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EFL to end season this week - City likely to be promoted (9 Viewers)

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Grendel

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,416
What happens if teams abstain?
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,417
Sad fact is Sunderland can't even afford to 'bribe' (not suggesting they would) teams like Southend and Bolton to play on. If they were in a better financial state, I wouldn't have blamed them for trying that (it's probably illegal!) but think they are stuffed financially, which is why they are so desperate for the lottery ticket chance of playing on.
 
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ICHAN

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,418
Can't see tweets ;-( anyone know why? Cheers
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,419
Grendel said:
What happens if teams abstain?
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Please change your avatar, and then you'll warrant a reply!
 
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oakey

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,420
Already 8 League One clubs are reported to have come out publicly to end now.
Only 4 to go
Ccfc
Rotherham
Wycombe
Wimbledon
Burton
Accrington
Shrewsbury
Rochdale
 
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Rodders1

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,421
Sorry this may have already been stated.... but when is the vote and when will it been announced? Or is that a complete unknown at the mo?
 
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shepardo01

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,422
Rodders1 said:
Sorry this may have already been stated.... but when is the vote and when will it been announced? Or is that a complete unknown at the mo?
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Two votes will take place, 71 EFL clubs will vote to agree to rule change (1st vote... this will mean that if agreed and this happens in future, PPG will be the "rule") This needs 51% to pass;
Then the division itself can choose its own course (2nd vote) play on or end on PPG. Also 51% gets through....
Unknown when these will take place.
Some sources saying up to two weeks.
Others saying next week.
 
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covboy1987

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,423
- Cov should be promoted on the fact they are 5 points clear 1 game in hand and 2 games in hand on some chasers -and the fact from comments that 99% of their fellow league 1 clubs think the same- The rest should play a mini tournament for the final two places - how many teams take part in that small tournament would be the debate - Alternatively Barnsley & Luton Relegated as they are off the pace and Cov and one other (winners of mini tournament) should go up
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,424
covboy1987 said:
- Cov should be promoted on the fact they are 5 points clear 1 game in hand and 2 games in hand on some chasers -and the fact from comments that 99% of their fellow league 1 clubs think the same- The rest should play a mini tournament for the final two places - how many teams take part in that small tournament would be the debate - Alternatively Barnsley & Luton Relegated as they are off the pace and Cov and one other (winners of mini tournament) should go up
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Ridiculous. You can’t not promote a team in the top 2 because they aren’t enough points clear otherwise this sets a precedent everywhere. Tranmere would be able to say we’re only 3 points off avoiding the drop so we want a tournament too
 
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Brylowes

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,425
covboy1987 said:
- Cov should be promoted on the fact they are 5 points clear 1 game in hand and 2 games in hand on some chasers -and the fact from comments that 99% of their fellow league 1 clubs think the same- The rest should play a mini tournament for the final two places - how many teams take part in that small tournament would be the debate - Alternatively Barnsley & Luton Relegated as they are off the pace and Cov and one other (winners of mini tournament) should go up
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Easy as that ‘who knew.
 
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Malaka

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,426
Brylowes said:
Easy as that ‘who knew.
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Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,427
Anyone know the bloke who's garden was featured on Midlands Today earlier? Absolutely brilliant! A great tribute garden to CCFC!
 

BackRoomRummermill

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,428
Houchens Head said:
Anyone know the bloke who's garden was featured on Midlands Today earlier? Absolutely brilliant! A great tribute garden to CCFC!
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Mick Coop ?
 

CanadianCCFC

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,429
covboy1987 said:
- Cov should be promoted on the fact they are 5 points clear 1 game in hand and 2 games in hand on some chasers -and the fact from comments that 99% of their fellow league 1 clubs think the same- The rest should play a mini tournament for the final two places - how many teams take part in that small tournament would be the debate - Alternatively Barnsley & Luton Relegated as they are off the pace and Cov and one other (winners of mini tournament) should go up
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Are you insane they can’t change the rules
 

Frostie

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,430
Bit embarrassing this...

