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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Sep 6, 2023
  • #456
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Surely that is more of a reason to mix things up instead of calling up the equivalent of expired cheese to the squad?
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There are two new squad members and one of those, Colwill will probably get a start. Dunk is older than Maguire with 1 cap, is he expired cheese or mixing things up?

The one I didn't like included was Henderson. Similar to his awful 'justification' of his transfer in the Athletic, I felt Southgate fudged his answers as to why he was selected and seems a bit hypocritical following his (perfectly acceptable) defending of taking a knee/rainbow armband etc.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 6, 2023
  • #457
MusicDating said:
There are two new squad members and one of those, Colwill will probably get a start. Dunk is older than Maguire with 1 cap, is he expired cheese or mixing things up?

The one I didn't like included was Henderson. Similar to his awful 'justification' of his transfer in the Athletic, I felt Southgate fudged his answers as to why he was selected and seems a bit hypocritical following his (perfectly acceptable) defending of taking a knee/rainbow armband etc.
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Not about age, just form and playing time.
 

CJ_covblaze

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #458
That Liechtenstein goal
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #459
Scotland going along nicely with a 100% record, be a good game for a friendly on Tuesday
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #460
Teams out , England should win but starting both Henderson and maguire ..

2 holding midfielders against Ukraine, never change Gareth, this approach has previously won you fuck all
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #461
Watching this Southgate interview, he's just contradicted himself.

Said that Saudi isn't up to the standard of premier League but then goes on about other trade deals the country does with them.

Continued to say he will pick players on performance.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #462
Our CB options are dire compared to other top nations
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #463
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Our CB options are dire compared to other top nations
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He would still play his favourites
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #464
Nick said:
Watching this Southgate interview, he's just contradicted himself.

Said that Saudi isn't up to the standard of premier League but then goes on about other trade deals the country does with them.

Continued to say he will pick players on performance.
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What have trade deals got to do with who players for England. Poor message to send to players by picking Henderson and to some extent, Maguire
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #465
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Our CB options are dire compared to other top nations
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To be fair , maguire is pretty shite too , also doesn't really explain picking a past it jordan henderson
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #466
Thought I was watching football. Saudi politics, feel sorry for Ukraine. What next?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #467
CCFCSteve said:
What have trade deals got to do with who players for England. Poor message to send to players by picking Henderson and to some extent, Maguire
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It was a very weird interview.
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #468
Nick said:
It was a very weird interview.
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Because he's not really got any proper explanation for the shite he's doing
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #469
Won't matter against Ukraine anyway , its a banker
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #470
Evo1883 said:
Because he's not really got any proper explanation for the shite he's doing
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Yeah he just spat out random stuff.

People just get excited over him because we got to a final, ignoring that he fucked it up.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #471
Nick said:
Yeah he just spat out random stuff.

People just get excited over him because we got to a final, ignoring that he fucked it up.
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I think he’s done a good job as England manager. I just think he should be leaning towards players playing regularly at a decent level otherwise it sends the wrong message
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #472
Nick said:
He would still play his favourites
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Would you rather he had no idea who he thinks are his best players? This favourites allegation is often aimed at managers but it is nonsense. I want my manager to have favourites if they are the best players. You can disagree with his judgement 9n them for sure.
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #473
Deleted member 9744 said:
Would you rather he had no idea who he thinks are his best players? This favourites allegation is often aimed at managers but it is nonsense. I want my manager to have favourites if they are the best players. You can disagree with his judgement 9n them for sure.
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Are maguire and Henderson the best we've got ? One cant get in a united side that's average anyway and the other has moved to a league that's shite

He's picking favourites , and they're not our best players
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #474
CCFCSteve said:
I think he’d done a good job as England manager. I just think he should be leaning towards players playing regularly at a decent level otherwise it sends the wrong message
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Yes he is the most successful England manager for over 50 years. Annoyed he has picked Henderson though.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #475
Deleted member 9744 said:
Yes he is the most successful England manager for over 50 years. Annoyed he has picked Henderson though.
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By success you mean won nothing and failed to win tournaments where the routes we had were absolutely piss easy , one was even played on our home pitch

In an era where most international giants have been shite ? Great
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #476
Evo1883 said:
Are maguire and Henderson the best we've got ? One cant get in a united side that's average anyway and the other has moved to a league that's shite

He's picking favourites , and they're not our best players
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That's his judgement. I was responding to Nick's complaint that managers shouldn't have favourites.
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #477
Deleted member 9744 said:
That's his judgement. I was responding to Nick's complaint that managers shouldn't have favourites.
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And his judgement has failed us when it matters time and time again

Have no idea what England fans think hes done that nobody else could have in this era
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #478
Evo1883 said:
By success you mean won nothing and failed to win tournaments where the routes we had were absolutely piss easy , one was even played on our home pitch

In an era where most international giants have been shite ? Great
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But under all other managers in that period we have rarely got close.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #479
Deleted member 9744 said:
Yes he is the most successful England manager for over 50 years. Annoyed he has picked Henderson though.
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Oh yeah so much success
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #480
Deleted member 9744 said:
But under all other managers in that period we have rarely got close.
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Not the same era is it .. there's no doubt most international heavyweights have been shite over the last few years , no doubt whatsoever.
 
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SBT

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  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #481
Evo1883 said:
He's picking favourites , and they're not our best players
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They’re certainly among the best English players for those two positions.

The criticism is getting hysterical considering where England are in terms of results and general standing in world football.
 

1ccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #482
Deleted member 9744 said:
But under all other managers in that period we have rarely got close.
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Other managers didn't have the squads he's had or the easy draws in competitions he's had.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #483
SBT said:
They’re certainly among the best English players for those two positions.

The criticism is getting hysterical considering where England are in terms of results and general standing in world football.
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International football has never been so shite and England have a great crop of players at the right time ...

Most heavyweights sides like Holland, Brazil and Germany are dire compared to years gone by ..

Southgates achieved nothing
 
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #484
Why oh why does Kane keep dropping into an already congested midfield.

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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #485
Nick said:
Oh yeah so much success
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How many managers in your lifetime have got England to a Euros Funal and a World Cup semi final?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #486
SBT said:
They’re certainly among the best English players for those two positions.

The criticism is getting hysterical considering where England are in terms of results and general standing in world football.
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It's ok, they were easy runs because the better teams got knocked out earlier so don't count
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #487
Deleted member 9744 said:
How many managers in your lifetime have got England to a Euros Funal and a World Cup semi final?
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A euro we played at home basically with the easiest route of the tournament? Even the Germans were awful
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #488
Evo1883 said:
International football has never been so shite and England have a great crop of players at the right time ...

Most heavyweights sides like Holland, Brazil and Germany are dire compared to years gone by ..

Southgates achieved nothing
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Does the same apply to Robins because we lost the play off final on penalties?

We get this nonsense about the Championship was easy last season and we lost to a small town called Luton.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #489
Deleted member 9744 said:
How many managers in your lifetime have got England to a Euros Funal and a World Cup semi final?
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Like I said, he fucked the final up. That gets over looked.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 9, 2023
  • #490
Deleted member 9744 said:
Does the same apply to Robins because we lost the play off final on penalties?
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Ofcourse not , Robins has won us 2 promotions .. actually won something for us
 
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