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  • Start date Apr 23, 2024
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skyblueelephant76

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #71
SleepyGinger said:
I’d like to think we wouldn’t cash in this summer but Viveash has mentioned they still see Haji as a number 9 and with EMC signing…
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We're going 4-2-4! Saka and EMC on the wings, Wright and Simms in the middle!
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • May 1, 2024
  • #72
If he scores 20-25 league goals next season he will be commanding a fee of around £25 million, would be very short sighted to sell him.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #73
Balli001 said:
I mean Brentford seemed to manage tbh.
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Brentford had an owner who handed them £100m to get promotion.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 1, 2024
  • #74
Grendel said:
Brentford had an owner who handed them £100m to get promotion.
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The idea that we’re somehow following the Brighton and Brentford model is just ridiculous.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #75
Theoretically, we do sell Simms and Sheaf for £25m. We would be in a far better place than when we sold Hamer and Gyokeres... Surely?
 
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biggymania

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #76
Sheaf I think is at the top of his valuation with us, the same isn't true for Simms in my opinion. He still has further to grow & develop and has 4 years left on his deal.

It would be shooting ourselves in the foot to sell Simms unless the offer was really crazy.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #77
Wouldn't be worried if we lost Simms either.

He's been immense since Jan and will be immense next year but we would need an absurd offer to move him with 3 years on his deal and the English tax that we could easily break our record fee to replace him.

I don't think he'll go anyway. Might be agent stirring for a new deal.
 
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fatso

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #78
Deity said:
I think it was being dropped, getting a few odd mins here and there that killed his confidence ….
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He got dropped because he was absolute fucking dog shit for ages!

Amazing how peoples perception changes when a player finally shows an improvement in work rate and effort, and its amazing how his form improved once he pulled his head out of his arse.

Credit where its due, he finally showed what he's capable of, it's just a pity it took so long.
 

TomRad85

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #79
fatso said:
He got dropped because he was absolute fucking dog shit for ages!

Amazing how peoples perception changes when a player finally shows an improvement in work rate and effort, and its amazing how his form improved once he pulled his head out of his arse.

Credit where its due, he finally showed what he's capable of, it's just a pity it took so long.
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Oh dear. It was obvious he should have been playing over Godden who is now absolutely done at Championship level. Fair play to Simms for ramming the words back down the doubters throats.

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SleepyGinger

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #80
Not advocating selling him but we built a whole team with 35 million last summer, if we got similar for sheaf and Simms I’d like to see the squad we could put together.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #81
TomRad85 said:
Oh dear. It was obvious he should have been playing over Godden who is now absolutely done at Championship level. Fair play to Simms for ramming the words back down the doubters throats.

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Bloke behind me doesn’t know what to do anymore now he can’t shout abuse at Wright and Simms…the bellend
 
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TomRad85

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #82
CCFCSteve said:
Bloke behind me doesn’t know what to do anymore now he can’t shout abuse at Wright and Simms…the bellend
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Yep they've both completely embarrassed quite a few

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #83
SleepyGinger said:
Not advocating selling him but we built a whole team with 35 million last summer, if we got similar for sheaf and Simms I’d like to see the squad we could put together.
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You’d have to replace two pretty important players once again. What we’re doing in practice gives us 2 seasons to go up before we need to sell and rebuild.

We need to think more about next summer’s window, let alone this one. For me that means successors for Simms and MVE in particular and quite possibly even Sakamoto. Let’s make it easier for ourselves.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #84
MrBlueFace said:
Whispers coming from the club that he's attracting a lot of interest and isn't against a quick move back to the PL or another higher level league.
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You can't blame him for that , however I think it's better for him to show if he can score as many next season then look at moving if the club agrees.
 
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PVA

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #85
I really don't see anyone paying the ~£15m it would need to get him.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #86
MrBlueFace said:
We said that about Gyokores 18 months ago. We ended selling him for 20m and now he's worth 100m.
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I was just going to make that point.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #87
PVA said:
I really don't see anyone paying the ~£15m it would need to get him.
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It wouldn’t be daft for Everton to bid for him with the in built discount they’d get and him being a home grown player. Plus they’re always partial to a stupidly inflated fee or two.
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • May 1, 2024
  • #88
MrBlueFace said:
Loads and loads of over priced players from league one?
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i wonder who this is...
 