 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,431
Next season's L1 could include Sunderland, Ipswich, Peterboro, Pompey (?). Luton, Barnsley, Charlton or Hull. Not going to be easy to get out of that league for the big names again next season.
 
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Brylowes

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,432
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Next season's L1 could include Sunderland, Ipswich, Peterboro, Pompey (?). Luton, Barnsley, Charlton or Hull. Not going to be easy to get out of that league for the big names again next season.
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I’ll tell you who it won’t contain :emoji_stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
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Otis

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,433
Brylowes said:
I’ll tell you who it won’t contain :emoji_stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
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Bolton?
 
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tisza

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,434
Frostie said:
Bit embarrassing this...

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Fair play for finally realizing there is a bigger picture.
Very difficult to see how a lot of L1 & 2 clubs can survive being BCD this season, let alone when it continues into next season.
 

hill83

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,435
tisza said:
Fair play for finally realizing there is a bigger picture.
Very difficult to see how a lot of L1 & 2 clubs can survive being BCD this season, let alone when it continues into next season.
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He hasn’t. That was the 12th March.
More of whatever suits him at the time.
 
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tisza

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,436
hill83 said:
He hasn’t. That was the 12th March.
More of whatever suits him at the time.
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Then that makes him a real piece of work. And a cheap hypocrite.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,437
Frostie said:
Bit embarrassing this...

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Been working 17 hours so far today so can’t understand properly but does that mean he has given up?
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,438
Sick Boy said:
Been working 17 hours so far today so can’t understand properly but does that mean he has given up?
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It's an old tweet. Pretty much shows that his current crusade is nothing to do with fairness, he's just shit the bed now he's realised that Peterborough would miss out.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,439
SeaSeeEffCee said:
It's an old tweet. Pretty much shows that his current crusade is nothing to do with fairness, he's just shit the bed now he's realised that Peterborough would miss out.
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Wow that’s a shock!!
The guys a dickhead.
 

better days

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #2,440
Rodders1 said:
Sorry this may have already been stated.... but when is the vote and when will it been announced? Or is that a complete unknown at the mo?
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Around 2nd or 3rd June I believe
 

JimmyHillsbeard

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #2,441
Ok somebody try to reassure me please.

1) both options seem to contain extra games - either to finish the season for everyone (that’s 200 matches) or a behind closed doors play off system. Even the latter doesn’t look remotely feasible to me.
2) even if the EFL decide on ending the season with promotion and relegation, isn’t that contingent on the EPL allowing promotion into and relegation from the Premier League. Now if it’s complicated and a legal mine-field in League One that will be a walk in the park compared to the prospect for litigation in the top-flight.

I’ve a bad feeling that null and void (or at least no promotion or relegation) could still be the only option left after the EFL and EPL fail to agree a way to accommodate members’ wishes. Relegation causes a world of legal pain and even if the promotion places could be sorted there is no support for the ‘promote everyone, relegate no-one’ option of a few weeks back.

Pressing the reset button is still quite likely I fear. This is because the only clubs who could harbour a serious grievance against that are the very few who looked nailed on for promotion - Leeds, West Brom, Us, Crewe and Swindon - and with none of them being mathematically up even with the best will in the world and the best lawyers money could buy it’s an unwinnable case.

Somebody, anybody, please reassure me. Tell me why and how I’m wrong. Go.
 
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ICHAN

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #2,442
JimmyHillsbeard said:
Ok somebody try to reassure me please.

1) both options seem to contain extra games - either to finish the season for everyone (that’s 200 matches) or a behind closed doors play off system. Even the latter doesn’t look remotely feasible to me.
2) even if the EFL decide on ending the season with promotion and relegation, isn’t that contingent on the EPL allowing promotion into and relegation from the Premier League. Now if it’s complicated and a legal mine-field in League One that will be a walk in the park compared to the prospect for litigation in the top-flight.

I’ve a bad feeling that null and void (or at least no promotion or relegation) could still be the only option left after the EFL and EPL fail to agree a way to accommodate members’ wishes. Relegation causes a world of legal pain and even if the promotion places could be sorted there is no support for the promote everyone, relegate no-one option of a few weeks back.

