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skybluecam

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  • Dec 4, 2024
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SBT

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  • Dec 4, 2024
  • #282
Did we spend £3.5 million on the Evertonian Fabio Tavares?
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Dec 4, 2024
  • #283
All still quite young but only Greenwood who was a certified success for a bit at a top level.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 4, 2024
  • #284
He did look good up front with Wright against Luton, as and when Wright is fit I’d like to see it tried again.
 
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Briles

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  • Dec 4, 2024
  • #285
I really hope we perservere with Simms. He's proven he can score goals, just need him in a more ruthless mindset
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Dec 4, 2024
  • #286
To be honest think Simms is another one like Dovin we need to stick with.

He was brilliant at Luton and since hasn’t had a start in the league. I like Norman a lot, but with the system we played feel simms will be better utilised as a poacher in the box trying to get into areas and onto headers.

This is one of my issues with us this year, we have so many confidence players but instead of building it just keep throwing people out the squad
 
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quinn1971

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  • Dec 4, 2024
  • #287
Briles said:
I really hope we perservere with Simms. He's proven he can score goals, just need him in a more ruthless mindset
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Exactly, but it’s hard to prove a point when youv‘e only been getting a few mins off the Bench, I’d start him saturday and give him a few games, hope Lampard gives him a fair chance,
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Dec 4, 2024
  • #288
I think 442 will end up being our go to when Haji is fit, him and Simms up top together, Tatsu and EMC out wide with Sheaf and Rudi in the center, back four of Milan, Thomas, Kitching and Bidwell with Dovin in goal
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 4, 2024
  • #289
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
I think 442 will end up being our go to when Haji is fit, him and Simms up top together, Tatsu and EMC out wide with Sheaf and Rudi in the center, back four of Milan, Thomas, Kitching and Bidwell with Dovin in goal
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It's not happening
 
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quinn1971

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  • Dec 4, 2024
  • #290
Scoring goals isn’t our problem, remember when dublin went centre half, maybe simms could play there
 
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RegTheDonk

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  • Dec 4, 2024
  • #291
quinn1971 said:
Scoring goals isn’t our problem, remember when dublin went centre half, maybe simms could play there
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Wasn't that when Liam Daish got carded at Blues, recall we all were saying wtf but Dion had a stormer. Let's play Kitchen he's bound to get sent off
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Dec 4, 2024
  • #292
fernandopartridge said:
It's not happening
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I mean it’s kinda a 4-4-2 now (let me cope ).
 

Tommo1993

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  • Dec 4, 2024
  • #293
Would 100% start him over Bassette.
 
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lord_garrincha

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  • Dec 4, 2024
  • #294
RegTheDonk said:
Wasn't that when Liam Daish got carded at Blues, recall we all were saying wtf but Dion had a stormer. Let's play Kitchen he's bound to get sent off
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League Cup at St Andrews??? I remember being there.

His head was like a magnet to the ball in the final 10!
 
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quinn1971

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  • Dec 4, 2024
  • #295
RegTheDonk said:
Wasn't that when Liam Daish got carded at Blues, recall we all were saying wtf but Dion had a stormer. Let's play Kitchen he's bound to get sent off
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Should of gone to the World Cup that year, 2 class players in 1, I’ve said the same, kitching will be that keen in his first start he’ll get a red
 
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Torquay Sky Blue

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #296
quinn1971 said:
Scoring goals isn’t our problem, remember when dublin went centre half, maybe simms could play there
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I remember him playing centre half at Wimbledon when we needed a result to stay up. Best player on the pitch
 
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StrettoBoy

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #297
quinn1971 said:
Scoring goals isn’t our problem, remember when dublin went centre half, maybe simms could play there
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Dublin was excellent at the back. If I remember correctly it started when we put him there if we were one up in a game and clinging on with ten minutes to go.

Simms has the build and is a decent header of the ball but, unlike Dublin, I don’t think he can tackle.
 
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ovduk78

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #298
Torquay Sky Blue said:
I remember him playing centre half at Wimbledon when we needed a result to stay up. Best player on the pitch
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Also Leicester away when he scored both goals in a 2-0 win & Arsenal away in a 0-0 draw
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #299
But it cost us a fa cup semi when we played him there at home v Sheff Utd. The problem was he was an OK defender but a very good striker. So we sort of cut our nose off to spite our face by weakening the attack too much.
 
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SkyB

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #300
Simms race is run with me. I'd sell him in a heartbeat in Jan. Scoring goals hasn't been an issue for us with Simms or without.

His lack of effort is something I can't stand and there's very little game situation I'd have him over Haj, Norm or BTA.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #301
SkyB said:
Simms race is run with me. I'd sell him in a heartbeat in Jan. Scoring goals hasn't been an issue for us with Simms or without.

His lack of effort is something I can't stand and there's very little game situation I'd have him over Haj, Norm or BTA.
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I would start him over Bassette or BTA right now easily.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #302
Torquay Sky Blue said:
I remember him playing centre half at Wimbledon when we needed a result to stay up. Best player on the pitch
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He was so good either at central defender or forward. Had a brilliant game at Wimbledon.
 