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Matt smith

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #89
MrBlueFace said:
We said that about Gyokores 18 months ago. We ended selling him for 20m and now he's worth 100m.
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Simms has 3 years left on his contract
 
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cstring82

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #90
CCFCSteve said:
Bloke behind me doesn’t know what to do anymore now he can’t shout abuse at Wright and Simms…the bellend
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You’re not in Block 23 are you…
The lad (moron) was bit over the top with the f’ing and hefting last night as his dad wasn’t there to keep him in line and everyone including Simms and Wright targeted again!
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • May 1, 2024
  • #91
Again if you can sell really high you kind of have to but it starts to become a worryingly high turnover of players again.

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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 1, 2024
  • #92
Sick Boy said:
The idea that we’re somehow following the Brighton and Brentford model is just ridiculous.
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Or any model at all really
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 1, 2024
  • #93
Simms has had a good run of goalscoring form but he's not at the level Gyokeres was even in his first season here, where he was an almost constant threat
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • May 1, 2024
  • #94
MrBlueFace said:
So is worth roughly 10-15 million currently?
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Don’t forget the English tax
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 1, 2024
  • #95
MrBlueFace said:
Good point. Who was the last English player to score 20 odd championship goals at his age?!
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Morgan Whittaker who is almost exactly the same age with 6 more league goals.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #96
English striker getting a move to the Premiership will cost a lot more than Vik.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 1, 2024
  • #97
MrBlueFace said:
Both will probably be targets for Brentford to replace Toney
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If Plymouth go down on Saturday it’ll knock a huge wedge off his price. If he stays they could get enough to build a squad. Huge for them that they stay up
 
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pusbccfc

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #98
AFCCOVENTRY said:
English striker getting a move to the Premiership will cost a lot more than Vik.
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If anyone offered more than we got for Vik, we should snap their hands off quicker than Simms can control a simple ball.
 

Cov4life

Well-Known Member
  • May 1, 2024
  • #99
15 -20 million for simms? I’d drive him there

Scored a few goals but I’m just not sure on him
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • May 1, 2024
  • #100
CCFCSteve said:
Bloke behind me doesn’t know what to do anymore now he can’t shout abuse at Wright and Simms…the bellend
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I have a bloke like they behind me. Relentless moaning every game. Tempted to move seats but I’ll probably get another dickhead
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • May 1, 2024
  • #101
pusbccfc said:
If anyone offered more than we got for Vik, we should snap their hands off quicker than Simms can control a simple ball.
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not very quickly then
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • May 1, 2024
  • #102
djr8369 said:
I have a bloke like they behind me. Relentless moaning every game. Tempted to move seats but I’ll probably get another dickhead
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Same as on here then.
 
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Diogenes

Well-Known Member
  • May 1, 2024
  • #103
He's come on massively and is one of the first names on the team sheet for me. I was a huge critic before Christmas but have eaten my words and a few slices of humble pie. I don't want him to go anywhere and hope he stays and continues to develop as he is.

However, and this may be a bit picky, you can't ignore the fact 6 of those goals came in two games against very poor opposition. Take those out and 13 goals is still good first season but it's not world beating.

It feels weird to say this of a 19 goal striker, but it doesn't feel like he has consistently been a thorn in the side of teams (a la vic) or who will win a game by himself out of nowhere. His profile has been elevated massively by the big cup goals and if someone comes in with a ridiculously good offer we have to move him on.

I just have this feeling that his head is liable to drop and he is likely to return to early season form for long periods when the chips are down.
 

biggymania

Well-Known Member
  • May 1, 2024
  • #104
I don't think you can expect many strikers like Gyokeres to come along often, so comparing Simms or anyone to him is just a waste of time.

For me Simms is growing in confidence, his movement is getting better and he is beginning to use his physique much more. To have more than replaced Gyokeres' goals with him and Wright is a good platform to build on.

In games recently where he hasn't factored, I think that's more down to the way we're playing than him. I see him working hard and making space, but we're not moving the ball fast enough and in the right areas.

There's more to come from him, I think.
 
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False9

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #105
djr8369 said:
I have a bloke like they behind me. Relentless moaning every game. Tempted to move seats but I’ll probably get another dickhead
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Do I sit near you
 
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