Pressing the reset button is still quite likely I fear. This is because the only clubs who could harbour a serious grievance against that are the very few who looked nailed on for promotion - Leeds, West Brom, Us, Crewe and Swindon - and with none of them being mathematically up and even with the best will in the world and the best lawyers money could buy it’s an unwinnable case.

Somebody, anybody, please reassure me. Tell me why and how I’m wrong. Go.
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Null and void off the table as far as my head/brain can get around all this lot, the way I see this shit fest and posturing by managers and chairmen who keep changing their minds for (keeping face with fans) we get promoted as champions and let's be honest we fully deserve it with what the team and management have had to do, if we were a prem team lineker etc would have been creaming themselves about.
 
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oakey

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #2,443
Season will not be voided and relegation won’t be scrapped, says FA chairman Greg Clarke | Sport | The Times

Hope link works. It was reported in The Times that FA have power to compel PL and FL to ensure season ends with promotion and relegation and they have already insisted this must happen.
 

oakey

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #2,444
The EFL have said that if play offs can't be staged they will have to think of another way to resolve the third promoted team from League One ... at a later date.
 

oakey

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #2,445
In addition it looks likely that the EFL are looking for the clubs to vote for ending the season to cover their arse from clubs that fancy suing.
 

alfielloyd

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #2,446
Malaka said:
The thing about saying you want to play on means a manager could say "we was robbed' if only we could have finished the season' gives them bargaining power and wins the fans support. I think it is fair to say, some directors will be saying one thing and doing another. It ain't cheap playing in the Championship as Burton Albion found out. Some directors are not going to want the financial outlay, but will say another thing, because they have to. Those in the play off positions are not going to want to risk missing out on a chance to go up. Whilst I appreciate that we were in great form and if the season had carried on, I am pretty sure we would have gone up automatically. But after such a long break, it is a lottery and we could blow it, but that is the same for everyone. That's why I think that the top six will vote for PPG and I think that will be the same for the Championship. The only teams that will complain are those who are down and those on the fringes of the play offs. The rest of what they say is rhetoric imo.
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absolutely, after what would be a three month break form is no longer a factor, there would be a bucketful of random results.
 

alfielloyd

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #2,447
AFCCOVENTRY said:
#ShrewsburyTown and #AFCWimbledon have officially confirmed they have voted for the League One season to be ended early and decided via PPG!
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although it will be painful TRFC will not vote to continue to play, digging up your pitch sort of indicates their season is over. please somebody tell me why BRFC will want to continue?! unless they are on the receiving end of a bung they have no reason to continue. gillingham cannot seriously believe they will get promoted...….it is done.
 

ICHAN

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #2,448
alfielloyd said:
absolutely, after what would be a three month break form is no longer a factor, there would be a bucketful of random results.
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still think we would carry on where we left off, no one would fancy playing us, the team spirit was amazing, especially the aeroplane celebration (should do that every time inmo) especially dabo coming across from the wing like a jet pilot
 

alfielloyd

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #2,449
ICHAN said:
still think we would carry on where we left off, no one would fancy playing us, the team spirit was amazing, especially the aeroplane celebration (should do that every time inmo) especially dabo coming across from the wing like a jet pilot
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it would be great to think so but bear in mind our players have been furloughed so there has been no collective training etc. it is a fair possibility that many of our players will have not been quite as disciplined as you would expect.
 
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ICHAN

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #2,450
alfielloyd said:
it would be great to think so but bear in mind our players have been furloughed so there has been no collective training etc. it is a fair possibility that many of our players will have not been quite as disciplined as you would expect.
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Same as every other team alfiellyod (Lloyd McGrath?) just think personally (followed us in the 80’s , early 90’s religiously home and away) watch on I follow now because of personal circumstances (would love to go now) the team I see are so together it’s amazing( (as I put, dabo,aeroplane across the pitch when Shipley scored, dam busters is what we should come out to) shows me that they are a unit of players who love playing for Coventry and THEY shan’t be defeated till the game is win.
I just feel that’s what MR and Vivesh has installed in them as a team
Respect your view btw
 
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