease. For whatever reason that agreement to transfer was not signed. Part of me thinks that the owners needed to at least try to get a better deal, part of me says yet again it was a misjudgement.
Frasers have now come back and said there is a deal till May. After which a new licence will have to be arranged. Basically, it says we know the history and you will not be messing us about. That gives the two sides an opportunity to get to know each other, but of course leaves an element of risk for both sides. To make the Stadium worthwhile Frasers needs CCFC there, CCFC cannot afford to move to Birmingham, Northampton, Walsall etc.
Trouble is everyman and his dog knows the CCFC finances are dire and they are up against an entity whose bank balance was barely scratched by the purchase of the stadium
A lot of posturing going on, but i think it is clear that CCFC now has less influence over the finances of the stadium, whilst wasps were there CCFC knew the money they brought in was make or break, its not the case anymore
As for the money CCFC put in to keep games on and relay the pitch, that is all unsecured creditors of what is left of ACL, the club is not getting it back
Bottom line a deal will get done, not perhaps the one our owners expected but CCFC will remain at the stadium in my opinion
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Exactly. Actual whistleblowers post proof, not innuendo and “coming soon”.
And how do we survive that? We’re barely surviving now
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Why are people having so much trouble understanding this statement?
whether you believe it or not is a different issue.
I read that as SISU fucking about again…standard. Will await further info before forming full judgment though
Probably told Ashley they don’t want 7 years as they’re about to start building the mythical new stadium so he may as well sell the CBS to them for £1
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My reading is the same as yours - we were offered a pre-pack existing terms until 2031 and rejected it
we have to sell but we can do it
there will be a deal, the fg statement has makes it clear they have not real interest in eviction
yes,it's but it's an optionWith what Dave?.Sell off our talent again?
Lose the management team?
Turmoil again.
It's a shitball
anyway fg don't want to evict us, they just want us to sign the deal
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Or not even rejected it, but kept needling for extra to be added until they lost patience. Similar to what's happened with initial ACL deal (we shook hands on a deal) and when we moved out under Wasps (a deal was agreed, champagne was on ice).
Bluff has been called quite comprehensively
That’s not what it says. It says it “mirrors” the original license. That says to me a continuation of the original license. When that was rejected an offer until the end of season was made.
Too early for out. CCFC is now being stressed out by a bigger player than SISU. Shite times ahead me thinks.