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hill83

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,406
Fuck you whinging never happy cunts

Ha ha
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,407
Sick Boy said:
To be fair he’s the most successful England manager for a while.
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You wouldn’t think so though. For some reason, he has so many naysayers.

For me, qualifying and friendlies mean nothing. We’ve had countless managers whose ticked those boxes and underachieved at the major tournament - when you earn your money. Capello and Hodgson qualified with almost impeccable records, yet failed miserably at the major tournament.

Fair play to Southgate, I’ve always had a good feeling about him, even if he’s not the most accomplished manager.

Like many people on this board, I am on top of the world right now!
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,408
Great photo from twitter
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,409
Mucca Mad Boys said:
You wouldn’t think so though. For some reason, he has so many naysayers.

For me, qualifying and friendlies mean nothing. We’ve had countless managers whose ticked those boxes and underachieved at the major tournament - when you earn your money. Capello and Hodgson qualified with almost impeccable records, yet failed miserably at the major tournament.

Fair play to Southgate, I’ve always had a good feeling about him, even if he’s not the most accomplished manager.

Like many people on this board, I am on top of the world right now!
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Southgate is easily the best option and the best manager we’ve had since Robson
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,410
I don't know never been a fan ..

Maybe I should come round

For me I struggle to enjoy negative football , I guess sometimes you have to balance negative tactics and results..

I'd rather win the euros full stop and if that's done by playing like arsenal in the early 90s then so be it
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,411
Evo1883 said:
I don't know never been a fan ..

Maybe I should come round

For me I struggle to enjoy negative football , I guess sometimes you have to balance negative tactics and results..

I'd rather win the euros full stop and if that's done by playing like arsenal in the the 90s then so be it
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Yep
 

COV

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,412
Grendel said:
Southgate is easily the best option and the best manager we’ve had since Robson
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I think at this stage Southgate’s record is actually better in terms of win ratio, and performance in tournaments too
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,413
COV said:
I think at this stage Southgate’s record is actually better in terms of win ratio, and performance in tournaments too
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Different era to be fair , Robson was a better manager
 

hill83

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,414
Evo1883 said:
Different era to be fair , Robson was a better manager
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Windmilling mate. International football is much more competitive now. No 7-0 guaranteeds these days.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,415
hill83 said:
Windmilling mate
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Nah , Bobby Robson was a better manager than Southgate...played better football too
 

tisza

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,416
Pickford deserves some credit - never been a fan myself - but kept well.
Do like Phillips - think he brings something extra to that midfield.
 

hill83

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,417
Evo1883 said:
Nah , Bobby Robson was a better manager than Southgate...played better football too
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Time to use age as a barometer for having a clue yet? You haven’t got one.
 

COV

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,418
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yep
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Ah come on, don’t make out you two are in the same boat

Evo says his piece and backs it up, you just constantly whine and and say stupid things like “it’s like Southgate is deliberately trying to throw the match”, “punished for going forward” etc, some of the comments you’ve made have been really embarrassing
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,419
hill83 said:
Windmilling mate. International football is much more competitive now. No 7-0 guaranteeds these days.
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There's a fair few 7 nils these days still to be fair
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,420
hill83 said:
Time to use age as a barometer for having a clue yet? You haven’t got one.
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Get back to your beer shitlips
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,421
Evo1883 said:
Nah , Bobby Robson was a better manager than Southgate...played better football too
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Southgate has the ability to harness players and get them playing for England and really wanting to play. It’s looked a chore for many years but it’s clear he’s very very good at getting the players to play like they are a collective not just individuals, it makes the likes of Cappello look embarrassing
 
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hill83

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,422
Evo1883 said:
Get back to your beer shitlips
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You win tosschops
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,423
Grendel said:
Southgate has the ability to harness players and get them playing for England and really wanting to play. It’s looked a chore for many years but it’s clear he’s very very good at getting the players to play like they are a collective not just individuals, it makes the likes of Cappello look embarrassing
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It was when all is said and done the same under Robson wasn't it ?
He had the same togetherness with the squad in 90 .

