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David O'Day

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,941
CJ_covblaze said:
It was an error. Was Mancini’s decision to bring on Belotti equally as bad? For what it’s worth we did well to even get to that point. They should’ve beaten us in 90 minutes.
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Belotti came on a the start of extra time? Hardly the same is it?
 

cc84cov

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,942
Rashford missing put us under real pressure
 

cc84cov

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,943
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
I think he has to play him in central midfield, we have to get out the mentality of pushing our talented players higher up the pitch.

We need players who can handle the ball with skill and composure in our own half, instead of going with two work horses who do the 'dirty work' and end up chasing Italian shadows for 120 minutes

I think Bellingham and Mount could potentially make a good midfield two and both have the work rate and intelligence to do the defensive work, and then it frees another attacking position for a grealish or sancho who probably offer a bit more than Mount in those positions.
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Mount
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,944
I see people have gone out there way to make taking the knee relevant. Boris also put himself in the position where having supported racism now having to condemn it.
 
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Macca

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,945
Evo1883 said:

As close to blaming Southgate without saying his name
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whilst I usually think Mr L is a grade A bell end he is on the money there
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,946
cc84cov said:
Mount
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You aren't the best judge of players though fella
 

Tommo1993

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,947
Hoped the bitter disappointment would leave overnight. It didn’t.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,948
Ah well.


4 weeks and we'll be back at the ricoh watching the boys!
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,949
Saddlebrains said:
Ah well.


4 weeks and we'll be back at the ricoh watching the boys!
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Never heard of it mate.
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,950
CJ_covblaze said:
One of our players of the tournament. However that 5th penalty should’ve been Grealish’s or Pickford’s.
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Wouldn't Luke Shaw be a decent taker and like I said earlier , Henderson?
 
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SBAndy

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,951
Just woken up. Gutted (and sleep deprived). We sat back a bit too much and didn’t have the pace on the counter that would have forced them back. But hey, it’s a system that worked against Germany and others, and I think Southgate had bought the trust to do what he saw fit last night. It didn’t work, massive shame, but huge positives to look to for Qatar.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,952
Some tragic comments across social media, including here.
 

cc84cov

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,953
David O'Day said:
You aren't the best judge of players though fella
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Has mount had a good tournament ?
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,954
wingy said:
Wouldn't Luke Shaw be a decent taker and like I said earlier , Henderson?
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Henderson wasn't on the pitch though
 

Sick Boy

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,955
There are a lot of things for England to be proud of on the pitch and that will be built upon over the coming years. Mancini’s subs changed the game and Southgate didn’t react to them.
Penalties was still a cruel way to decide it, golden goal is a much better format.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,956
Saka did look overwhelmed by the game and the occasion though.
 
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Macca

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,957
I’d like to see someone else take charge of this group of players though to be fair. Ability and skill all over the park which I fear is being suffocated. Southgate is a fine man but I think he would suit getting the best out of a limited team
 
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Torquay Sky Blue

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,958
Well done to Scotland...Big win last night
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,959
Sick Boy said:
There are a lot of things for England to be proud of on the pitch and that will be built up over the coming years. Mancini’s subs changed the game and Southgate didn’t react to them.
Penalties was still a cruel way to decide it, golden goal is a much better format.
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Agree with this we could all the pattern he left it far too long
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,960
Macca said:
Southgate is a fine man but I think he would suit getting the best out of a limited team
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He didn't at Middlesbrough tbf...

I mean, I know we all want to have won the World Cup and European Championships, but he's come closer than most. Going for Eriksson and Capello didn't end up with us winning tournaments after all. Of course there are flawed decisions, but the likes of Guardiola have made them in major finals too, he's not alone in that.

(Oh, and he also got it bang on playing Trippier from the start - his decision making has been, generally, pretty good for England)
 
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Covstu

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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Yep still gutted this morning. It’s a time where your experienced players need to step up not let the kids who didn’t kick a ball take the most important pens of their careers. Absolute shades of Croatia, bossed the 1st half and didn’t read the signs early enough when the opposition adapted. Saka looked like a rabbit in the headlights last night, Sterling was average. Back 3 were solid all night but only can take so much pressure. Fair play Italy beat us on the pitch and mentally outthought us.
 
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jordan210

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,962
Anyone else feel deflated today.

1st half we looked like a team who would beat anyone. Getting runs down the side and creating all sorts of issues. 2nd half we sat in hoping to try and defend the win. against a team who havent lot in 30 odd matches.

questionable subs and tactical decision making has cost us.


Tournament wise Shaw has been out standing.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,963
The Italian passing was immense during the second half, Mancini really has done an excellent job in turning them around.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,964
Graham Potter

Brighton manager , attack minded , plays good stuff , English.

Whenever it happens he should be in the running .

Probably after QATAR
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,965
Evo1883 said:
Graham Potter

Brighton manager , attack minded , plays good stuff , English.

Whenever it happens he should be in the running .

Probably after QATAR
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Southgate has taken England to a semi-final and then a final of a major tournament. He deserves to be in charge in Qatar and expect he will be from the next Euros too.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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Sick Boy said:
Southgate has taken England to a semi-final and then a final of a major tournament. He deserves to be in charge in Qatar and expect he will be from the next Euros too.
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I think we should look after QATAR see what happens there before giving another euros
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,967
Sick Boy said:
The Italian passing was immense during the second half, Mancini really has done an excellent job in turning them around.
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We let them though, we just sat off them.
 
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CJ_covblaze

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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wingy said:
Wouldn't Luke Shaw be a decent taker and like I said earlier , Henderson?
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I’d have Shaw or Walker taking a pen before Saka if they’re on the pitch still. No issue with Rashford taking one. An inch further over and that’s in. As a last resort, Henderson. He’s got one England goal and missed 2/2 pens for us.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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CJ_covblaze said:
An inch further over and that’s in.
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Convinced we'd have won it if that went in, too. Very different mindset for Sancho going up being able to dream of victory.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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Thought Ciolinis assault on Saka should have been red ! He could have been the last man
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 12, 2021
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Mcbean said:
Thought Ciolinis assault on Saka should have been red ! He could have been the last man
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Yeah that was terrible, as were the studs on Grealish.
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,972
David O'Day said:
Henderson wasn't on the pitch though
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No I know,and Nick commented about the last one he took but he was hooked for a taker wasn't he?
 

Sick Boy

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,973
Mcbean said:
Thought Ciolinis assault on Saka should have been red ! He could have been the last man
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If a shirt pull is assault then I’d be locked up playing football.
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #9,974
Mcbean said:
Thought Ciolinis assault on Saka should have been red ! He could have been the last man
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Last man or not, that was assualt in the street.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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Sick Boy said:
If a shirt pull is assault then I’d be locked up playing football.
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It was nearly ripping his neck off that was the issue!
 
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