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Transfer Rumour Dylan Vente (1 Viewer)

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TomRad85

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #141
Flying Fokker said:
Unsure if you get it? Don’t judge people by your own standards… Leave it at that hey?
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TomRad85

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #142
SeaSeeEffCee said:

Further evidence this link is completely made up.
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Gives us something to talk about though doesn't it.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #143
TBF Simms and Sakamoto basically came out of nowhere. There’s been a bit about a swap deal a couple of weeks back for Simms, but basically until it was essentially done we didn’t hear anything.

I wouldn’t be surprised if a couple of our next few signings are the same.
 
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Balli001

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #144
shmmeee said:
TBF Simms and Sakamoto basically came out of nowhere. There’s been a bit about a swap deal a couple of weeks back for Simms, but basically until it was essentially done we didn’t hear anything.

I wouldn’t be surprised if a couple of our next few signings are the same.
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Apart from latibeaudiere. Even Andy Turner has picked up on it now
 

fatso

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #145
shmmeee said:
TBF Simms and Sakamoto basically came out of nowhere. There’s been a bit about a swap deal a couple of weeks back for Simms, but basically until it was essentially done we didn’t hear anything.

I wouldn’t be surprised if a couple of our next few signings are the same.
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Probably hear some news when the squad return from Portugal, until then we have to make do with rumours, gossip and forum members arranging fights.

I hate this time of year.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #146
Balli001 said:
Apart from latibeaudiere. Even Andy Turner has picked up on it now
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Only thing I’d say for him is obviously he’s away. But even so the more his name comes up the less likely I think it’ll be
 

Winny the Bish

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #147
shmmeee said:
Only thing I’d say for him is obviously he’s away. But even so the more his name comes up the less likely I think it’ll be
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Is he really going to reject Luton for us?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #148
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
You say that but Jonson Clarke-Harris scores everywhere but for us
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Chaplin, Walker not exactly benefitted by coming to us either
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #149
skyblue93 said:
Is he really going to reject Luton for us?
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Didn’t know they were in for him TBF.
 

TomRad85

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #150
skyblue93 said:
Is he really going to reject Luton for us?
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Possibly. I don't think Luton are even going to make a fist of staying in the league tbh and i doubt they'll be chucking wages about either.
 

Balli001

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #151
TomRad85 said:
Possibly. I don't think Luton are even going to make a fist of staying in the league tbh and i doubt they'll be chucking wages about either.
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Should find put fairly soon with the gold cup ending. Also boddy did say we had 2 very close and we only announced 1 so far
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #152
Balli001 said:
Should find put fairly soon with the gold cup ending. Also boddy did say we had 2 very close and we only announced 1 so far
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Was hoping he meant 2 on top of the 1 that everyone clearly already knew about.
 
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Northeast sky blue

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #153
shmmeee said:
Only thing I’d say for him is obviously he’s away. But even so the more his name comes up the less likely I think it’ll be
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Hasn't someone supposedly itk said he's already signed
 

San Francisco

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #154
SeaSeeEffCee said:

Further evidence this link is completely made up.
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Another reminder that most Twatter accounts are full of shite.
 

no_loyalty

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #155
skyblue93 said:
Is he really going to reject Luton for us?
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Southampton also coming in for him, so we are probably going to miss out.
 

Balli001

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #156
TomRad85 said:
Was hoping he meant 2 on top of the 1 that everyone clearly already knew about.
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Dont think he did tbh. He was interviewed before Sakamoto had been confirmed
 

Balli001

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #157
Northeast sky blue said:
Hasn't someone supposedly itk said he's already signed
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It was GIMOC so.....
 
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Northeast sky blue

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  • Jul 12, 2023
  • #158
Balli001 said:
It was GIMOC so.....
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Enough said
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 13, 2023
  • #159
If we really want a guy who’s mostly famous for scoring loads at the lower levels to be one of our main strikers this season, why not just wait for Tavares to come back?
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 13, 2023
  • #160
SBT said:
If we really want a guy who’s mostly famous for scoring loads at the lower levels to be one of our main strikers this season, why not just wait for Tavares to come back?
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He hasn’t scored loads of goals anywhere
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 13, 2023
  • #161
SBT said:
If we really want a guy who’s mostly famous for scoring loads at the lower levels to be one of our main strikers this season, why not just wait for Tavares to come back?
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Not sure if this is bait, but because Tavares hasn’t scored loads at lower levels?
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 13, 2023
  • #162
shmmeee said:
Not sure if this is bait, but because Tavares hasn’t scored loads at lower levels?
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The U23s league is a lower level for me

Either way - it shows that he “knows where the goal is”. Does it mean he’s good enough to be one of the main men in the Championship?
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 13, 2023
  • #163
SBT said:
The U23s league is a lower level for me

Either way - it shows that he “knows where the goal is”. Does it mean he’s good enough to be one of the main men in the Championship?
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Are we seriously comparing the U23s to the Dutch second division?

