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Evo1883

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,976
Apparently in the coming world rankings

England move up to 3 , Italy move up to 5
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,977
David O'Day said:
Henderson wasn't on the pitch though
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Henderson missed in the World Cup and then missed in a friendly prior to the tournament. No way was he taking one
 

cc84cov

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,978
It shouldn’t of been left to pens we had the bench to win it but we sat for far too long
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,979
cc84cov said:
It shouldn’t of been left to pens we had the bench to win it but we sat for far too long
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Still think that last 10 of extra time where they were sat back wanting penalties we should have just stuck it on them. We were too passive and fancied our chances at penalties.
 

cc84cov

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,980
Be proud of them gets my vote
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,981
cc84cov said:
Be proud of them gets my vote❤
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Proud of the lads, and it was an enjoyable tournament. The real football starts back in 4 weeks though. Cannot wait.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,982
Chiellini and Bonnucci are incredible, the Italian cynicism is a skill in itself. Chiellini taking the yellow but being in full control when pulling the shirt of Saka is case in point. Everything is controlled and has a purpose. Part of the Italian make up though. Can we ever be like that? We'd get to more finals if we can.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,983
Skybluefaz said:
Chiellini and Bonnucci are incredible, the Italian cynicism is a skill in itself. Chiellini taking the yellow but being in full control when pulling the shirt of Saka is case in point. Everything is controlled and has a purpose. Part of the Italian make up though. Can we ever be like that? We'd get to more finals if we can.
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There’s an Italian word ‘furbo’ which describes it perfectly. It’s seen as something admirable and is part of wider society.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,984
Ccfcisparks said:
Proud of the lads, and it was an enjoyable tournament. The real football starts back in 4 weeks though. Cannot wait.
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That’s the first England tournament the missus has got properly invested in and she was in tears for a fair bit. For me it’s the 6th time I’ve seen them lose on penalties, admittedly the first time missing 3 in a row, but once it’s gone it’s gone. It’s for Southgate to go away and reflect on the mistakes made, for everyone else there isn’t much benefit going over how the advantage was squandered twice.

Hopefully CCFC sign some CBs to play at the CBS along with a few LBs and a CM to replace MJ.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,985
Skybluefaz said:
Chiellini and Bonnucci are incredible, the Italian cynicism is a skill in itself. Chiellini taking the yellow but being in full control when pulling the shirt of Saka is case in point. Everything is controlled and has a purpose. Part of the Italian make up though. Can we ever be like that? We'd get to more finals if we can.
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That happens everywhere to be honest, a professional knows when to take one for the team
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,986
Deleted member 5849 said:
It was nearly ripping his neck off that was the issue!
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It was like Smackdown!!
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,987
Brighton Sky Blue said:
That happens everywhere to be honest, a professional knows when to take one for the team
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Not with the same level of control. Nowhere near.
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,988
Just catching up after last night. I thought it was a shame we didn't play the same football as we have all tournament. Italy were filthy and it looked like their dirty tactics put some fear into the lads.

I'm not sure why you'd have young Saka taking number 5. He will be devastated now and it's not really his fault. He had the weight of a nation on his shoulder and it's going to leave him with a sour taste after a fantastic tournament. I'll be honest after seeing Kane's pen I didn't see how we could win. A powerful shot into the bottom corner and Donnaruma still nearly got to it.

Overall impressed with our country in this tournament, we got a big monkey off our backs with the Germany win and I think we could do some damage at the World Cup next year.
 
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CJ_covblaze

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,989
Skybluefaz said:
Not with the same level of control. Nowhere near.
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You’ve got to give it to him. He knew he’d get a yellow. Best thing for him to happen in that situation. If he hadn’t got that card he would’ve been off in the next break of play.

Him and Bonnuci were slow as tortoises but still looked absolutely class from about 30-40 mins in. Mancini changed one or two things and they both had our number particularly from the second half onwards.
 
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Torquay Sky Blue

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,990
Getting to the final was the big deal for me. This team can and will improve on the back of that.
Italy were clever. They did a job on Sterling. He couldn't get near their slow centre backs all night and they managed the game well when in mattered.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,991
CJ_covblaze said:
You’ve got to give it to him. He knew he’d get a yellow. Best thing for him to happen in that situation. If he hadn’t got that card he would’ve been off in the next break of play.

