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SIR ERNIE

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #316
AOM said:
They've actually made UEFA/FIFA look like the good guys which is some achievement.

I really hope they call their bluff and tell the clubs to piss off
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problem is, it's not a bluff.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #317
Grendel said:
Yes I’m certain the compromise to squash the idea is to play premier games around the world especially the Far East
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What a load of shite (the idea of it).
 

Hutch11

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #318
The overseas market is the target
So let them fuck off over there and play, I've spoken to quite a few 'plastics' today and they've all said they'd be done with their clubs if they do this.

Imagine the ESL being played to empty houses , I don't think it would last long , whilst the revenue from gate receipts is minimal the atmosphere created isn't.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #319
SBT said:
But the same arguments have been made before every comparable shake-up (the Premier League, the Champions League etc) and we keep flocking back with our BT Sport and Sky subscriptions every time.
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Theres a subtle but important difference. The past occurrences have basically just been revamps of existing competitions. Yes, they have diverted more money to the teams at the top but essentially they still have sporting integrity. You can get promoted and relegated from the PL and you qualify for the Champions League by finishing in the higher league positions.


Thats very different to what is being proposed now.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #320
Greedy bastards.


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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #321
Reading the BBC reports the press conference from the UEFA president was quite something. Talk of throwing clubs out of this seasons European competitions and banning players from playing internationally in Euro 2020.
He started on the offensive and kept going, calling the people responsible for the Super League plans 'liars' and 'snakes'.

Manchester United executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward was blasted, Juventus chairman Andrea Agnelli was accused of walking away from his member clubs.

Ceferin said he will be talking to lawyers tomorrow to see if there is any potential for clubs being thrown out of European competition - five of them are due to play in Champions League or Europa League semi-finals next week - and players being barred from Euro 2020.
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speedie87

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #322
To ask fans to have boycott games etc just wouldn’t have worked pre lockdown, now post lockdown much more likely too
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #323
The silence from managers and players involved in these teams is deafening. Obviously it's their employers but still. Fuck the lot of them.

Actually that's probably harsh, but there's got to be something said by someone soon surely?
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #324
Man United's shares rose by 8.5% so that's an absolute result for them, should sail the away leg now.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #325
hill83 said:
The silence from managers and players involved in these teams is deafening. Obviously it's their employers but still. Fuck the lot of them.

Actually that's probably harsh, but there's got to be something said by someone soon surely?
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I think we need to give it a day or two, but they do really need to be coming out and at least be saying something
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #326
hill83 said:
The silence from managers and players involved in these teams is deafening. Obviously it's their employers but still. Fuck the lot of them.

Actually that's probably harsh, but there's got to be something said by someone soon surely?
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I bet Klopp goes all "no comment" or similar on MNF tonight after vehemently opposing it before.


 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #327
Chelsea's manager Tuchel has already swerved all questions about it.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #328
speedie87 said:
To ask fans to have boycott games etc just wouldn’t have worked pre lockdown, now post lockdown much more likely too
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It’s pointless anyway as the bigger clubs can easily cope without fans in the ground
 
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stay_up_skyblues

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #329
Premier league clubs meeting tomorrow morning. Well... 14 of them. It would be hilarious if they voted to exclude the six. They wont, and presumably couldn’t, but funny it would be.
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #330
Sky on about sources from a board member of one of the 6 English clubs.

It’s all about making money. (I’m paraphrasing)
And they’ll be secretly pleased if their players get banned from playing for their country as it means less games played.
 

SIR ERNIE

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #331
It’ll be unwatchable crap to real fans. Every team stuffed full of diving, whining cheats. VAR extended to analyse every tackle, effectively a no contact ‘sport’. The PL on steroids.

Give me the Championship any day.
 
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hill83

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  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #332
Relegate the 6. And the bottom three, and promote the top 9 in the last 6 played form table from the championship.
 
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stay_up_skyblues

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  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #333
hill83 said:
Relegate the 6. And the bottom three, and promote the top 9 in the last 6 played form table from the championship.
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This has legs
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #334
stay_up_skyblues said:
This has legs
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Any scousers on to make a sign?
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #335
SIR ERNIE said:
It’ll be unwatchable crap to real fans. Every team stuffed full of diving, whining cheats. VAR extended to analyse every tackle, effectively a no contact ‘sport’. The PL on steroids.