We aren’t going to pick up a 20 striker from a top division, they cost €24m
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 13, 2023
  • #164
shmmeee said:
Are we seriously comparing the U23s to the Dutch second division?
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Well given that the Dutch second division consists of several U21 teams, then yes?
 

JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Jul 13, 2023
  • #165
San Francisco said:
I’m hearing rumours Vente is off to Bordeaux and they’re waiting to sell a player before they officially announce him.
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Maybe we should make Bordeaux an offer for Vapotnik to complete the circle of twitter rumours?
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 13, 2023
  • #166
SBT said:
Well given that the Dutch second division consists of several U21 teams, then yes?
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Yes the Young Ajax team is just like Crewe U23.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jul 13, 2023
  • #167
SBT said:
Well given that the Dutch second division consists of several U21 teams, then yes?
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Have you ever been to watch our U23s? It’s like regional non-league level
 

TomRad85

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  • Jul 13, 2023
  • #168
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Have you ever been to watch our U23s? It’s like regional non-league level
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yeh we need to be loaning out more. If for example we start playing Di Trolio in our U23s after bringing him in from St Albans, he's essentially going to be playing at a worse level this year than last.
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 13, 2023
  • #169
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Have you ever been to watch our U23s? It’s like regional non-league level
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What level would we say the Dutch second division is? The only Netherlands-based poster on here said it was comparable to the English non-league.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jul 13, 2023
  • #170
TomRad85 said:
yeh we need to be loaning out more. If for example we start playing Di Trolio in our U23s after bringing him in from St Albans, he's essentially going to be playing at a worse level this year than last.
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We need to get better at finding decent loans for our young players, we’ve had some shocking ones over the last few years that have been a complete waste of time.
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 13, 2023
  • #171
SeaSeeEffCee said:
We need to get better at finding decent loans for our young players, we’ve had some shocking ones over the last few years that have been a complete waste of time.
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Like which ones?

I’d say more than anything it’s the quality of the young players themselves, and our squad depth that’s the issue. Anyone even remotely promising in our youth sides has been needed to fill spots on the bench. Eccles and Tyler are the only players who’ve been afforded proper development loans in the past ten years, everything else is just crowd control.
 

TomRad85

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  • Jul 13, 2023
  • #172
SBT said:
What level would we say the Dutch second division is? The only Netherlands-based poster on here said it was comparable to the English non-league.
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Difficult to say isn't it, scanning through i'd recognise most those names as having being in the Dutch top division at some point, guessing its one of those where teams near bottom of top division and top of second division are pretty similar. Guess its around League 2 level with the crapper teams at the bottom being non league. Regardless his record looks impressive, especially when you consider he's playing for a team that performs poorly, the kind of player you're looking when attempting to unearth a gem for fairly cheap i suppose.
Away from that its probably not worth arguing about as its likely just a bollocks rumour but will be interesting to see where he ends up and how he gets on now we've discussed him in such length.
 

TomRad85

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  • Jul 13, 2023
  • #173
SBT said:
Like which ones?

I’d say more than anything it’s the quality of the young players themselves, and our squad depth that’s the issue. Anyone even remotely promising in our youth sides has been needed to fill spots on the bench. Eccles and Tyler are the only players who’ve been afforded proper development loans in the past ten years, everything else is just crowd control.
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He's right though, towards the back end of the season it just seemed like we were turfing young players out to anywhere without any kind of plan.
 

Alkhen

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 13, 2023
  • #174
rexo87 said:
Would it? We've just got 20m for Vik. If it's less than 10 million then it's worth keeping him for a season imo, he's that influential

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Dangerous game, there is no guarantee a players heart will be 100% in it. It would be in the back of their minds that an injury could scupper any free move at the end of the season and leave them open to being unemployed for a period.

Sort of akin to getting a player back on a loan after a big sale (like Maddison) if their head is even slightly focused elsewhere it can lead to a big drop off in form.

As I said that isn't guaranteed, and I actually think Hamers on pitch temperament would probably mean he'd handle the pressure better than most... but it's a risk especially if the other option is generating a large fee and reinvesting in new players here for the long haul.

I might be tempted to have taken the hit and kept him if the league wasn't so stacked next season, but I think it's going to be incredibly difficult to be one of the 3 promoted teams however much investment we make. The odds aren't in our favour so unless he signs I'd have to cash in and build for the future.
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 13, 2023
  • #175
TomRad85 said:
He's right though, towards the back end of the season it just seemed like we were turfing young players out to anywhere without any kind of plan.
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None of the players we loaned out last season (apart from maybe Rus, I guess?) have any chance of bothering our first team and no loan spell is going to change that. We’re not loaning these guys out to hone them into superstars, we’re doing it to manage numbers - it doesn’t matter where they go.

Different story if we’re talking about young players who actually have a future here (Howley, Burroughs), but our squad is so small that we need to keep them around.
 
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