Essex Accident

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  1. ccfc92

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    Horrible story, hopefully no more deaths. 1 lad already confirmed dead :(
     
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    Yep sounds deliberate and cowardly and drove off
     
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    Have the police said it was deliberate? Nothing on twitter at the min, but it does sound it... :(
     
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    Mounted the kerb, hit people and drove off but you’re correct the police are asking people not to speculate on social media
     
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    Awful and there is the notion that it maybe related to another incident.

    Makes you wonder what kind of incident would result in someone deliberately mounting the pavement and driving into school children.

    He will surely be nabbed soon. They have the name and the car reg.

    Terrible incident for sure.
     
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    If hes not nabbed by the old bill I doubt itll be too long until local residents/parents of the children will get a hold of him. Then he'll be praying to be picked up by the old bill

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    Apparently they have made an arrest?
     
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    Give him the same treatment as our friend on Friday job done
     
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    I'm sure he did
    Had he been wearing something closely resembling a suicide vest when they caught him...they wouldn't have taken a chance

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    I mean regardless really. Just get rid
     
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    I wonder if it was targeted against one specific family.

    It is said it was deliberate, so was it just a random, run down any kids in his path, or was he targeting specific people?

    Whichever way it was, it must have been horrific and everyone who saw will surely have that engraved into their memories forever.
     
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    Not sure that approach would get much support. You're advocating the death penalty?

    We have no idea of the real circumstances of what happened. Lunch mobs thankfully don't really exist anymore.

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    Well there was a 53yr old woman injured too. Perhaps there is a different slant? She could have been the target...to just scare her even? Maybe she made to escape & the other victims did likewise & he hit them without any intent?

    We just don't know do we?

    As horrible as it is all we can do is put our faith in the police to sort it out then hand it over to the courts to punish (I use that term loosely!)

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    Has to be a life sentence. Minimum of 30 years.


    I have said before, I would like the sentencing to be rejigged. So, instead of time off for good behavior, you serve your sentence. The sentence is surely given to match the severity of the crime. Therefore, if you are given 15 years, you get 15 years. The only thing that would change would be that your sentence increases for BAD behaviour.

    I can't get my head around someone getting 30 years and then ending up with only 15 and possibly less due to be released early on licence.

    Just seems at the moment you can just pretty much half every sentence.

    Get people serving their time. If they show very good behaviour, they get some privileges in prison.
     
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    If proven that an individual has deliberate run over a child and killed them I am absolutely advocating the death penalty yes
     
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    if he foils a terorrist attack tomorrow he will be called a hero by some on here
     
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    I agree in terms of sentencing. It should be the minimum stipulated. If you behave well you get a few more privileges whilst in prison or at least not get the guards looking for any excuse to have a pop.

    But matched with that I only want to see people locked up that are a danger to the public, as this person appears to be). Financial crimes the penalty should be 2-3 times the value of the crime, either payable in fines and/or community service, paid at a min wage level. Same with 'low level' crime. \For some it may act as a wake up call but I think for many it's more likely to have a negative impact and potentially set them further down that path as they spend all day surrounded by other criminals who will be looking to exploit desperate people.
     
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    You don't think 'financial crimes' are a danger to the public? Tell that to the senior citizens and others who have been robbed of their life savings.
    And what if the perpetrators don't have the money to pay these large fines? What then?
     
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    You can get a longer sentence for theft without violence than for murder. Is it better to be dead than have money taken from you?
     
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    Then they have to pay them back via work, even if that means for a lifetime and at the end of their life any outstanding debt can be taken from their estate before any is distributed.

    The whole point with financial crimes is that they're clearly in it for the money, so you have to make the punishment about money. Talk their language. Give them the chance to steal £2million, squirrel it away and if they're caught they get a few years in prison...worth the risk. Steal it, get caught and have to pay back say £4m in either cash, assets or work and IMO they'll think a lot harder about it.

    Besides which in prison they can still organise activities outside while costing the taxpayer a fortune for bed, board and monitoring. So may not actually prevent others being conned anyway even locking them up.

    Of course it's not a cure-all and won't deter all. Also if some get caught they may just carry on doing it but monitoring of their movements, online and physically, can make it harder.

    Prison is expensive and IMO should be reserved for those who need to be kept away from others for their own physical safety.
     
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    He saves, but he rapes...

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    If the evidence shows that to be the circumstance that is a different matter. Just calling for his execution without knowing isn't the best way forward with any of it though imo

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    Owls?
     
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    He shouldn't last long in prison. Cowardly prick.
     
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    has there been any theories as to what his motive was? Horrific crime. Can't think why anyone would do such a thing.
     
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    Really saddened me my lad is the same age and to think someone can get up and drive a car and fuck the consequences in this way makes my whole foundation wobble
     
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