Him and Bonnuci were slow as tortoises but still looked absolutely class from about 30-40 mins in. Mancini changed one or two things and they both had our number particularly from the second half onwards.
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12 major finals they've made now is it?! outside of the 90's I don't think they would ever have been considered to have the best squad of players but as a collective they are pretty much always competitive, bar the blip they had in not qualifying for Russia. Mentality giants, masters of the dark arts. We should have thrown the kitchen sink at them to try and ensure it didn't get to penalties cos we were never going to win a shootout against them.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,992
Great tournament and the lads did us proud. Of course theres frustration, most of us probably wanted to change things up earlier in the second half…but then again how many times has Southgate made right calls to get us to that point (Rice and Phillips were immense yesterday and not many would’ve had them in as a midfield pairing before tournament)

Ifs and buts but Rashfords pen was so close and if that’s in all the pressure on their next taker. Fine margins !

ps Jorginho lucky to stay on after challenge on Grealish, don’t think it was intentional but seen plenty of sendings off for that type of challenge this season. Also, some proper Italian old school stuff during the game but ultimately they deserved to nick it
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,993
Grendel said:
Well some right old nonsense on here

In the end it’s our most successful tournament for over half a century and the youngest squad in the competition

Southgate by a country mile is the best manager for as long as I remember - penalties is a lottery and that’s it

Can’t be bothered with the rubbish here and certainly social media - just embarrassing
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Who are you and what have you done with Grendel??? Completely agree
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,994
Seeing the emotion on my kids faces after pens after the great start reminded me of how I felt at euro 96 still to this day I remember that feeling,it’s crazy at the start it was just another tournament but like 2018 it just gets into your heart and your swept away with a feeling of sadness once it’s ended but as football fans we wouldn’t change it for the world...our day will come
 

Mcbean

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,995
wingy said:
It was like Smackdown!!
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IMO red card taking a player out of play and obstructing a goal scoring opportunity
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,996
The sun really didn't shine well on a small portion of England fans yesterday. The breaking into the stadium, the fighting, the littering, the racist tweets. We have some of the best fans in the world but arguably some of the worst too.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,997
Sky Blue Pete said:
Who are you and what have you done with Grendel??? Completely agree
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Was thinking the same. Made me question my own judgement for a minute.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,998
cc84cov said:
Mount
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I know but trying to make the best out of a limited bunch in the central midfield department ‍♂

And at least it takes Mount out of an attacking position
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,999
Woke up feeling annoyed, unforgivable to let a 19 year old kid take Englands biggest ever penalty.
 
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Paul Anthony

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #10,000
Well, now the dust has settled, I'm still angry.

I can't believe that the way we started, had them on the ropes, scored, and clearly had an effective game plan. Then, after half an hour we started sitting back. And it was obvious to everyone that we were allowing Italy the chance to get on the ball, get into a rhythm, find some momentum. OK, you want to see your lead through to half time. But, at half time surely the discussion had to be we can't afford to let them come on to us so much, get back to running at them. And if that means changes, subs, you have to make them. When we didn't do that, Italy took the tactical advantage, and we ended up looking lost. Obviously a manager with the valuable experience of Mancini is going to know how to make the right changes, but we didn’t respond. And that was forme the big problem. We surrendered the tactical advantage to a man with a level of experience to punish us for it and he did.

Obviously the penalties is a whole other issue, but again lessons have to be learned.

I'm not going to knee jerk and say Southgate out, I don't think that helps at all. And I certainly don't (edit thank you, SwiftKey...) think anyone deserves racial abuse, that's just pond life behaviour and as low as it gets. But clearly there are important lessons for him to learn about how we manage games against teams of this calibre. Sitting as deep as we were was never going to end well, and with the Quality of options we had available off the bench, we had to use it earlier.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #10,001
Still feel incredibly proud
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #10,002
Paul Anthony said:
And I certainly do think anyone deserves racial abuse
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Hmmmm
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #10,003
Paul Anthony said:
And I certainly do think anyone deserves racial abuse
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Paul Anthony

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #10,004
Deleted member 5849 said:
:O
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That's an unfortunate autocorrect....
 
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Paul Anthony

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #10,005
Talking of learning lessons, I've just learned one. Always proof read what you've written before you hit "post reply"....
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #10,006
Paul Anthony said:
Talking of learning lessons, I've just learned one. Always proof read what you've written before you hit "post reply"....
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#CancelPaulAnthony
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #10,007
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
I know but trying to make the best out of a limited bunch in the central midfield department

And at least it takes Mount out of an attacking position
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Mount isn’t good enough mate we need better play Grealish or Foden at 10
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #10,008
cc84cov said:
Mount isn’t good enough mate we need better play Grealish or Foden at 10
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For sure that's what I said, that's why I suggested dropping Mount into a deeper position as Phillips and Rice are even worse footballers than Mount


If there is someone better who can play a box to box midfield role alongside Bellingham I'm all for them playing and dropping Mount completely
 

We'll_live_and_die

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #10,009
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Woke up feeling annoyed, unforgivable to let a 19 year old kid take Englands biggest ever penalty.
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He shouldn’t have been allowed even if he begged. Poor kid and Southgate knows how that feels.
I’m shocked and surprised that he was up there.
 
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TM8792

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #10,010
Southgate got the formation and tactics all wrong. We played them off the park at the start and then spent 60 mins + extra time desperately trying not to concede. Just shite. For me we need to get rid of him. His win vs a shite Germany side is the only time we’ve beaten a half-decent side in an important match during his reign.

Fair play to those who jibbed it yesterday. That video of England fans attacking those without tickets is truly pathetic.
 
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