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  • Start date Feb 16, 2019
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CJ_covblaze

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  • Feb 17, 2019
  • #36
ccfc92 said:
Have Brentford had their away end fitted with seats now?
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I’m sure clubs have 3 years to put seats in. I’m guessing the EFL will turn a blind eye if it means less paperwork for them.
 
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Warwickhunt

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  • Feb 17, 2019
  • #37
Nick said:
The ones who don't go in Coventry anyway?
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recon we got a high percentage of fans who live in treacle Town anyway
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 17, 2019
  • #38
CJ_covblaze said:
I’m sure clubs have 3 years to put seats in. I’m guessing the EFL will turn a blind eye if it means less paperwork for them.
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With Brentford due to move to a new ground anyway they'll get dispensation

The EFL is pragmatic and rightly so
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 17, 2019
  • #39
dazed&confused said:
And three sides of Burton Albion's Pirelli Stadium are definitely standing room only as well. I was surprised that a club who only last season had been in the Championship were allowed to get away with this, but the rules apparently say that it's only after three years in the Championship that you have to go all seated.
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Yes I think Peterborough seemed to always go up for a couple of years and then back down.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 17, 2019
  • #40
ceetee said:
Had a job to park there for a pre-season game.
The surrounding infrastructure surely can't cope with those sort of numbers.
There again they have to have contingency plan
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Don’t worry you can park on my drive it’s about fifteen minutes walk past a very nice pub
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 17, 2019
  • #41
chiefdave said:
On the face of it you'd think being forced out of Coventry is playing in to SISU's hands. They can no doubt engineer another court case out of that and as we've seen even when they have no hope of winning they can keep these things going for years.

Pissing off the fans by playing out of Coventry wouldn't bother them in the slightest if they felt it gave them the upper hand elsewhere.
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I didn’t go to Northampton but I would watch here as this one feels like we are being pushed out and the martyr in me would mean that I had to go.
 
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CJ_covblaze

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  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #42
fernandopartridge said:
With Brentford due to move to a new ground anyway they'll get dispensation

The EFL is pragmatic and rightly so
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I agree with that approach. Wouldn't be fair to penalise them when they're trying to progress.
 
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covboy1987

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  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #43
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Hope you are right Nick. How many season tickets can Nuneatons ground hold (exits forum!)?
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Got a strange feeling you could be right about Nuneaton as lots of things to point to it - won't be going anyway season ticket holder for 30 years but that would be enough for me
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #44
even before getting EFL approval there are serious hurdles to overcome.

Nuneaton Town do not own the ground so have no say in it (if they are still around)
The Nuneaton Rugby club have already shown how they react to their ground being affected by a football club.
Access to the ground itself is going to be a problem for large numbers
the standard of the ground & pitch would have to be greatly improved
The traffic is a problem. There are long queues every morning and evening through the town already
Do Warwickshire Police have the man power to cover matches, sometimes twice a week?
it isnt just about number of seats ..... there the supporting items for crowd safety, toilets etc that will need to be added and improved

EFL ground regs can be found here

EFL Official Website - Appendix 1 - Membership Criteria (Regulation 8)

Nothing is unsurmountable but it is going to cost and will take time.

Also EFL rules are of course subject to discretion by the EFL board
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #45
I don't think for a minute anyone wants to go to Nuneaton, but I wonder if SISU will use the notion (like they did with The Butts) to try and get leverage in any negotiations with Wasps (that said, I'm not sure Wasps would believe them) Interesting to see who blinks first (as an outsider that is. As a City fan it's it's bloody tortuous)
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #46
oldskyblue58 said:
even before getting EFL approval there are serious hurdles to overcome.

Nuneaton Town do not own the ground so have no say in it (if they are still around)
The Nuneaton Rugby club have already shown how they react to their ground being affected by a football club.
Access to the ground itself is going to be a problem for large numbers
the standard of the ground & pitch would have to be greatly improved
The traffic is a problem. There are long queues every morning and evening through the town already
Do Warwickshire Police have the man power to cover matches, sometimes twice a week?
it isnt just about number of seats ..... there the supporting items for crowd safety, toilets etc that will need to be added and improved

EFL ground regs can be found here

EFL Official Website - Appendix 1 - Membership Criteria (Regulation 8)

Nothing is unsurmountable but it is going to cost and will take time.

Also EFL rules are of course subject to discretion by the EFL board
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The ground is owned by the Port Vale man who is a City fan and if I remember rightly doesn’t think sisu are all that bad and may not have anybody else to use the facilities.

The Nuneaton council is very money hungry and will think of the money it brings to the surrounding area especially if it’s own team goes tits up.

The rugby club have pushed their luck long enough and should be put in their place the local council should tell them to play ball or get ready for the next development for housing to be plonked on the middle of their pitch.

The traffic is bad in the town but you don’t need to go through it to get to the ground and plenty of local parking as the crowds wouldn’t be massive.
 
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skybluesam66

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #47
Terry Gibson's perm said:
The ground is owned by the Port Vale man who is a City fan and if I remember rightly doesn’t think sisu are all that bad and may not have anybody else to use the facilities.

The Nuneaton council is very money hungry and will think of the money it brings to the surrounding area especially if it’s own team goes tits up.

The rugby club have pushed their luck long enough and should be put in their place the local council should tell them to play ball or get ready for the next development for housing to be plonked on the middle of their pitch.

