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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,441
Southgate got it spot on today, well done England!

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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,442
Adolf hitler

jurgen klopp

That bloke from The marathon man


Your boys took a hell of a Beating
 
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COV

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,443
Grendel said:
Really? He was shite
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I know he was, some people were saying he produced an exciting England side
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,444
wingy said:
Out Germaned the Germans.
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I think you're right, wingy. Must admit I was struggling to put my finger on that performance - Hard to watch at times but I think it was essentially an exercise in grinding down the opposition.
 
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SomersetSB

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,445
Quality!!
 
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COV

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,446
Skybluefaz said:
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When a man has experienced the darkest places at the highest level you have to think he must know better than most. He just must. I've knocked him over some selections, but in reality, what right do I have? Fair play Southgate. Congratulations on the redemption. That drink will taste good tonight.
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I’m welling up
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,447
COV said:
I have nothing to get over, it’s not me with a whole omelette on my face, it was you hyping up Capello as a much better England manager
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No way?
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,448
Sky_Blue_Daz said:
Adolf hitler

jurgen klopp

That bloke from The marathon man


Your boys took a hell of a Beating
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Pedant objection - Hitler was Austrian. Goebbels, Goering and David Phillips on the other hand...
 
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COV

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,449
clint van damme said:
No way?
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He was indeed, was on about his England team being really exciting to watch or something similar, but now I feel like a grass so I’ll pipe down
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,450
Ground looks empty, shame for both sides they’re having to play in Scotland
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,451
Grendel said:
And the real point is who would you replace him with? If it’s England only what is there?

I thought Sven was a pretty good manager who got into the England way and tournament games and we were unlucky against Brazil - cappello was horrendous
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Yea cappello was horrendous .

I'm not in the english only camp.

I'm not currently calling for Gareth Southgate to go either ..I don't particularly like him , his style of football or his decision making all the time .. cost us against Croatia in 2018 and Holland in 2019 .

And if he wins the euros then fuck me , we've won the euros .

I don't think il ever warm to Gareth Southgate though .
 
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COV

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,452
Who do we want from these two?

I think I’d rather have Sweden, Ukraine are a bit unpredictable and just throw people forward all the time
 

Tommo1993

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,453
COV said:
Who do we want from these two?

I think I’d rather have Sweden, Ukraine are a bit unpredictable and just throw people forward all the time
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A very long game will do.

Ukraine.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,454
Evo1883 said:
I don't know never been a fan ..

Maybe I should come round

For me I struggle to enjoy negative football , I guess sometimes you have to balance negative tactics and results..

I'd rather win the euros full stop and if that's done by playing like arsenal in the early 90s then so be it
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Surely football is all about winning as a fan and player.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,455
Evo1883 said:
Yea cappello was horrendous .

I'm not in the english only camp.

I'm not currently calling for Gareth Southgate to go either ..I don't particularly like him , his style of football or his decision making all the time .. cost us against Croatia in 2018 and Holland in 2019 .

And if he wins the euros then fuck me , we've won the euros .

I don't think il ever warm to Gareth Southgate though .
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Same as me with Robins then
 
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CJ_covblaze

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,456
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Are you going to Rome?
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In the unlikely event they do a bubble type thing like they were going to do for the Champions League Final then yes 100%. However the FA emailed us to say they won’t be getting an allocation within a few minutes of the final whistle which stung a bit but was expected. Really don’t want to risk missing a potential (potential being the word!) semi and final due to quarantine.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,457
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Ground looks empty, shame for both sides they’re having to play in Scotland
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It's all part of the cultural experience - Pre match meal of deep fried mars bar washed down with buckfast.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,458
COV said:
I have nothing to get over, it’s not me with a whole omelette on my face, it was you hyping up Capello as a much better England manager
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Before you signed up to this place I explained in a fair bit of detail the issues I have with how Southgate set us up, wanting us to play to our strengths especially against weaker sides and so on. There's countless people here who were bored stiff watching us for most of that game and the 3 before, you don't go after any of them.

As it turns out there is more than one way to win a game of football. But it's the same as on the CCFC match threads, 'you hate it when we win', 'you want us to play 10 strikers LOL' blah blah blah. It isn't clever, it's just being a total cock
 

COV

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,459
Evo1883 said:
Yea cappello was horrendous .

I'm not in the english only camp.

I'm not currently calling for Gareth Southgate to go either ..I don't particularly like him , his style of football or his decision making all the time .. cost us against Croatia in 2018 and Holland in 2019 .

