Doug on CWR (2 Viewers)

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

I don’t buy into this idea that King is in this for the short term. Owning a Prem team must be somewhat lucrative!

It also becomes a headache. The amount of money needed to stay there will be ridiculous. At the moment he’s got an asset - club and stadium that he can sell at possibly around £75m - looking at the balance sheet he’s roughly put in £25m

he could easily make a significant sum selling now. Of course if he gambles and makes the prem he can make double that.

he strikes me as a man who wants to walk out on a high with next to no personal money put in.

the Batman phrase “you live to see yourself die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain” rings true with football

 

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[Sky Blue Pete]

It also becomes a headache. The amount of money needed to stay there will be ridiculous. At the moment he’s got an asset - club and stadium that he can sell at possibly around £75m - looking at the balance sheet he’s roughly put in £25m

he could easily make a significant sum selling now. Of course if he gambles and makes the prem he can make double that.

he strikes me as a man who wants to walk out on a high with next to no personal money put in.

the Batman phrase “you live to see yourself die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain” rings true with football

I think he or someone has put in nearer to £40m

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

I think he or someone has put in nearer to £40m

Still the company has got to be worth around double that.

I was basing 25m on the losses being roughly about 7m, which we know he’s covering

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Still the company has got to be worth around double that.

I was basing 25m on the losses being roughly about 7m, which we know he’s covering

A big amount will have been paid for the stadium and there’s no knowledge of where the funds came from for that.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

A big amount will have been paid for the stadium and there’s no knowledge of where the funds came from for that.

Isn’t it mortgaged? That’ll be against the club not doug

 

[wingy]

It also becomes a headache. The amount of money needed to stay there will be ridiculous. At the moment he’s got an asset - club and stadium that he can sell at possibly around £75m - looking at the balance sheet he’s roughly put in £25m

he could easily make a significant sum selling now. Of course if he gambles and makes the prem he can make double that.

he strikes me as a man who wants to walk out on a high with next to no personal money put in.

the Batman phrase “you live to see yourself die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain” rings true with football

That final phrase reminds me of someone somewhere something,in realife in real-time right now.

 

[The Philosopher]

Isn’t it mortgaged? That’ll be against the club not doug

The club and the stadium together are obviously worth far more than the sum of their parts.

In corporate terms at this kind of level, where there is an asset to leverage (stadium plus guarantees possibly of Doug’s asset base) money is just a cost: Borrowing 40m might cost 5% per year (£2m).

Conversely, 40m not borrowed and invested / high interest / safe bonds earns 5%.

So if you’ve got 40m, putting it into a stadium with no mortgage costs you about the same as borrowing.

 

[The Philosopher]

Just for fun. Asked AI what CCFC is worth.

Answer:


Here’s a proper, component-by-component “club + players + stadium – debt” view for Coventry City, with sources and a realistic range.

Anchor facts (latest)

• Squad market value (Transfermarkt): €108m (~£93m) for the first team.
• Stadium ownership: Coventry City completed the purchase of the Coventry Building Society Arena from Frasers Group (Aug/Sep 2025). Fee not disclosed publicly.
• Recent club financials: 2023/24 accounts indicate turnover just under £30m and improved profitability; Swiss Ramble analysis notes relatively low debt (about £30m in 23/24) after Doug King converted legacy loans to equity.

What’s it worth “club + players + stadium – debt”?

Because the stadium price wasn’t disclosed, and book values ≠ market values, the sensible way is to give a low/base/high range with explicit assumptions.

Assumptions (you can tweak any of these)

• Players: use Transfermarkt as a proxy for “liquid” market value of contracts.
• Stadium (CBS Arena): triangulate between 2022 distressed sale to Frasers (~£17m) and a healthier 2025 price; use £25–50m range, £35m base. (We avoid the £113m build cost—too historic.)
• Other football assets (brand, training facilities rights/leases, hospitality fit-out, working capital): £5–15m range, £10m base (conservative).
• Debt: use £30m headline financial debt for 23/24; acknowledge movements post-year-end could shift this slightly.

Takeaway: A sensible present-day range is ~£85m–£140m, with a base case ~£108m.


Why this is credible (and what would move it)

• Players: Coventry’s squad is among the Championship’s more valuable; any big outbound deal (or promotion) moves this materially.
• Stadium: the 2025 buy finally internalises matchday/hospitality upside. If the undisclosed purchase price were nearer £50m, the high case wins; if nearer the 2022 distressed benchmark, the low case does.
• Debt: Swiss Ramble’s work (plus the club’s own releases) suggests the balance sheet is much cleaner post-ownership change; if net debt is lower than £30m today, the net value ticks up.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

Just for fun. Asked AI what CCFC is worth.

Answer:


Here’s a proper, component-by-component “club + players + stadium – debt” view for Coventry City, with sources and a realistic range.

Anchor facts (latest)

• Squad market value (Transfermarkt): €108m (~£93m) for the first team.
• Stadium ownership: Coventry City completed the purchase of the Coventry Building Society Arena from Frasers Group (Aug/Sep 2025). Fee not disclosed publicly.
• Recent club financials: 2023/24 accounts indicate turnover just under £30m and improved profitability; Swiss Ramble analysis notes relatively low debt (about £30m in 23/24) after Doug King converted legacy loans to equity.

What’s it worth “club + players + stadium – debt”?

Because the stadium price wasn’t disclosed, and book values ≠ market values, the sensible way is to give a low/base/high range with explicit assumptions.

Assumptions (you can tweak any of these)

• Players: use Transfermarkt as a proxy for “liquid” market value of contracts.
• Stadium (CBS Arena): triangulate between 2022 distressed sale to Frasers (~£17m) and a healthier 2025 price; use £25–50m range, £35m base. (We avoid the £113m build cost—too historic.)
• Other football assets (brand, training facilities rights/leases, hospitality fit-out, working capital): £5–15m range, £10m base (conservative).
• Debt: use £30m headline financial debt for 23/24; acknowledge movements post-year-end could shift this slightly.

Takeaway: A sensible present-day range is ~£85m–£140m, with a base case ~£108m.


Why this is credible (and what would move it)

• Players: Coventry’s squad is among the Championship’s more valuable; any big outbound deal (or promotion) moves this materially.
• Stadium: the 2025 buy finally internalises matchday/hospitality upside. If the undisclosed purchase price were nearer £50m, the high case wins; if nearer the 2022 distressed benchmark, the low case does.
• Debt: Swiss Ramble’s work (plus the club’s own releases) suggests the balance sheet is much cleaner post-ownership change; if net debt is lower than £30m today, the net value ticks up.

What are the options again?

 

[nicksar]

People talk about the Fulham prices, what do the fans pay at Tottenham and Everton's new shiny stadiums, with increased capacity

I have a friend who is a Tottenham season ticket holder and last season he paid £4500 for two season tickets for him and his adult Son, I'm not sure if he's in the most expensive or least expensive part of the stadium tbh.
Very expensive though.