We were very unfortunate to not win that too
 

CJ_covblaze

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,424
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Isn’t that 15 goals in his last 20 games for England?
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Plenty of assists too
 

COV

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,425
Evo1883 said:
Nah , Bobby Robson was a better manager than Southgate...played better football too
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Their records say otherwise, and it’s more competitive now
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,426
This should be a good game, Ukraine are gung ho
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,427
Evo1883 said:
It was when all is said and done the same under Robson wasn't it ?
He had the same togetherness with the squad in 90 .

We were very unfortunate to not win that too
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Robson was until then hated as manager - the same as Southgate
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,428
COV said:
Their records say otherwise, and it’s more competitive now
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Tournaments are LESS competitive now as more lower ranked sides have access .

England destroy the qualifiers every time whats with all the competitive nonsense
 

COV

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,429
Evo1883 said:
It was when all is said and done the same under Robson wasn't it ?
He had the same togetherness with the squad in 90 .

We were very unfortunate to not win that too
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No it wasn’t. He failed to qualify for Euro ‘84, had a decent Workd Cup ‘86, shocking Euro ‘88 and a good Italia ‘90- but had some luck as Belgium should have beat us and we all remember Cameroon. There were people calling for the team to be brought home after the first game, and he was booed by the whole ground at some games.

All the respect in the world for Robson and he definitely wins in the ‘legend’ stakes, but take the sentimentality away and Southgate is doing a better job than Robson did, and that’s a fact.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,430
COV said:
Ah come on, don’t make out you two are in the same boat

Evo says his piece and backs it up, you just constantly whine and and say stupid things like “it’s like Southgate is deliberately trying to throw the match”, “punished for going forward” etc, some of the comments you’ve made have been really embarrassing
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Pushing hard on being a dickhead yet again I see. Finding the performances boring isn't a crime and it doesn't mean I don't want to see us win, get over it.
 

rob9872

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,431
I'm always a club over country man, but really hard not to get wrapped up in this. Loved the build up today and yesterday's 2 games were outstanding. Loving the football and would really love us to win this one, especially with so many young players in the squad. Proper feelgood factor around too.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,432
Go all the way to pens. Tired, tired legs.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,433
Grendel said:
Robson was until then hated as manager - the same as Southgate
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Fair point .
 

CJ_covblaze

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,434
Will say the same as I’ve said for the last week. If this was any other nation playing like we have in the 4 games we’d be praised for being efficient and for how Southgate has us set up for controlling games. Think back to 2010. Spain were lorded for all that attacking talent and flair. Scored and conceded very few goals playing “dull” football and won the whole thing. There’s still a long way to go yet but this is looking very very good.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,435
CJ_covblaze said:
Will say the same as I’ve said for the last week. If this was any other nation playing like we have in the 4 games we’d be praised for being efficient and for how Southgate has us set up for controlling games. Think back to 2010. Spain were lorded for all that attacking talent and flair. Scored and conceded very few goals playing “dull” football and won the whole thing. There’s still a long way to go yet but this is looking very very good.
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Are you going to Rome?
 

COV

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,436
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Pushing hard on being a dickhead yet again I see. Finding the performances boring isn't a crime and it doesn't mean I don't want to see us win, get over it.
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I have nothing to get over, it’s not me with a whole omelette on my face, it was you hyping up Capello as a much better England manager
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,437
Evo1883 said:
Fair point .
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And the real point is who would you replace him with? If it’s England only what is there?

I thought Sven was a pretty good manager who got into the England way and tournament games and we were unlucky against Brazil - cappello was horrendous
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,438

When a man has experienced the darkest places at the highest level you have to think he must know better than most. He just must. I've knocked him over some selections, but in reality, what right do I have? Fair play Southgate. Congratulations on the redemption. That drink will taste good tonight.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,439
COV said:
I have nothing to get over, it’s not me with a whole omelette on my face, it was you hyping up Capello as a much better England manager
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Really? He was shite
 

COV

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  • Jun 29, 2021
  • #6,440
Evo1883 said:
Tournaments are LESS competitive now as more lower ranked sides have access .

England destroy the qualifiers every time whats with all the competitive nonsense
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Well slice & dice it however you want, Southgate is a better England manager than Bobby Robson.
 
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