It makes sense to me... The players are less pissed for the 12.30 & 3pm kick offs.Looking at our results across the season. Is there any logical reason we have lost the majority of our games in evening matches, both home and away?
Tuesday is a one off game but if you have a look through there is a pattern!
Unless he had 3 wheels then he'd be a tricycleif frank had wheels, he would have been a bicycle.
no pattern, its just football.
Was Notts County not a Friday night? I can't bloody remember it was that long agoOur away record in the playoffs is good. The second legs (that we’ve won) have all been midweek iirc?
Was Notts County not a Friday night? I can't bloody remember it was that long agofeels like so much has happened between then and now. Mad to think it was only 7 years ago.
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In the 22/23 season our away from in the second half of that season was top drawer - the last game we lost away was in February!Our away record in the playoffs is good. The second legs (that we’ve won) have all been midweek iirc?
Boro away was midweek from memory.Both Notts County and Boro were Friday nights!
Some of the defeatism on here is a little bit much to be honest. If I was a gambling man crunching numbers, you’d back Sunderland to get over the line but this KO football over 2 legs and weird things happen.
In the 22/23 season our away from in the second half of that season was top drawer - the last game we lost away was in February!
We were in a groove with the perfect counter attacking players.
We've been shite away this season - and based on Friday, have you seen anything that makes you think we can either score two, or keep a clean sheet!?
Regardless, we have 100% record of getting to play off finals by winning the away leg.
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Not with this squad and managerOur away record in the playoffs is good. The second legs (that we’ve won) have all been midweek iirc?
Our away record in the playoffs is good. The second legs (that we’ve won) have all been midweek iirc?
But with different players and management. So how we have done previously in play off games is pretty irrelevant.
It was 2-1 away at Notts County in the league a few weeks prior to the playoffs.That’s a given… I’m sure if you went back to the relevant threads covering the playoff years there would be a lot of similar opinions viewed then as there is now.
I remember thinking we needed to beat Boro to go through in 2023 because we hadn’t won at the Riverside. We also got beat 3-1 by Notts County in the league before the playoffs and iirc, we had a miserable record there! The point is simple: whatever happened in the league campaign is irrelevant and form goes out of the window. It’s two legged tie and we have the confidence that we were the better team last Friday and without MVE’s kamikaze back pass, we’d be taking a draw to the SoL and feeling confident we will win.
Every neutral I’ve spoken too still backs us to beat Sunderland despite losing because they can see that we were clearly the better team in the first leg.
It was 2-1 away at Notts County in the league a few weeks prior to the playoffs.
Ponticelli equalised with about five minutes to go but they scored the winner pretty much from kickoff
That’s a given… I’m sure if you went back to the relevant threads covering the playoff years there would be a lot of similar opinions viewed then as there is now.
I remember thinking we needed to beat Boro to go through in 2023 because we hadn’t won at the Riverside. We also got beat 3-1 by Notts County in the league before the playoffs and iirc, we had a miserable record there! The point is simple: whatever happened in the league campaign is irrelevant and form goes out of the window. It’s two legged tie and we have the confidence that we were the better team last Friday and without MVE’s kamikaze back pass, we’d be taking a draw to the SoL and feeling confident we will win.
Every neutral I’ve spoken too still backs us to beat Sunderland despite losing because they can see that we were clearly the better team in the first leg.
Not sure about defended comfortably, we struggled trying to go through the middle, but we got down the right side easily, and down the left when EMC came on, just the final ball was poor, saka went past their LB every time, and MVE made the goal doing the same , target the full backs again, we don’t need to do too much different, forget the 2nd goal, they never created that, they made 2 chances,We were the more attacking team with the most possession, not the better team. We created one clear cut chance which Rudoni scored from. The rest Sunderland coped with comfortably.
Sunderland came with a game plan of being organised, soaking up pressure and relying on the counter attack.
They got three chances and were clinical with the first two. Wilson made a good save from the third (and has actually kept the game alive for the second leg).
Sunderland executed their plan perfectly and were the better team on the night because of that. They didn't make mistakes, we did and they were ruthless when we did.
The game is still alive but who scores first at Sunderland is crucial. I suspect having got the lead from the first leg Sunderland's approach will be the same. We are not good at breaking down well organized teams. I suspect we will require a slice of luck if we are to progress.
cant be too harsh on wright gets 3 goals then gets stuck out on the left, he’ll come good tuesday, he always does,just need everyone to be right on it and no silly mistakes, they created 2 chances, they’re nothing special,Never mind all the hocus pocus, it’s all going to come down to whether we have any more match winners than Jack Rudoni.
I don’t really think we have right now that are consistent , perhaps Haji Wright but he looks half arsed in many games, especially away. Saka can provide a bit of magic but not often away. Thomas in the air at set pieces ?
Not sure about defended comfortably, we struggled trying to go through the middle, but we got down the right side easily, and down the left when EMC came on, just the final ball was poor, saka went past their LB every time, and MVE made the goal doing the same , target the full backs again, we don’t need to do too much different, forget the 2nd goal, they never created that, they made 2 chances,
That’s what I mean,just a bit more quality on the crosses in the box, look what happened when we got it right, and this time we’ll have wright in there and not BTAThey coped with what we put into the box apart from Rudoni's header. Our set piece was repetitive and unimaginative.
We were the more attacking team with the most possession, not the better team. We created one clear cut chance which Rudoni scored from. The rest Sunderland coped with comfortably.
Sunderland came with a game plan of being organised, soaking up pressure and relying on the counter attack.
They got three chances and were clinical with the first two. Wilson made a good save from the third (and has actually kept the game alive for the second leg).
Sunderland executed their plan perfectly and were the better team on the night because of that. They didn't make mistakes, we did and they were ruthless when we did.
The game is still alive but who scores first at Sunderland is crucial. I suspect having got the lead from the first leg Sunderland's approach will be the same. We are not good at breaking down well organized teams. I suspect we will require a slice of luck if we are to progress.
Agreed yes they defended well but it wasn't some master genius plan executed by a master genius tactician! Their fans all happy saying finally the real Sunderland turned up?This is a knee jerk response.
To say they executed the perfect game plan is giving them too much credit. MVE’s suicidal back pass gave them a last gasp winner and even then Haji was prevented scoring an equaliser with a genuinely top class tackle from Jobe.
They defended well and that’s the credit they deserve. Going forwards, they relied on scraps that we gave them twice.
This is a knee jerk response.
To say they executed the perfect game plan is giving them too much credit. MVE’s suicidal back pass gave them a last gasp winner and even then Haji was prevented scoring an equaliser with a genuinely top class tackle from Jobe.
They defended well and that’s the credit they deserve. Going forwards, they relied on scraps that we gave them twice.
Yes, hardly a masterclass, but to sit back and wait for mistakes was a plan executed well. Respect has nothing to do with it. It’s crystal clear that they’d done homework.
No. It was the first time that we had ever won at the Riverside.Wasn't Boro the only time we'd won away midweek that season? I remember some stat like that being thrown around at the time.
This is a knee jerk response.
To say they executed the perfect game plan is giving them too much credit. MVE’s suicidal back pass gave them a last gasp winner and even then Haji was prevented scoring an equaliser with a genuinely top class tackle from Jobe.
They defended well and that’s the credit they deserve. Going forwards, they relied on scraps that we gave them twice.
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