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EFL Meeting 1pm today (4 Viewers)

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  • Start date Apr 21, 2020
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chiefdave

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #141
Liquid Gold said:
Only dead rubber fixtures because they have nothing to play for. Can we all start to call them dead rubber when cash gets a bit tight. sets a very dangerous precedent.
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Exactly. Every team has dead games at the end of the season. Is it now going to be acceptable for teams to say they don't want to play them as it will cost money?

Also, are they really dead games. They are 8 points clear of relegation with 9 games to go and Tranmere have a game in hand on them. They've lost 3 of their last 4. If that was us I wouldn't be considering things all over and looking to next season.
 

Irish Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #142
Grendel said:
We did once survive on dead rubber fixtures and Norwich were relegated which only happened due to timing
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Surely a dead rubber fixture is where both teams have nothing to play for? In those fixtures, Stoke Luton and Everton, each match meant a great deal to us. In addition, Stoke and Luton players certainly weren’t taking it easy and made life as difficult for us as they could.
 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #143
Otis said:
What the hell? Geez.
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Man is a pure nob

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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #144
chiefdave said:
Exactly. Every team has dead games at the end of the season. Is it now going to be acceptable for teams to say they don't want to play them as it will cost money?

Also, are they really dead games. They are 8 points clear of relegation with 9 games to go and Tranmere have a game in hand on them. They've lost 3 of their last 4. If that was us I wouldn't be considering things all over and looking to next season.
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Yeah they could still be relegated. Their top scorer was also out injured which I guess had something to do with their bad form.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #145
Irish Sky Blue said:
Surely a dead rubber fixture is where both teams have nothing to play for? In those fixtures, Stoke Luton and Everton, each match meant a great deal to us. In addition, Stoke and Luton players certainly weren’t taking it easy and made life as difficult for us as they could.
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No the point is teams with zero to play for and under this backdrop will have a totally different outlook than if they were playing in the actual season. Stoke were shite and the guy who missed a penalty we oddly signed and never played, the Everton game was a disgrace - we’d have gone down if they were played as normal fixtures
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #146
Liquid Gold said:
"If it is a choice for us between playing dead rubber fixtures or surviving, we will be surviving"

Only dead rubber fixtures because they have nothing to play for. Can we all start to call them dead rubber when cash gets a bit tight. sets a very dangerous precedent.
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They are still in the relegation fold potentially, not mathematically safe yet
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #147
Grendel said:
No the point is teams with zero to play for and under this backdrop will have a totally different outlook than if they were playing in the actual season. Stoke were shite and the guy who missed a penalty we oddly signed and never played, the Everton game was a disgrace - we’d have gone down if they were played as normal fixtures
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I saw all three of those games. Stoke were shocking all season and in that game we were as bad as them. The one think that you could say for both teams was that they gave their best, in other words Stoke didn’t simply roll over. Ian Painter was the guy who missed the pen and later signed for us.
You say we would have lost to Everton as if it were a fact. It’s not. You cannot say with any certainty that we would not have beaten them even if the circumstances were different. Football is littered with unexpected results. Even this season Norwich and Watford have both upset the apple cart.
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #148
Nick said:
Yeah but how can they vote without knowing that?
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The EFL saw the backlash from the lower National Leagues when they arbitrarily voided the season, so they decided to separate the questions.

As we get closer to 30th June, I think the players' contractual situation has forced the clubs' hands. Clubs with nothing to play for aren't going to retain players once their contracts are up, so Holt is right, they will be playing the kids. I really can't see us completing our games. Conversely I still think we'll be promoted though and that the EFL will decide it on PPG.
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #149
So when will it be opportune to decide the outcome of that league?
Once they've tricked leagues 2and1 into the same decision.
Sure I saw an article yesterday suggesting Prem + Championship only to be resolved through playing of games.
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #150
wingy said:
So when will it be opportune to decide the outcome of that league?
Once they've tricked leagues 2and1 into the same decision.
Sure I saw an article yesterday suggesting Prem + Championship only to be resolved through playing of games.
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^ I suspect that too.

By putting it out as a vote, they already know which way it'll go as it's in the interest of 75% of clubs to end it now.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #151
wingy said:
So when will it be opportune to decide the outcome of that league?
Once they've tricked leagues 2and1 into the same decision.
Sure I saw an article yesterday suggesting Prem + Championship only to be resolved through playing of games.
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We could get these seasons done behind closed doors in a month, talk of cancelling the season is mostly being spearheaded by those who have nothing to play for or those who think relegation will be off the table. Get the games done and give people kept indoors something to be positive about
 
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covcity4life

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #152
I wonder how ccfc/sisu are getting on? Is oir survival at risk?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #153
MusicDating said:
^ I suspect that too.