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SkyB

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #303
skybluecam said:
I would start him over Bassette or BTA right now easily.
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He had 3 touches in 24 minutes against Cardiff, as ineffective as Yakubu when were chasing a game.
 

SBAndy

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #304
SkyB said:
Simms race is run with me. I'd sell him in a heartbeat in Jan. Scoring goals hasn't been an issue for us with Simms or without.

His lack of effort is something I can't stand and there's very little game situation I'd have him over Haj, Norm or BTA.
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Listen, I’m not suggesting there aren’t times when he looks like he’s not trying, but I think back to our game v Norwich last season when he was (to the untrained eye) just ambling round and then it came out post-match that they’d been effectively told not to press too aggressively. It’s been a big weakness in our game for a while and it’s what I’m most looking forward to seeing change under Lampard. There are definitely question marks over his ability to apply himself in that type of setup but let’s wait and see.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #305
SkyB said:
He had 3 touches in 24 minutes against Cardiff, as ineffective as Yakubu when were chasing a game.
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Funnily enough though, he caused us to get a penalty which got us a point while Norman struggled to get involved
 
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SBAndy

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #306
SkyB said:
He had 3 touches in 24 minutes against Cardiff, as ineffective as Yakubu when were chasing a game.
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And yet won a penalty. Funny that.
 
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Offhegoes

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #307
If Simms had started against Cardiff, we win the game. They had 10 behind the ball for most of the game when we had possession. At least if you get the ball into the box more, Simms is going to cause problems, due to his sheer size.
We've looked good at home against...Oxford, Luton, Blackburn & Sheff Utd. All of those came with attacking intentions, so we were able to play our fast counter attack football. The likes of Norwich, Swansea, Cardiff, Sheff Weds, Derby parked the bus.
Bassette is a great option when we're countering, but when teams are there to stifle us you need Simms in there.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Dec 5, 2024
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Brylowes

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #309
Dublin also played CH at Selhurst Pk against Palace in a 3 v 1 win, whether he started there or was moved there after taking an early lead I don’t remember,he was the best player on the pitch
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #310
Offhegoes said:
If Simms had started against Cardiff, we win the game. They had 10 behind the ball for most of the game when we had possession. At least if you get the ball into the box more, Simms is going to cause problems, due to his sheer size.
We've looked good at home against...Oxford, Luton, Blackburn & Sheff Utd. All of those came with attacking intentions, so we were able to play our fast counter attack football. The likes of Norwich, Swansea, Cardiff, Sheff Weds, Derby parked the bus.
Bassette is a great option when we're countering, but when teams are there to stifle us you need Simms in there.
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Happy to have a you told so at the end of year but think with the width of our attack and how many balls we put into the box, Wright and Simms will be the best strikers in this system.

Think Norman missed a few headers, Simms would have got on the end of imo. Really hope as per my post above he gets a run of games to get his confidence going
 

skybluecam

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #311
SkyB said:
He had 3 touches in 24 minutes against Cardiff, as ineffective as Yakubu when were chasing a game.
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Bassette didn’t do anything. He’s so raw, bit of a headless chicken unless he’s playing vs a high line and constantly getting in behind.

I’m sure some will disagree but Simms plays the traditional centre forward role the best of the 3, has presence, sticks to the right areas and occupies defenders.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #312
skybluecam said:
Bassette didn’t do anything. He’s so raw, bit of a headless chicken unless he’s playing vs a high line and constantly getting in behind.

I’m sure some will disagree but Simms plays the traditional centre forward role the best of the 3, has prescience, sticks to the right areas and occupies defenders.
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Agreed about Bassette. He's clearly talented, but he's a long way off in his development to warrant starting week in week out.

He should've done much better with both of his chances vs Cardiff.
 
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AOM

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #313
skybluecam said:
Bassette didn’t do anything. He’s so raw, bit of a headless chicken unless he’s playing vs a high line and constantly getting in behind.

I’m sure some will disagree but Simms plays the traditional centre forward role the best of the 3, has prescience, sticks to the right areas and occupies defenders.
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Yep, for most of the first half, Bassette was completely taken out of the game just stuck in between their two CB's.
Simms is a lot more suited to those situations and occupying their central defenders.

Completely different strikers though to be fair. Would be interested to see them play together, but don't think it will happen if we're sticking with 4-3-3 now
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #314
AOM said:
Yep, for most of the first half, Bassette was completely taken out of the game just stuck in between their two CB's.
Simms is a lot more suited to those situations and occupying their central defenders.

Completely different strikers though to be fair. Would be interested to see them play together, but don't think it will happen if we're sticking with 4-3-3 now
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I think Bassette could play wide left if he could be trained. Has the pace and skill and has put a few decent balls I’m from there.
 
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AOM

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #315
shmmeee said:
I think Bassette could play wide left if he could be trained. Has the pace and skill and has put a few decent balls I’m from there.
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Yeah agree, he got the assist against Tottenham from that position as well
 
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