jordan210
Well-Known Member
At this rate there will be so many ideas to vote it won't be possible to get any thing passed.
Ipswich board now saying they proposed a 10 team playoffs and possibly including the top 2!! They can fuck right off with that one
That's how I understood it, hence my post. But you are right, it's batshit. It may appeal to enough teams to get it through though.There's a clarification on the Tranmere site which makes it even more batshit crazy than I originally thought. The whole point of the proposed regulation from the EFL is that a rule is but in place for consistency across the divisions. Tranmere are now saying their proposal allows each division to do something different. They've given an example that the Championship could use straight PPG, L1 their weird margin of error thing, and L2 use current positions with no relegation!
So rather than standardising things and then just requiring each division to vote on playing on or stopping the season if Tranmere's proposal passed we'd be back to square one with each division arguing which method to use.
Totally agree, but under Tranmere's proposal there will be 2 promotion slots, and my point is that if the vote is really close, the Tranmere proposal might just swing it, even though it is rubbish.Why would the teams who say they want to finish the season vote for a proposal that ends it? I get why Posh and Sunderland might but if the 4 teams in the playoffs now are voting for a scenario that ends the season it'll be the one where only 3 other teams are in the playoffs with them
I think that's the intention?At this rate there will be so many ideas to vote it won't be possible to get any thing passed.
Its like a vicious circle.I think that's the intention?
Doesn't that mean more than one option could get over the 51% needed?The votes aren't all going up against each other. If one fails they move onto to the next one. I'd be very surprised if one doesn't get passed and it'll most likely be the original EFL proposal.
If the option with the lowest votes dropped out each time a ballet takes place, eventually they would end up with only two options left.
Hopefully they will stick to their original two options.
I’ve an idea. Why don’t we have a league of 23 teams, play each other home and away then have promotions and relegation.Ipswich board now saying they proposed a 10 team playoffs and possibly including the top 2!! They can fuck right off with that one
"But only if they have played more than thirty consecutive seasons in the top flight", just so that it is fairer and has more integrity.every amend is due to personal interest, i cant understand how it can be given validity. We might as well make an amendment which says "the league one club at the top of the table at lockdown is automatically promoted to the premier league"
This is how I think it will go. Vote 1 or vote 2 will get over the line I believe.This is a guess
They are unlikely to go for a single transferable vote or other form of multiple vote - legal shithouse
- I would assume first up they vote to accept or reject the EFL proposal as it represents a change in the rules and is the EFL recommendation. It has priority. If it passes, game over
- If it fails I assume they move onto the Tranmere proposal if it has sufficient support to indicate it has a chance of success. No idea how they measure that. But then the voting dynamics are different. If that fails then we play on
- I don't think there is a positive vote needed to play on, as that is what happens if no vote to end the season is passed.
- This is why I think null and void can't happen by default.
They’re just doing them in order. First vote fails then they move onto the next one. End the voting as soon as one of them passes.It's a good point actually. Do they all go up against each other and you can only vote for one or is it 2nd preferences etc. or what?
As long as they all end up sending up Sky Blue smoke.They’re just doing them in order. First vote fails then they move onto the next one. End the voting as soon as one of them passes.
Well that seems kinda bonkers in itself depending on the order of them.They’re just doing them in order. First vote fails then they move onto the next one. End the voting as soon as one of them passes.
Everybody relax and chill out
Its going to be a Sky Blue day next Tuesday
Tranmere’s document is really badly written with the financial consequences tables being particularly bad.Lincoln proposal - when to deduct points from PPG, this actually makes sense for me and is a fairer way of doing things, it has no impact on final positions from normal PPG but it could in a different season if this were to happen again, Bolton would effectively finish on 21.6 pts this season as opposed to 18.1. So nothing major but if we are writing these into rules going forward i think this is reasonable.
Stevenage - dont think this will stand up, just not having relegation from L2, and doesnt particularly make sense, why not all leagues?
Ipswich - just want to extend the playoffs, if a season needs to finish prematurely, then demanding more games than required seems wrong, non starter for me.
Barnsley - no relegation, promotion but no relegation seems wrong, you either say positions are final or not for me
Tranmere - absolute shambles as expected, and no logic to their workings at all.
I think the most sensible outcome, whether wanted or not is simple PPG with maybe the Lincoln amendment.
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