By putting it out as a vote, they already know which way it'll go as it's in the interest of 75% of clubs to end it now.
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That's fine just give us a 67 point headstart next season
 
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chiefdave

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #154
MusicDating said:
Clubs with nothing to play for aren't going to retain players once their contracts are up, so Holt is right, they will be playing the kids.
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How many L1 teams actually have nothing to play for? Holt keeps banging on about it but Accrington are far from safety.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #155
chiefdave said:
How many L1 teams actually have nothing to play for? Holt keeps banging on about it but Accrington are far from safety.
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Aye they have everything to play for

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #156
David O'Day said:
Aye they have everything to play for

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Yes so if it's cancelled his team is guaranteed safe
 

cc84cov

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #157
The league won’t be voided that is a decision that takes balls the EFL don’t have balls they will do as their told by the premier league so these silly little meetings they keep having are irrelevant tbh
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #158
cc84cov said:
The league won’t be voided that is a decision that takes balls the EFL don’t have balls they will do as their told by the premier league so these silly little meetings they keep having are irrelevant tbh
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All the PL have to do is threaten to withhold solidarity payments and the rest will fold
 

JimmyHillsbeard

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #159
Nick said:
Any club that votes for null and voiding should be forced to pay back ticket money, sponsorship money etc that they have gained through the season.
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and presumably West Ham will reinstate Pellegrini as manager if the results from this season are declared void.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #160
JimmyHillsbeard said:
and presumably West Ham will reinstate Pellegrini as manager if the results from this season are declared void.
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Guess Bolton calling off a game because their players were upset at losing was all for nothing
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #161
While we're putting the world to rights can we also say fair play that Wimbledon have got back to the EFL and are getting Plough Lane back but what they're doing to Kingstonians is an outrage.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #162
Liquid Gold said:
While we're putting the world to rights can we also say fair play that Wimbledon have got back to the EFL and are getting Plough Lane back but what they're doing to Kingstonians is an outrage.
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They are pricks, hipster pricks

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Liquid Gold

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #163
David O'Day said:
They are pricks, hipster pricks

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I used to live with a guy who followed Dulwich hamlet (he was a hipster prick too) and he said Wimbledon are roundly hated in non-league.
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #164
Liquid Gold said:
While we're putting the world to rights can we also say fair play that Wimbledon have got back to the EFL and are getting Plough Lane back but what they're doing to Kingstonians is an outrage.
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What's going on?
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #165
Skybluefaz said:
What's going on?
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Kingstonian let them play at Kingsmeadow when they re-formed, a few years in they got into financial trouble and Wimbledon bought the ground from them. Fast forward to now and as the Dons are moving back to Plough Lane they got more cash out of selling Kingsmeadow to Chelsea who want it for exclusive use of their Women's and Under 23s leaving Kingstonian homeless.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #166
Liquid Gold said:
Kingstonian let them play at Kingsmeadow when they re-formed, a few years in they got into financial trouble and Wimbledon bought the ground from them. Fast forward to now and as the Dons are moving back to Plough Lane they got more cash out of selling Kingsmeadow to Chelsea who want it for exclusive use of their Women's and Under 23s leaving Kingstonian homeless.
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Poor form
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #167
To me it seems like a few certain posters on here are hoping the season is declared null and void
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #168
Just a thought - if the season is declared null and void will the players have to give back appearance/goal/assist bonuses etc seeing as they'll have never had occured?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #169
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Just a thought - if the season is declared null and void will the players have to give back appearance/goal/assist bonuses etc seeing as they'll have never had occured?
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No
 

better days

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #170
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Just a thought - if the season is declared null and void will the players have to give back appearance/goal/assist bonuses etc seeing as they'll have never had occured?
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No chance
But they would lose the significant bonuses that they'd get for winning promotion
 
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ceetee

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #171
Ccfcisparks said:
To me it seems like a few certain posters on here are hoping the season is declared null and void
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Certainly there are those who do not want any success whatsoever under the current owners but I'm not sure whether any of them post on here
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #172
If the season is cancelled to me the definition is null and void in which case we go back to the start .If their interpretion is to finish the season and award promotion and relegation I don't think our division would quite get the 75% which would be needed I could see a least 6 teams that would disagee taking it just below that magic number or would it be all the EFL votes counted together.
As for Andy Holt he is only trying to save his own clubs interest just like I would expect ours to do the same.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #173
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
If the season is cancelled to me the definition is null and void in which case we go back to the start .If their interpretion is to finish the season and award promotion and relegation I don't think our division would quite get the 75% which would be needed I could see a least 6 teams that would disagee taking it just below that magic number or would it be all the EFL votes counted together.
As for Andy Holt he is only trying to save his own clubs interest just like I would expect ours to do the same.
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That’s fine but then don’t go on about it being for a million other reasons.
 

Brylowes

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #174
Covkid1968# said:
Built a bar in the garden.... with a screen... for purely selfish reasons I would like the season completed with all games screened. So I can get drunk ... do a one man conga up the garden if we win and throw bar stools around if we lose. Only draw back is Neighbours on both sides are Notts Forest so nobody to celebrate with over a garden fence.
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Don’t forget to smash the bogs up :emoji_thinking: whatever the score
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Apr 22, 2020
  • #175
Covkid1968# said:
Only draw back is Neighbours on both sides are Notts Forest so nobody to celebrate with over a garden fence.
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Nottingham Forest fans hate being called Notts Forest, so no wonder they won't celebrate with you.
 
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