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Deity

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #36
SleepyGinger said:
Crazy to think Godden was starting over Simms and Wright earlier in the season. Shows how far they have both come over the year.
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I look at that period as a wasted opportunity …. Robins persisted with Godden and didn’t give Ellis any run of matches …..
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #37
Deity said:
I look at that period as a wasted opportunity …. Robins persisted with Godden and didn’t give Ellis any run of matches …..
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TBF he played in pretty much every game just off the bench.
 

LastChance

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #38
Skyblueweeman said:
We're so lucky that we've got two great attacking players capable of 20 goals a season. For years we've been crying out for just one. We then had Gyo and after losing him, we now have two. It really is such an important aspect of our season next season, Simms and Wright firing on all cylinders and staying injury free.
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Just need to sort the GK/defence out for next season and we'll smash it with those 2 up front
 
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AOM

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #39
Pretty incredible turnaround from Wright and Simms this season.
Gone from some hoping we can get rid in January to them getting standing ovations when warming up from the bench
 
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Deity

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #40
shmmeee said:
TBF he played in pretty much every game just off the bench.
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That isn’t the same as the manager making it clear he trusts you, believes in you, and allowing you to find your feet at a new club.

I think we can all see that Simms is a confidence player and a pretty low ego guy.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #41
Deity said:
I look at that period as a wasted opportunity …. Robins persisted with Godden and didn’t give Ellis any run of matches …..
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Simms was not ready at that time and it was killing his confidence. Besides he played in every match.
 
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Hincha

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #42
The exciting thing about both Simms & Wright is I think they’ll keep getting better.

We’re gonna have two absolute monsters in our forward line from the start next season.
 
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Hincha

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #43
Deity said:
I look at that period as a wasted opportunity …. Robins persisted with Godden and didn’t give Ellis any run of matches …
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More game time doesn’t always equal quicker progress. Time on the training ground out of the limelight can be more important.

For the same reason, Biamou kept Gyok out of the team during his loan spell.
 

TomRad85

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #44
Deleted member 9744 said:
Simms was not ready at that time and it was killing his confidence. Besides he played in every match.
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Anyone who was banging the drum for Godden over Simms now has egg on their face. Godden poached a few goals sure but he's been a painful watch all season, an absolute passenger.

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ccfcricoh

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #45
Skyblue_CP said:
What a turn around and what a player, credit to him. Haji aswell, think last night proved we are considerably better with both of them on the pitch.
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the 2 of them next season will absolutely destroy teams...powerful and quick - just got to pray for a lack of injuries
 
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Deity

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #46
Deleted member 9744 said:
Simms was not ready at that time and it was killing his confidence. Besides he played in every match.
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I think it was being dropped, getting a few odd mins here and there that killed his confidence ….
 
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False9

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #47
skybluecam said:
Doubt he’ll get a look in for 3/4 years at least- Kane, Watkins, Toney, Solanke then even Wilson, DCL and Abraham. He’d have to be making a serious mark in the prem to challenge any of those.
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They're all a fair bit older than Simms. I don't see anyone better under 23 at the moment which probably says more about England!

I'm sure someone will appear but he should definitely be in the reckoning in a couple of years if continuing to progress.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #48
Sure some, who just didn’t want to let go of their original assessment/justify the stick they dished out to a young player, were still having a go after West Brom away (one bad game after decent run). Loved hearing his song sung after one of his runs last night, not just after a goal.

Obviously a confidence player so hoping he continues to get fans backing even during barren spells in future. If he does I’m sure we’ll be more than repaid as he’s a beast when his confidence is high
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #49
SleepyGinger said:
Crazy to think Godden was starting over Simms and Wright earlier in the season. Shows how far they have both come over the year.
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Also how far he has gone back he looked finished last night
 
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skybluecam

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #50
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Also how far he has gone back he looked finished last night
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Switched focus to his golf career
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #51
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Also how far he has gone back he looked finished last night
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He’ll surely drop down to L1 and continue to get goals.
 
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ptr

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #52
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Also how far he has gone back he looked finished last night
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Has been uncomfortable watching him this year. Too slow too weak. Can’t fault his effort though.

Looking forward to having a younger backup striker to Simms and Wright. Someone to come off the bench and add something.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #53
If Simms got a quarter of the amount of goals he got in the second half of the season, in the first half of the season he would be on 25 goals now.