And if he wins the euros then fuck me , we've won the euros .

I don't think il ever warm to Gareth Southgate though .
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He’s also removed two of our biggest mental scars as football fans- he’s beaten the Germans and won penalty shootouts
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,460
Sick Boy said:
Surely football is all about winning as a fan and player.
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You can win football matches but still not enjoy whats on offer .

Example - man utd fans with mourinho
 

COV

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,461
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Before you signed up to this place I explained in a fair bit of detail the issues I have with how Southgate set us up, wanting us to play to our strengths especially against weaker sides and so on. There's countless people here who were bored stiff watching us for most of that game and the 3 before, you don't go after any of them.

As it turns out there is more than one way to win a game of football. But it's the same as on the CCFC match threads, 'you hate it when we win', 'you want us to play 10 strikers LOL' blah blah blah. It isn't clever, it's just being a total cock
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And now breeeeaathe

Perhaps be a little more judicious in your choice of Southgate put-downs and you might not end up looking daft
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,462
COV said:
He’s also removed two of our biggest mental scars as football fans- he’s beaten the Germans and won penalty shootouts
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I'm not sure the past has much relevance on how we perform against Germany today .
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,463
Evo1883 said:
You can win football matches but still not enjoy whats on offer .

Example - man utd fans with mourinho
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Can never understand that.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,464
Grendel said:
Same as me with Robins then
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So you understand then
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,465
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Before you signed up to this place I explained in a fair bit of detail the issues I have with how Southgate set us up, wanting us to play to our strengths especially against weaker sides and so on. There's countless people here who were bored stiff watching us for most of that game and the 3 before, you don't go after any of them.

As it turns out there is more than one way to win a game of football. But it's the same as on the CCFC match threads, 'you hate it when we win', 'you want us to play 10 strikers LOL' blah blah blah. It isn't clever, it's just being a total cock
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You didn’t rate Capello though? He’s the worst manager of England in my lifetime
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,466
Grendel said:
You didn’t rate Capello though? He’s the worst manager of England in my lifetime
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McClaren worse for me.
 
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CJ_covblaze

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,467
Evo1883 said:
You can win football matches but still not enjoy whats on offer .

Example - man utd fans with mourinho
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We had 5 defenders and two holding midfielders in front of them today. Don’t know about you but I enjoyed the game!
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,468
Big Sam only England manager with a 100% win record
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,469
Ccfcisparks said:
McClaren worse for me.
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You are judged in tournaments - it was an utter shambles
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,470
Grendel said:
You didn’t rate Capello though? He’s the worst manager of England in my lifetime
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Worse than

Taylor
Hoddle
McClaren
Hodgson
Revie

I don't think so.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,471
CJ_covblaze said:
We had 5 defenders and two holding midfielders in front of them today. Don’t know about you but I enjoyed the game!
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I know , I enjoyed the last 20 minutes , when we decided to play football and scored 2 goals

We had 3 shots until the 70th minute , what was enjoyable up until that point may I ask
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,472
Grendel said:
You are judged in tournaments - it was an utter shambles
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Hodgson got us knocked out by Iceland and in a WC group stage
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,473
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Worse than

Taylor
Hoddle
McClaren
Hodgson
Revie

I don't think so.
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Christ
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,474
Grendel said:
You are judged in tournaments - it was an utter shambles
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McClaren couldnt even get us to a tournament to be judged
 

COV

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,475
Evo1883 said:
So you understand then
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I 'understand' it as well. but I don't agree.

What was the worst thing about supporting England? We'd get all wound up, put in a good, heroic performance but ultimately lose, as the opposition were too cute, they had too much know-how. We would demand "the English way" and the opposition would outsmart us. Then we'd have open topped bus parades to celebrate failure.

Now we don't set out to have everyone on the edge of their seats, we set out to WIN, whatever that takes. We're no longer that bunch that take thousands everywhere but always lose in the quarters or earlier, we are genuine contenders in every tournament we've been in since Southgate took over.

I imagine its a cultural thing, in particular I would think in Italy they'd love the way Southgate sets up his teams to win the game and treats it like a chess match driven by tactics, patience & gameplan instead of a free-for-all where we try to impose our "englishness" on the opposition.

I am more than happy to consign the tag of gallant and entertaining losers to the dustbin and become one of the hardest to beat, toughest opponents there is.
 
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