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Herb70

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  • Yesterday at 7:40 PM
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Lamps said:
Good evening Ellis
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Evening
 

GaryJones

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  • Yesterday at 7:40 PM
  • #1,122
A striker is supposed to score goals - no?
His confidence seems shot and we can’t baby sit him forever.
I would consider loaning him out until January at least.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Yesterday at 7:55 PM
  • #1,123
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Ellis Simms is the perfect case study for a sports psychologist.
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As well as a Performance Director, Dr Claire Roberts is also a chartered Psychologist.

Not to cause a pile on, but hopefully she can look at this. I agree that he is a perfect case study.
 
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DT-R

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  • Yesterday at 8:29 PM
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steve cooper said:
I think Simms would be ok in league 1
He has had just under two and a half seasons in the Championship and scored 26 league goals. In his one season in league 1 he got 8 in 21 games. He also scored 5 in 17 Scottish Premiership games.
A top half team in League 1 would be ideal for him I think.
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Hes a poor man's Maxime Biamou

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Skyblueabo1111

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  • Yesterday at 8:44 PM
  • #1,125
fatso said:
13 League goals in 46 appearances, so a ratio approaching 1 goal every 4 games.

That's for the guy your playing as your main CF.

Not brilliant is it, and that's the most goals hes ever scored in a season.

Funnily enough you neglected to mention the 6 goals in 43 appearances from last season. Did you forget that? I guess it must of slipped your mind
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19 in a season, put him in the top 7/8 in the league, probably top 4.
 
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SHUNT31

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  • Yesterday at 9:17 PM
  • #1,126
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Ellis Simms is the perfect case study for a sports psychologist.
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Why? Nothing mental about it. He just isn’t a good footballer.
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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  • Yesterday at 9:37 PM
  • #1,127
18 goals
Skyblueabo1111 said:
19 in a season, put him in the top 7/8 in the league, probably top 4.
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Shunt, great emoji, obviously an intelligent guy, not. The top goalscorers in the champ, last yr, were around 15.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Yesterday at 9:52 PM
  • #1,128
SHUNT31 said:
Why? Nothing mental about it. He just isn’t a good footballer.
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There are aspects of his game, such as his trapping, that leave a lot to be desired.

However a lot of other things he can do. Physically he's ideal. Tall, strong, not a slouch. He's shown at youth level and in his loans before joining us he knows how to find the net. He's even shown that here occassionally.

the biggest barrier to him being a good centre forward is in his head.
 
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fatso

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  • Yesterday at 10:11 PM
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Skyblueabo1111 said:
19 in a season, put him in the top 7/8 in the league, probably top 4.
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13 in the league!

Out of interest, where does 6 goals in a season rank him?
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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  • Yesterday at 10:11 PM
  • #1,130
GaryJones said:
A striker is supposed to score goals - no?
His confidence seems shot and we can’t baby sit him forever.
I would consider loaning him out until January at least.
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Wouldn't you be shot, if Fat Frank didn't give you one minute, in 2 semi finals, whilst Wright was dreadful? ( Clearly injured)
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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  • Yesterday at 10:12 PM
  • #1,131
fatso said:
13 in the league!
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I think it was 15, but you may be right. Still a lot of goals
 

fatso

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  • Yesterday at 10:20 PM
  • #1,132
Skyblueabo1111 said:
I think it was 15, but you may be right. Still a lot of goals
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He had a decent half season, lord knows what happened to him after that, his form deserted him, and now hes slipped down the pecking order.

I realised after the first few games that he was a very poor player (he was truelly shocking in pre season away at Exeter in fact) but I hoped he would come good, his little run of scoring showed promise, but he never managed to repeat it, I think its fair to say he needs a new challenge now.

It's pointless knocking the guy now, we just need to find him a new home, somehow.
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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  • Yesterday at 11:00 PM
  • #1,133
Here we go..When him and Assante played basically 2 up front when, Wright was injured. Him and Assante scored goals, we won games and a ridiculous amount of points, which saved our season.. it was Wights turn to get abused, after the playoffs. Now Simms, even though he hasn't played. I'll expect loads of smiley emojis from the brain dead, saddlebrains and Grendel included..it is pathetic.
fatso said:
He had a decent half season, lord knows what happened to him after that, his form deserted him, and now hes slipped down the pecking order.