I'm excited to see how many he can manage next year.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #54
50 goals 50 goals
Wright and Simmo
50 goals 50 goals I say

50 goals 50 goals
Wright and Simmo
Playing football the donkey way
 
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skybluecam

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #55
Tbf on last nights display can’t help but think he’s taken his foot off the gas in training. Did not look anywhere near the level.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #56
Ccfcisparks said:
If Simms got a quarter of the amount of goals he got in the second half of the season, in the first half of the season he would be on 25 goals now.

I'm excited to see how many he can manage next year.
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Ok, proof!
 

MikeyMoo

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #57
TomRad85 said:
Anyone who was banging the drum for Godden over Simms now has egg on their face. Godden poached a few goals sure but he's been a painful watch all season, an absolute passenger.

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My only commenty on this is that like all our subs, he did pretty well when he came on was ManU. Helped link play and kept us on the front foot. This is true even if all our other attacking players, including Tavares are better.
 
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Brylowes

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #58
It's no surprise to me that a lot of Everton fans wanted to keep him and after his initial loan, it's no surprise Sunderland fans were willing their club to sign him, what I did find surprising however, was how quick many here were writing him off.
 

SleepyGinger

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #59

Coventry striker Ellis Simms lined up for return to Premier League by two clubs

ELLIS SIMMS is wanted by TWO Premier League clubs this summer. The Coventry City hitman has lit up the Championship this season after a slow start following last summer’s switch from Everton. The 2…
www.thesun.co.uk
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 1, 2024
  • #60
If we end up selling him I’d start to feel pretty disillusioned.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #61
SleepyGinger said:

Coventry striker Ellis Simms lined up for return to Premier League by two clubs

ELLIS SIMMS is wanted by TWO Premier League clubs this summer. The Coventry City hitman has lit up the Championship this season after a slow start following last summer’s switch from Everton. The 2…
www.thesun.co.uk
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If we get offered £20m i think we would be daft not to sell...
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #62
Sick Boy said:
If we end up selling him I’d start to feel pretty disillusioned.
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I think it would be a mistake for him as well. He’s come along massively this season but still got some rawness, like Gyokeres after his first full season with us. Stay for another season and see where he/we get to
 
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Governmac

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #63
That would be grim.
 
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napolimp

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #64
Sick Boy said:
If we end up selling him I’d start to feel pretty disillusioned.
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Why? Everyone keeps on referencing the Brentford and Brighton "models". This is what we have started doing well, and we need to keep going. We buy the right players, at the right time, for the right price, and then sell when offers come in we can't refuse. We re-invest by possibly replacing with 2+ high potential players, growing the depth of the squad, with part of the cash used to sustain the club.

The health of this squad has never been better, we may be a few players short in terms of depth but pretty much only had one loan around the first team all season.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 1, 2024
  • #65
napolimp said:
Why? Everyone keeps on referencing the Brentford and Brighton "models". This is what we have started doing well, and we need to keep going. We buy the right players, at the right time, for the right price, and then sell when offers come in we can't refuse. We re-invest by possibly replacing with 2+ high potential players, growing the depth of the squad, with part of the cash used to sustain the club.

The health of this squad has never been better, we may be a few players short in terms of depth but pretty much only had one loan around the first team all season.
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It’s fine if we want to be sustainable I suppose but if we’re serious about promotion we can’t keep letting our best players go every season and then having another summer rebuilding.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #66
I’d like to think we wouldn’t cash in this summer but Viveash has mentioned they still see Haji as a number 9 and with EMC signing…
 
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napolimp

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #67
Sick Boy said:
It’s fine if we want to be sustainable I suppose but if we’re serious about promotion we can’t keep letting our best players go every season and then having another summer rebuilding.
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Can't argue with this, the only thing I'd say is that even if Sheaf and Simms did leave, because of the investment that has been made in the squad due to certain players being sold previously, you would only really have 2 new players in the line-up to settle in - 3 if you decide not to play Palmer. This is in stark contrast to having to replace loans and any sold players.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #68
I think Simms himself probably knows he needs at least another season at this level. Going nowhere this summer unless it’s a ridiculous offer
 
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Balli001

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #69
Sick Boy said:
It’s fine if we want to be sustainable I suppose but if we’re serious about promotion we can’t keep letting our best players go every season and then having another summer rebuilding.
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I mean Brentford seemed to manage tbh.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • May 1, 2024
  • #70
Balli001 said:
I mean Brentford seemed to manage tbh.
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Their circumstances were nothing like ours. They had an owner pumping millions into the club, same as Brighton.
 
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