Embarrassing (3 Viewers)

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:

As BSB said, it's nationalism.

They're like us at the height of empire - "we're the big dogs so we're just gonna act like dicks to everybody else". We've been there, come out the other side and grown up.

As for their reverence for servicemen it's literally lip service. Their VA is an absolute mess and they provide very little support, both financial and healthwise (especially mental health) because it's the country of the individual and everyone should be responsible for themselves. But hey "thanks for your service". Fuck off with the fake gratitude and give them a decent pension and the aftercare they severely need for risking their life for the country. It's got the biggest military budget in the world and is bigger than something like the next 9 combined, so they can fucking afford it if they want to.

If the idea of being proud of ourselves is to be more like America, I'd rather not.

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CCFCSteve said:

That doesn’t reflect my experience over there over the years, where I have met people who genuinely seem to love their country. There’s also the lot who chant ‘USA, USA’ at everything but I’m not talking about them. If you’ve seen or experienced different then so be it but can only take it as I’ve found it

I cant really comment in detail on US military pensions etc as ive never looked into but did just googled and saw comments from ex military that were mainly positive (in terms of free college fees, health benefits, support etc). I was talking more as the public in general rather than government anyway.

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DT-R said:

As an ex infantryman, I find all the "thanks for your service" shit, and bit cringe tbf. I tell people I was in the army because I am proud to of served and I, like most soldiers/veterans, LOVE a good story. I dont tell them for likes or sympathy or recognition. Mostly, because it was a huge part of my life and I can draw experiences from it and I want to share those experiences and stories with others.

What i do feel, however, that we have got completely wrong is this country, is the recognition from the government's we served under. I dont want recognition and tha king from the average guy I speak to on the street, but we get little to no recognition from the government. No help for lads that are homeless. That are addicted to drink and/or drugs because of the things they seen and done on behalf of a government that has long since washed their hands off them.

And the same governments that asked men to go and do a job in N.Ireland, only to drag them through the court system 30 years later! That is what this country has got so terribly, terribly, wrong!


*and to add to that, its not just the government that have got it wrong. In the 19 years I've been out, do you know how many times me being in the army has been used in an argument as a negative against me? More than I can remember. When I was dragged through family courts to get contact with my kids, because I was in the army, I was seen as highly trained and dangerous. My PTSD was also used against me as I was seen as unstable. That is also the same for a LOT of jobs I've applied for and not got.
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chiefdave said:

I see we've reached the painting crosses on war memorials stage of patriotism

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Ccfcisparks said:

and why do they look so crap, cheap material hung limp on a lamppost like a 50 somethings knob who’s just taken half a viagra

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chiefdave said:

Was going to post similar having seen flags dropped over motorway bridges today. If we're supposed to take pride in the flag then make them decent quality and hang them properly.

A cheap polyester flag thats practically see through in the rain randomly cabled tied to anything you can think of is not inspiring pride in me.

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Grendel said:

Epping hotel resident Hadush Kebatu guilty of sex assault that sparked protests - BBC News

Hadush Kebatu told a 14-year-old girl she "would be a good wife" in Epping town centre in Essex.

www.bbc.com

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Grendel said:

Epping hotel resident Hadush Kebatu guilty of sex assault that sparked protests - BBC News

Hadush Kebatu told a 14-year-old girl she "would be a good wife" in Epping town centre in Essex.

www.bbc.com

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Nick said:

He can stay in shmmeees spare room im sure.

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Nick said:

He can stay in shmmeees spare room im sure.

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Nick said:

He can stay in shmmeees spare room im sure.

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ccfc922 said:

Maybe one of our National Tresure's 6 beds at Ellie Gouldings?

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