I realised after the first few games that he was a very poor player (he was truelly shocking in pre season away at Exeter in fact) but I hoped he would come good, his little run of scoring showed promise, but he never managed to repeat it, I think its fair to say he needs a new challenge now.

It's pointless knocking the guy now, we just need to find him a new home, somehow.
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whe
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Yesterday at 11:06 PM
  • #1,134
Lamps said:
Good evening Ellis
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Herb70 said:
Evening
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I take back what I said Ellis Simms, your brilliant mate, don't let the bastard on here get you down.
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 11:06 PM
  • #1,135
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
the biggest barrier to him being a good centre forward is in his head.
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I just don’t think he is naturally the kind of ruthless, aggressive person that his physique suggests he should be. I know it’s tempting to say he could be a top player if he could somehow overturn that but I don’t think it’s the kind of thing that can be taught, he is who he is at this point. He is past the stage of his career where his physical attributes alone can make him succeed.
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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  • Yesterday at 11:08 PM
  • #1,136
fatso said:
13 in the league!

Out of interest, where does 6 goals in a season rank him?
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Show me his minutes on the pitch?
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Yesterday at 11:29 PM
  • #1,137
Usual drivel by the usual " we must hate one of our players " brigade .
Simms started virtually every game during our incredible mid season run last season , while he wasn't prolific his presence allowed others to play off him and find areas to hurt the opposition.
He is far from the finished article but as a back up to Wright he is more than a good enough back up
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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  • Yesterday at 11:33 PM
  • #1,138
Perennial Lurker said:
Usual drivel by the usual " we must hate one of our players " brigade .
Simms started virtually every game during our incredible mid season run last season , while he wasn't prolific his presence allowed others to play off him and find areas to hurt the opposition.
He is far from the finished article but as a back up to Wright he is more than a good enough back up
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Brilliant post , this forum has turned into a sewer, it was Wright after the playoffs, now Simms. Grendel leading the charge, followed by Saddlebrains.
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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  • Yesterday at 11:42 PM
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Can this forum not be taken down? It is embarrassing to the forum and Cov City and unfair on Simms, 3 games in, it is pathetic, he hasn't played.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Yesterday at 11:45 PM
  • #1,140
Skyblueabo1111 said:
Can this forum not be taken down? It is embarrassing to the forum and Cov City and unfair on Simms, 3 games in, it is pathetic, he hasn't played.
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im not sure taking down the forum because fans dont rate ellis simms is at all rational
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Today at 12:08 AM
  • #1,141
SBT said:
I just don’t think he is naturally the kind of ruthless, aggressive person that his physique suggests he should be. I know it’s tempting to say he could be a top player if he could somehow overturn that but I don’t think it’s the kind of thing that can be taught, he is who he is at this point. He is past the stage of his career where his physical attributes alone can make him succeed.
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I agree with the point your making, but that's why I'd love for a psychologist to work on him. It's what they're paid to do.

Simms seems like a very quiet, reserved, even introverted, person. And that's great. They tend to be very considerate, thoughtful people. But I'd love to see if someone could get into his head and show him he can use his advantages in a game fairly and still be that person.
 
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fatso

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  • Today at 12:09 AM
  • #1,142
Skyblueabo1111 said:
Show me his minutes on the pitch?
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Fucking way too many for a piss poor 6 goal return!!!
 
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Warwickhunt

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  • Today at 12:15 AM
  • #1,143
fatso said:
Wright received quite justifiable criticism for his abject performances in the play off games against Sunderland, and his piss poor run in to the end of the season.

He's now getting the plaudits for starting the season looking like he actually could give a fuck.

Im sure that has nothing whatsoever to do with there being a world cup place up for grabs next summer.
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My lad was looking for Pochetino in the stands because of Wright performance
 
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baldy

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  • Today at 12:38 AM
  • #1,144
Skyblueabo1111 said:
Can this forum not be taken down? It is embarrassing to the forum and Cov City and unfair on Simms, 3 games in, it is pathetic, he hasn't played.
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What an absolutely wimpy response - calling for the forum to be taken down because of peoples opinions on Simms ffs

Plus why do you think he's not playing? Because he's not good enough - unbelievably feeble comment
 
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Lamps

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  • Today at 5:54 AM
  • #1,145
Perennial Lurker said:
Usual drivel by the usual " we must hate one of our players " brigade .
Simms started virtually every game during our incredible mid season run last season , while he wasn't prolific his presence allowed others to play off him and find areas to hurt the opposition.
He is far from the finished article but as a back up to Wright he is more than a good enough back up
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Simms hasn't suddenly become crap. He just doesn't suit the way we play. His 1st touch isn't good enough and he isn't the type of player to get the ball and make things happen. For his size he should dominate in the box more.

