Doug on CWR (4 Viewers)

Mucca Mad Boys said:

I don’t buy into this idea that King is in this for the short term. Owning a Prem team must be somewhat lucrative!

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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:

It also becomes a headache. The amount of money needed to stay there will be ridiculous. At the moment he’s got an asset - club and stadium that he can sell at possibly around £75m - looking at the balance sheet he’s roughly put in £25m

he could easily make a significant sum selling now. Of course if he gambles and makes the prem he can make double that.

he strikes me as a man who wants to walk out on a high with next to no personal money put in.

the Batman phrase “you live to see yourself die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain” rings true with football

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Sky Blue Pete said:

I think he or someone has put in nearer to £40m

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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:

Still the company has got to be worth around double that.

I was basing 25m on the losses being roughly about 7m, which we know he’s covering

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Brighton Sky Blue said:

A big amount will have been paid for the stadium and there’s no knowledge of where the funds came from for that.

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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:

It also becomes a headache. The amount of money needed to stay there will be ridiculous. At the moment he’s got an asset - club and stadium that he can sell at possibly around £75m - looking at the balance sheet he’s roughly put in £25m

he could easily make a significant sum selling now. Of course if he gambles and makes the prem he can make double that.

he strikes me as a man who wants to walk out on a high with next to no personal money put in.

the Batman phrase “you live to see yourself die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain” rings true with football

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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:

Isn’t it mortgaged? That’ll be against the club not doug

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• Squad market value (Transfermarkt): €108m (~£93m) for the first team.
• Stadium ownership: Coventry City completed the purchase of the Coventry Building Society Arena from Frasers Group (Aug/Sep 2025). Fee not disclosed publicly.
• Recent club financials: 2023/24 accounts indicate turnover just under £30m and improved profitability; Swiss Ramble analysis notes relatively low debt (about £30m in 23/24) after Doug King converted legacy loans to equity.

• Players: use Transfermarkt as a proxy for “liquid” market value of contracts.
• Stadium (CBS Arena): triangulate between 2022 distressed sale to Frasers (~£17m) and a healthier 2025 price; use £25–50m range, £35m base. (We avoid the £113m build cost—too historic.)
• Other football assets (brand, training facilities rights/leases, hospitality fit-out, working capital): £5–15m range, £10m base (conservative).
• Debt: use £30m headline financial debt for 23/24; acknowledge movements post-year-end could shift this slightly.

• Players: Coventry’s squad is among the Championship’s more valuable; any big outbound deal (or promotion) moves this materially.
• Stadium: the 2025 buy finally internalises matchday/hospitality upside. If the undisclosed purchase price were nearer £50m, the high case wins; if nearer the 2022 distressed benchmark, the low case does.
• Debt: Swiss Ramble’s work (plus the club’s own releases) suggests the balance sheet is much cleaner post-ownership change; if net debt is lower than £30m today, the net value ticks up.

The Philosopher said:

Just for fun. Asked AI what CCFC is worth.

Answer:


Here’s a proper, component-by-component “club + players + stadium – debt” view for Coventry City, with sources and a realistic range.

Anchor facts (latest)

• Squad market value (Transfermarkt): €108m (~£93m) for the first team.
• Stadium ownership: Coventry City completed the purchase of the Coventry Building Society Arena from Frasers Group (Aug/Sep 2025). Fee not disclosed publicly.
• Recent club financials: 2023/24 accounts indicate turnover just under £30m and improved profitability; Swiss Ramble analysis notes relatively low debt (about £30m in 23/24) after Doug King converted legacy loans to equity.

What’s it worth “club + players + stadium – debt”?

Because the stadium price wasn’t disclosed, and book values ≠ market values, the sensible way is to give a low/base/high range with explicit assumptions.

Assumptions (you can tweak any of these)

• Players: use Transfermarkt as a proxy for “liquid” market value of contracts.
• Stadium (CBS Arena): triangulate between 2022 distressed sale to Frasers (~£17m) and a healthier 2025 price; use £25–50m range, £35m base. (We avoid the £113m build cost—too historic.)
• Other football assets (brand, training facilities rights/leases, hospitality fit-out, working capital): £5–15m range, £10m base (conservative).
• Debt: use £30m headline financial debt for 23/24; acknowledge movements post-year-end could shift this slightly.

Takeaway: A sensible present-day range is ~£85m–£140m, with a base case ~£108m.


Why this is credible (and what would move it)

• Players: Coventry’s squad is among the Championship’s more valuable; any big outbound deal (or promotion) moves this materially.
• Stadium: the 2025 buy finally internalises matchday/hospitality upside. If the undisclosed purchase price were nearer £50m, the high case wins; if nearer the 2022 distressed benchmark, the low case does.
• Debt: Swiss Ramble’s work (plus the club’s own releases) suggests the balance sheet is much cleaner post-ownership change; if net debt is lower than £30m today, the net value ticks up.

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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:

People talk about the Fulham prices, what do the fans pay at Tottenham and Everton's new shiny stadiums, with increased capacity

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