The traffic is bad in the town but you don’t need to go through it to get to the ground and plenty of local parking as the crowds wouldn’t be massive.
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Any ground move, would mean due to lower revenues, our next league move would be League 2 and not the Championship
We could well finish top 8 this season - and does not take significant improvement to turn that into a promotion chasing team, however playing at Nuneaton will probably see our average age go down by another 2 or 3 years
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #48
skybluesam66 said:
Any ground move, would mean due to lower revenues, our next league move would be League 2 and not the Championship
We could well finish top 8 this season - and does not take significant improvement to turn that into a promotion chasing team, however playing at Nuneaton will probably see our average age go down by another 2 or 3 years
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But we don’t know the new rental figure that could be far higher than it is now so the available money would be lower anyway.

I would rather have the team in Nuneaton than no team.
 
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #49
Terry Gibson's perm said:
But we don’t know the new rental figure that could be far higher than it is now so the available money would be lower anyway.

I would rather have the team in Nuneaton than no team.
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Completely agree. I would have thought it was an absolute given, but have seen some people say they would rather the team went under. Absolutely crazy. There won't be a single Sky Blues fan who actively wants to see us play in Nuneaton, but given the available options, it would have to be to carry on at Nuneaton.
 

Warwickhunt

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #50
Solihull Moors ground is better and not to far away?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #51
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
Completely agree. I would have thought it was an absolute given, but have seen some people say they would rather the team went under. Absolutely crazy. There won't be a single Sky Blues fan who actively wants to see us play in Nuneaton, but given the available options, it would have to be to carry on at Nuneaton.
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Some fans strangely want the legals to be dropped more than they want the club.
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #52
Nick said:
Some fans strangely want the legals to be dropped more than they want the club.
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I think it’s more they don’t see a future for the club without the legal being dropped mate.

Silly language about how fans don’t care for the club helps no one.

One side thinks Sisu are needed for the clubs survival, the other thinks they need to be gone for the clubs survival. Neither side doesn’t care about the clubs survival.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #53
shmmeee said:
I think it’s more they don’t see a future for the club without the legal being dropped mate.

Silly language about how fans don’t care for the club helps no one.

One side thinks Sisu are needed for the clubs survival, the other thinks they need to be gone for the clubs survival. Neither side doesn’t care about the clubs survival.
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I said they were more bothered about the legal action being dropped rather than is existing. It's there to see.

I wouldn't really say anybody thinks SISU are "needed" other than RFC.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #54
Nick said:
I said they were more bothered about the legal action being dropped rather than is existing. It's there to see.

I wouldn't really say anybody thinks SISU are "needed" other than RFC.
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So sisu drop legals problem solved, why wouldn't you want that?
Or keep them going and potentially disappear, why would you risk that?
Any way wont be long we'll soon find out.
Hopefully in a couple of weeks, rather then months.

If we do go bust can we blame Brexit?
 

Sbarcher

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #55
Just for information - Oxford rent at the Kassam is around £300,000 per year for a 3-sided, 12,500 stadium. However, they reckon the "service and facility" charge is another £500,000 so it's not only about the headline rent figure.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #56
letsallsingtogether said:
So sisu drop legals problem solved, why wouldn't you want that?
Or keep them going and potentially disappear, why would you risk that?
Any way wont be long we'll soon find out.
Hopefully in a couple of weeks, rather then months.

If we do go bust can we blame Brexit?
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My point is that my sole focus is having a deal rather than just the legals dropped.

If they get dropped and we get a deal, bonus.

I wouldn't turn my nose up at one without though

Just because my main aim is ccfc, don't let your mates banging on about supporting the legal action trick you. The same as their pretend reasons to boycott they made up.

First and foremost it's about ccfc, that's above legal action.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #57
Warwickhunt said:
Solihull Moors ground is better and not to far away?
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Nice try mate - Warwick Station to Solihull 20 minutes !
 

Ricketts

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  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #58
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Don’t worry you can park on my drive it’s about fifteen minutes walk past a very nice pub
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So not in Nuneaton then?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #59
Ricketts said:
So not in Nuneaton then?
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The acorn is a very nice pub and then down to the crows nest
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #60
Terry Gibson's perm said:
The acorn is a very nice pub and then down to the crows nest
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Not bothering with the Harvester? Too upper class?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #61
Nick said:
My point is that my sole focus is having a deal rather than just the legals dropped.

If they get dropped and we get a deal, bonus.

I wouldn't turn my nose up at one without though

Just because my main aim is ccfc, don't let your mates banging on about supporting the legal action trick you. The same as their pretend reasons to boycott they made up.

First and foremost it's about ccfc, that's above legal action.
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I actually don't care what happens as long as we get a deal to play at the Ricoh
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #62
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
I actually don't care what happens as long as we get a deal to play at the Ricoh
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Pretty much summed up my 6 lines in one
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #63
Nick said:
Pretty much summed up my 6 lines in one
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I'm always concise as you know
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #64
Nick said:
Not bothering with the Harvester? Too upper class?
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Never been in there so don’t know what it’s like
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #65
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Never been in there so don’t know what it’s like
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Is the Acorn the one on the left as you go up past the crem?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #66
Nick said:


Is the Acorn the one on the left as you go up past the crem?
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That’s the crows nest the acorn is at the top by horeston grange
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #67
Terry Gibson's perm said:
That’s the crows nest the acorn is at the top by horeston grange
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Yeah I meant that one, I was going the other way past the crem
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #68
The acorn is the nearer one to me in st nics the crows nest which has just been done up is nearer to crow hill.

I like the acorn as it does whitebait as a starter.
 

Ricketts

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #69
I remember when the Crows Nest was first built. Was a decent pub, there and the Attleborough Arms. Posy pubs with good looking clientele. (Me)

Times have changed.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 18, 2019
  • #70
Ricketts said:
I remember when the Crows Nest was first built. Was a decent pub, there and the Attleborough Arms. Posy pubs with good looking clientele. (Me)

Times have changed.
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Have you lost your looks then
 
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