For all his faults BTA is the type of striker we need. Gets the ball and creates havoc in the defence.
 
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Lamps

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  • Today at 5:56 AM
  • #1,146
Skyblueabo1111 said:
Can this forum not be taken down? It is embarrassing to the forum and Cov City and unfair on Simms, 3 games in, it is pathetic, he hasn't played.
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Are you OK hun?

Yeah let's take this place down because someone has a different view
 
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Lamps

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  • Today at 6:03 AM
  • #1,147
baldy said:
What an absolutely wimpy response - calling for the forum to be taken down because of peoples opinions on Simms ffs

Plus why do you think he's not playing? Because he's not good enough - unbelievably feeble comment
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You just have to love it when someone knows more than Lampard and wants the world to know.

Maybe most of us are missing something and we would be doing better with Simms in our 1st team
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Today at 8:21 AM
  • #1,148
Instead of a sudden turning, I wonder if people were expecting Simmo to go over the summer and now realise that we're in for another bumpy ride.
 
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DT-R

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  • Today at 9:17 AM
  • #1,149
Skyblueabo1111 said:
Wouldn't you be shot, if Fat Frank didn't give you one minute, in 2 semi finals, whilst Wright was dreadful? ( Clearly injured)
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Shot? Now there's an idea! If we can't sell him and Collins, shoot them. We used to do it with race horses. Maybe we should do it with footballers!
Give them a date, tell them they either improve, find a willing buyer, or they'll be shot and turned in to glue!


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fatso

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  • Today at 9:22 AM
  • #1,150
Perennial Lurker said:
Usual drivel by the usual " we must hate one of our players " brigade .
Simms started virtually every game during our incredible mid season run last season , while he wasn't prolific his presence allowed others to play off him and find areas to hurt the opposition.
He is far from the finished article but as a back up to Wright he is more than a good enough back up
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No he's not.

Which is why BTA is now back up for Wright, and why Obikwu is still in the squad.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 9:23 AM
  • #1,151
fatso said:
No he's not.

Which is why BTA is now back up for Wright, and why Obikwu is still in the squad.
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Obikwu will be out on loan by Monday Night
 
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fatso

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  • Today at 9:25 AM
  • #1,152
Ccfcisparks said:
Obikwu will be out on loan by Monday Night
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Either Obikwu or Simms,
More likely find takers for Obikwu tbf.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Today at 9:27 AM
  • #1,153
I could see a couple teams look at Simms as seen both Preston and Millwall are having bids for their star strikers.

Preston were impressed with him when they came here last season.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 9:27 AM
  • #1,154
fatso said:
Either Obikwu or Simms,
More likely find takers for Obikwu tbf.
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Well yes as OBikwu will be on loan
 

SHUNT31

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  • Today at 9:30 AM
  • #1,155
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
There are aspects of his game, such as his trapping, that leave a lot to be desired.

However a lot of other things he can do. Physically he's ideal. Tall, strong, not a slouch. He's shown at youth level and in his loans before joining us he knows how to find the net. He's even shown that here occassionally.

the biggest barrier to him being a good centre forward is in his head.
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There’s more than just trapping where he falls short. Link up play is dreadful and we invite pressure from the opposition when he plays because nothing sticks to him. His shooting is abysmal and genuinely the technique is amateur. Watch him do the shooting drill next time you go to a game.

Is he really ideal physically? I wouldn’t say he’s particularly strong, gets outmuscled a lot. He’s not quick either. As for his heading ability, for someone of his size he leaves a lot to be desired.

Jordan Pontecilli smashed it at youth level and has just been released from my local NLN side so that doesn’t really mean that much. Likelihood is, he probably was a lot more physically developed than the others around him which is why he excelled at youth level but now does not have that advantage.

His record elsewhere wasn’t particularly great either.

Called it at Leicester always on his debut that he was a poor footballer and he has not improved at all since then. Passenger.
 
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