Give me the Championship any day.
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Was thinking this myself. It won't really affect me. I'll be up the ricoh watching city and not giving a second thought to the epl.
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #336
clint van damme said:
Was thinking this myself. It won't really affect me. I'll be up the ricoh watching city and not giving a second thought to the epl.
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Me either really, but look at the bigger picture. That’s exactly what these “big six” wankers are being vilified for, for not doing.
 
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Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #337
It comes to something when reporters, talk shows etc. who are paid to try to be impartial are, in the vast majority, in agreement and totally against this.
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #338
Grendel said:
It’s pointless anyway as the bigger clubs can easily cope without fans in the ground
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Spot on, they've practically admitted they're not interested in the traditional "legacy fans".
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #339
hill83 said:
Me either really, but look at the bigger picture. That’s exactly what these “big six” wankers are being vilified for not doing.
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Yeah , but theres not a lot I can do.
If they get bombed out of the EPL I'll feel sorry for their supporters but there's not much I can do to help them.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #340
clint van damme said:
Yeah , but theres not a lot I can do.
If they get bombed out of the EPL I'll feel sorry for their supporters but there's not much I can do to help them.
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I’m talking more about the money that filters down the leagues to keep struggling league 1 and 2 teams a going concern. And further down to non league and grassroots. There will be less as a result of this. Shouldn’t be about money but it has to be. These super league bellends are purely about keeping it for themselves even more than the premier league. (Despite their little statement yesterday)
 
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jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #341
The build up to Leeds Liverpool is going to be interesting. Think the Liverpool coach will need a lot of police.
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #342
clint van damme said:
Was thinking this myself. It won't really affect me. I'll be up the ricoh watching city and not giving a second thought to the epl.
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Yes, this. No loss to me personally at all as I havent' followed the PL since City were relegated. I think I've only watched the Champ League final once. No affinity or interest in football other than England or the Sky Blues.

Unfortunately seems they are more interested in selling subscriptions to far eastern "fans". The viewing figures for the Champions League must presumably out strip the PL overseas for them to want to go down this route.
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #343
Owners of huge football clubs would happily have empty stadiums if they could make enough money from TV revenue ...this is one of the reasons they couldn't give a shit about local supporters and favour the armchair fans , as they are much larger in number for these big clubs .
 
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Deleted member 4439

Guest
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #344
RegTheDonk said:
Yes, this. No loss to me personally at all as I havent' followed the PL since City were relegated. I think I've only watched the Champ League final once. No affinity or interest in football other than England or the Sky Blues.

Unfortunately seems they are more interested in selling subscriptions to far eastern "fans". The viewing figures for the Champions League must presumably out strip the PL overseas for them to want to go down this route.
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The biggest losers will be the home-based fans of the six, including those Man Utd fans from London. Could anything be more crushingly boring than watching the same 12 sides play each other time after time, with no result of importance?

Whilst there must be some concern about how it might financially impact the EFL, I'd be quite happy to see the likes of johnny-come-lately big money sonsored also-rans like Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs die in a corner somewhere. Shame about the other two, who to a degree have in the past built their successes on having a superior fanbase
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #345
I've never liked glory hunting armchair supporters before , but today I think i despise them just that little bit more tbh
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #346
Just heard somebody say the Chinese may not be so interested as the kick times midweek will make it early hours of the morning.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #347
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Just heard somebody say the Chinese may not be so interested as the kick times midweek will make it early hours of the morning.
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It's ok they can play it on the weekend once they're kicked out of the PL
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #348
Won't happen imo. Just used as leverage to get uefa to concede more during CL reforms

Competition must be open. Thats the only thing I care about . Cov should be eligible to win the super league if it is creates. And thats not a joke

No fans is not good for tv product aesthetics also so I hope some arrange boycotts
 

Major Tom

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #349
 
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Deleted member 4439

Guest
  • Apr 19, 2021
  • #350
Liquid Gold said:
It's ok they can play it on the weekend once they're kicked out of the PL
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They can also time the start of their nfl super league season with the Chinese new year. Which reminds me, another positive - we won't have to hear any more bitchin about playing traditional festival season games.
 
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